Holset Turbos, PART 6

[turbotalon1g]

Whats wrong with denting teh WP? its not much of a dent since it really goes under it rather that right against it.

I would also worry about that front motor mount, well if you got one.

 

[andy4g63]

It isn't about denting the WP, it is about turbine housing hitting the block. If it is for WP, I guess no one would care much.

 

[matt98eclipse]

tell your buddy its f%$&*ed up n he needs to redo it. that is WAAAY too much of an angle. but i am glad to see someone actually did this rather than dent their water pipe!

He didnt fu*k anthing up it was actually my fault cause i thought it had to be angle that much.

 

[TimG]

He didnt fu*k anthing up it was actually my fault cause i thought it had to be angle that much.

Most of us, if not all of us had to reclock the turbo once it was put into the engine bay. Just make sure that the two teeth for the huge circlip are accessible in the engine bay.

 

[gstryyder]

well, then i'm sorry for pointing your buddy out on this one. we all have had to learn the hard way on certain things...

btw...i wasn't saying it to be a dick... as for whether it is a dent in the water pipe or hitting the block that is the problem isn't the major point i was trying to make it was to point out and give him props for being about the only person/ one of the very few people that even thought about or took the initiative to cut and re-flange the manifold rather than using spacers or denting a waterpipe and all that crap. i have always thought re-angling the flange to be the best and simplest solution to the non-fitting problem... nice to see someone do it. just too bad it turned out how it did. good luck on your second attempt to get the right angle.

i like these damn smiley things too much...

 

[fastfive0]

I just used the spacer on my hx40. Saved soooo much problems and there is still plenty of room between the housing and radiator and housing and water pipe. This is on a 2g though, a 1g might be a different story.

 

[JWoodley]

I've used the spacer plate and I've dented the waterpipe. Of the two, the waterpipe is definitely the least troublesome. The spacer plate required longer studs and two gaskets and could have potentially been impeding exhaust flow.

 

[dsm-onster]

Twice as many turbo gaskets to blow out too.

If one is going to do a spacer, kill 2 birds with one stone. Weld them to a piece of 2" galvanized piping and put a hole in the pipe and weld on a wastegate flange.

 

[GST95]

Twice as many turbo gaskets to blow out too.

If one is going to do a spacer, kill 2 birds with one stone. Weld them to a piece of 2" galvanized piping and put a hole in the pipe and weld on a wastegate flange.

My friend is doing this for his adaptor to put my old wh1c on his conquest, but most dsm guys are needing the spacer at the head instead of at the turbo.

 

[turbotalon1g]

I am sorry if this has been answered, but is an EVO 3 O2 housing a good match for a bolton housing for the HX35?
*edit* I found my answer apparantly with a little porting you can get it to match if not even bigger that the outlet on the BEP bolton housing.

 

[matt98eclipse]

well, then i'm sorry for pointing your buddy out on this one. we all have had to learn the hard way on certain things...

btw...i wasn't saying it to be a dick... as for whether it is a dent in the water pipe or hitting the block that is the problem isn't the major point i was trying to make it was to point out and give him props for being about the only person/ one of the very few people that even thought about or took the initiative to cut and re-flange the manifold rather than using spacers or denting a waterpipe and all that crap. i have always thought re-angling the flange to be the best and simplest solution to the non-fitting problem... nice to see someone do it. just too bad it turned out how it did. good luck on your second attempt to get the right angle.

i like these damn smiley things too much...

Its all good man were all here to help each other

 

[doesitonall4rs]

I am sorry if this has been answered, but is an EVO 3 O2 housing a good match for a bolton housing for the HX35?
*edit* I found my answer apparantly with a little porting you can get it to match if not even bigger that the outlet on the BEP bolton housing.

i have yet to do this to, when i put the o2 housing on i noticed that my evo3 (not ported) is 2.5 inch inlet and the BEP housing on the turbo is 2.75. Unfortunately I didn't have a die grinder with a carbide bit so I couldnt port it it out, but hopefully I will be doing that soon. But the evo3 housing looks like it has plenty of flange on it to expand it out to a 2.75 with out a problem!

one thing i noticed though the diff between 20psi and 25pis is amazing this turbo dosen't really even "wake up" untill about 23psi.

2X! when I went from 15psi to ~21ish i didnt notice nearly as much of a jump in power as i did when i went from 21 to 25. The jump in power was extremