Holset Turbos, PART 2

[sweet97]

No. It's me that's running 30 PSI on pump with a DSMchip that has extended maps for doing such. I love the turbo but need some more tuning and the installation of the JM SMIM I bought. Mark

 

[sweet97]

Glad you got it worked out, Sweet.

You're running a MAFT and 950's with a hx 35/40 combo? Share a simple mod list and most importantly the spoolup characteristics. I still can't decide if I like or hate Holsets. I was hating them until you posted this backing up steves results.

My mods are listed but quickly I have a Buschur stage 3 block-9:1/head-P&P, O-ringed with HKS 272's. 950's and a KEYDIVER chip. MAFT is it fot tuning. Fuel mods, the usual. Spearco 2-221 FMIC. CAI. DNP exhaust manifold-3" back, no cat.
The car was carrying an extra 200lbs. and my MPH was only 112 though I have had 117 with low 12's. This run was just a perfect launch and hit the gears perfectly also though did not use the NLTS. I also do not have the Translator tuned on fine tuning mode yet. I know the tuning is lame but I am so computer iliterate it's not funny, heck I'm using webTV to write this!
I am upgrading my IC piping this winter and adding the intake. If I can become comfortable with what I can learn over the winter about DSMlink I will go that route come spring. 5 more psi would be nice also. Mark
Stapl3 go with loving Holsets. If some experienced guys would go with one who know how to tune well we would see some high 10's easily.

 

[90AWDTalon]

Thanks to some fellow Honda tuners....

HX-40 maps

Any chance they have maps for the HX-35 that you could post?

 

[Ludachris]

This thread was started so that people could see what the Holset turbos are capable of and how owners like them. I'd like to see people who have these turbos fill in their Timeslip and Dyno Sheet info in their vehicle profile and see where they show up on our 1/4 Mile Times list and Dyno List. It would be nice to see what these turbos are actually capable of up next to other turbos.

We just added the ability to post the name of the turbo in your profile to see what turbos people are actually using in the 1/4 Mile and Dyno numbers. Holset turbo owners, let's see those real world numbers.

 

[Morphius]

Any chance they have maps for the HX-35 that you could post?

I'll see what I can find. If you go to the first page of 'part 1', you'll find maps showing the different years of the hy all on one. The HX should be the same as the HY for the pre-2002. I'll have to work on getting something more updated or add the islands to that plot.

 

[90AWDTalon]

I'll see what I can find. If you go to the first page of 'part 1', you'll find maps showing the different years of the hy all on one. The HX should be the same as the HY for the pre-2002. I'll have to work on getting something more updated or add the islands to that plot.

I saw those. The ones you posted for the hx40 were much nicer so I was just hoping there was some hx35 maps like that.

 

[Stapl3]

on pump gas is way too much on a dsm motor... i dont know how you are even running that safely... and if this is on a stock motor.. my very educated dsm advice would to be stop running that much boost on pump. or you WILL be buying a new motor very shortly.

You can run whatever PSI you want on pump so long as your tuning is perfect. Get a clue.

 

[ceedawg]

This thread was started so that people could see what the Holset turbos are capable of and how owners like them. I'd like to see people who have these turbos fill in their Timeslip and Dyno Sheet info in their vehicle profile and see where they show up on our 1/4 Mile Times list and Dyno List. It would be nice to see what these turbos are actually capable of up next to other turbos.

We just added the ability to post the name of the turbo in your profile to see what turbos people are actually using in the 1/4 Mile and Dyno numbers. Holset turbo owners, let's see those real world numbers.

Yes I agree 100%.Let's see some #'s people.I'm anxious to see some of the results people are getting since I invested in one of these turbos.

 

[boostmaniac]

I second That! I've been waiting to see some #'s for a while. I bought a Hx35/40 and wondering if I should go with another turbo. I will post some #'s in about two months when I get back from Iraq. I am going for 550 but I think It'll be more like 475-500 , we'll see....


Eagle/weisco 8.3:1 .40 over
264/272 hks
smim
1000cc precisions
Dsm link
31"x10" x 3.50
full arp's
3" maft
Hx35/40
Innovative wideband
p-n-p head
3" RnR catback
3"apexi d/p
ect....

 

[Steve93Talon]

Hmm, two posts from people who already own Holsets and yet are still waiting to see numbers. What for? You've got the turbo, go make your own numbers already!

(If you'd bothered to read the whole thread, you'd see what we're running on one already)

 

[boostmaniac]

Did you not read the part where I said I was in IRAQ? Try reading the post before making a smart ass remark. And yes I do see what ppl are running already,but I know the turbos can do more than what they are now.

I hope that 289hp is fun!

Justin

 

[Morphius]

Paaaleeeezzzee people!? No, fighting. This thread (and it's part 1) has been really clean and free of pissing matches and negative comments. Keep it that way.

For you 'KNOOBS', please read this ENTIRE thread and the part 1 thread. I realize that not alot of poeple are running these, but those that are have posted track times. Maybe not HP numbers, which seems like alot of you are hung up on. But do the math. They've got track numbers, back out the HP number. Not everyone has a dyno (or the funds) to get WHP numbers.

 

[boostmaniac]

Haha yes I seen you ran an 11sec run,I was messin with ya. Congrats BTW ,I just hope to see some dyno slips within the next few weeks.

I noticed that there are alot of haters on this forum! So cant we all just get along?

 

[sweet97]

Did you not read the part where I said I was in IRAQ? Try reading the post before making a smart ass remark. And yes I do see what ppl are running already,but I know the turbos can do more than what they are now.

I hope that 289hp is fun!

Justin

Justin we are proud of the troops in IRAQ and Steve was not singling anyone out. I am near Syracuse, NY. Today is probably my last day before removing the car for winter. I also have the HX-35/40. I bested my trap with a 117MPH, 11.93 secs. I'm only tuning with a MAFT.
I bought a 50 trim when I was fairly new because that was the thing to have. Well I did not care for it but I am satisfied with the Holset and expect a high 10 next season. I like having something that is not on half of the modded cars on the forum, something that has a lot of untapped potential as shown by Steve and the car he is helping tune. That car will hit a ten for sure with cams and SMIM! Hope to see you and that car with the Holset soon. You won't be disappointed with it, just give it some time. Mark
PS: Steve ran a 12.1x with that 289HP with a 14B. That impresses me! mark

 

[ceedawg]

Hmm, two posts from people who already own Holsets and yet are still waiting to see numbers. What for? You've got the turbo, go make your own numbers already!

(If you'd bothered to read the whole thread, you'd see what we're running on one already)

My motors not built yet my friend.Wow thanx for the intelligent reply!

This thread was started so that people could see what the Holset turbos are capable of and how owners like them. I'd like to see people who have these turbos fill in their Timeslip and Dyno Sheet info in their vehicle profile and see where they show up on our 1/4 Mile Times list and Dyno List. It would be nice to see what these turbos are actually capable of up next to other turbos.

We just added the ability to post the name of the turbo in your profile to see what turbos people are actually using in the 1/4 Mile and Dyno numbers. Holset turbo owners, let's see those real world numbers.

I'll post Luda's request again which many are interested in as well.

 

[coltboostin]

You can run whatever PSI you want on pump so long as your tuning is perfect. Get a clue.

If that were only ture.......

Everyone wuld run 10's on pump.

500whp on pump would be the norm.

30psi 25deg advance on pump.

Shall I continue?

 

[boostmaniac]

we are proud of the troops in IRAQ and Steve was not singling anyone out. I am near Syracuse, NY. Today is probably my last day before removing the car for winter. I also have the HX-35/40. I bested my trap with a 117MPH, 11.93 secs. I'm only tuning with a MAFT.
I bought a 50 trim when I was fairly new because that was the thing to have. Well I did not care for it but I am satisfied with the Holset and expect a high 10 next season. I like having something that is not on half of the modded cars on the forum, something that has a lot of untapped potential as shown by Steve and the car he is helping tune. That car will hit a ten for sure with cams and SMIM! Hope to see you and that car with the Holset soon. You won't be disappointed with it, just give it some time. Mark
PS: Steve ran a 12.1x with that 289HP with a 14B. That impresses me! mark

We all thank you for the support!!
Yeah thats pretty damn fast for 14b.


I am getting so damn tired of waiting to get back to see the power this turbo is gonna put down! Those are some good times and I hope to see you all at some shootouts .

 

[sweet97]

If that were only ture.......

Everyone wuld run 10's on pump.

500whp on pump would be the norm.

30psi 25deg advance on pump.

Shall I continue?

Is there a formula to ballpark my HP? 3500lbs.-11.80 at 117 mph.
500WHP on pump does take a built motor and my Buschur rebuild seems pretty strong. You know Buschur claims to build the best in the industry, built Shepherds motor you know.
I was told the was a guy, DRE I believe was his name who put down over 500awhp, not sure of his times though. I have heard of a couple others also. It will never be the norm because race makes the 500awhp easier. Any info on his set-up around this forum? Mark
OH, "All we are saying is give peace a chance" How about we encourage each other rather than knock?

 

[Steve93Talon]

My motors not built yet my friend.Wow thanx for the intelligent reply!

I'll post Luda's request again which many are interested in as well.

I think some of you are missing my point. All I'm saying is that there are enough people out there who are afraid of something different and would rather bad mouth it than actually try it or pay attention to the real world numbers produced so far. The fact that you've gotten past that point and bought one for yourselves already shows that you're not afraid of something different, yet you still post here that you'd like to see some numbers. I just don't see the logic there.

As for Ludachris' post, check the timeslips section, look for R10Performance. That's my friend Carl whom I've been referring to throughout this thread. He's owned a shop for years, has had an RX7, Buick GN, and countless V8s, but apparently since he's only had a DSM for a few months he's considered a noob here and can't post in this thread until he gets 25 posts - and 10 reputation points - in the newbie forum, so help him get in here already!

 

[Steve93Talon]

Is there a formula to ballpark my HP? 3500lbs.-11.80 at 117 mph.
500WHP on pump does take a built motor and my Buschur rebuild seems pretty strong. You know Buschur claims to build the best in the industry, built Shepherds motor you know.
I was told the was a guy, DRE I believe was his name who put down over 500awhp, not sure of his times though. I have heard of a couple others also. It will never be the norm because race makes the 500awhp easier. Any info on his set-up around this forum? Mark
OH, "All we are saying is give peace a chance" How about we encourage each other rather than knock?

Horsepower calculator: http://www.speedworldmotorplex.com/calc.htm

Buschur hasn't built Shep's engines for like 5 years.

Dre did 500 whp on pump on a custom 50 trim, it's not easy but certainly can be done.

 

[coltboostin]

Horsepower calculator: http://www.speedworldmotorplex.com/calc.htm

Buschur hasn't built Shep's engines for like 5 years.

Dre did 500 whp on pump on a custom 50 trim, it's not easy but certainly can be done.

1)Well, what he said.

2)True in the past, but this season, Shep went to Buschur for the motor. You can verify this with Dave or John.

3)DRE Through caution to the wind. Knock delete, and let er rip. I would not recomend people to do such things. He probablty saw enough knock on those passes to melt 2 sets of stock pistons.

Forged is your friend.

 

[Coup D E'Tat]

If that were only ture.......

Everyone wuld run 10's on pump.

500whp on pump would be the norm.

30psi 25deg advance on pump.

Shall I continue?

What he meant was that PSI is not the limiting factor. In theory, any PSI can be ran as long as the tune is safe.

 

[DSM90AWD]

Dre did 500 whp on pump on a custom 50 trim, it's not easy but certainly can be done.

From what I remember that was AGPs full-Garrett w/.63 exhaust housing <30psi with an AEM locking timing to 11deg. Not typical by any means, as Dre spent countless hours with several different turbo setups/tune to arrive at 505WHP.

A 75% efficient turbo will still produce 350F outlet temps @30psi, so cooling is very important be it FMIC/WI/AI or all the above.

Will be interesting to see just how far the Bullseye housing will take that turbo, as quick spool and total power have historically been inversely related

 

[EclipZ]

would the hx40 work fine if i used my RNR t3 manifold and made a o2 housing for the turbine housing that came with it? i have a 2.4 with tons of mods, plenty of fuel, and big fmic.
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[nanokpsi]

Horsepower calculator: http://www.speedworldmotorplex.com/calc.htm

Buschur hasn't built Shep's engines for like 5 years.

Dre did 500 whp on pump on a custom 50 trim, it's not easy but certainly can be done.

BUschur currently builds Sheps motors. He did starting this season in which the original motor is still in the car. He does have a spare also built by Buschur.

Dre did 500awhp with a 1g long block (built motor), 272s and a magnus SMIM. 30psi dropping to 26 (turbo can't keep up) and an AEM EMS. Different dynos read differently as well. A trap in the high teens is probably in the 370-380whp range.

As far as a t3 manifold bolting up, I didn't think the Holsets had a t3 inlet. However, if you want to run the big holsett hotside you can just have a cutom manifold made (A MUCH better solution to those who actually plan on using a 70+lb/min turbo).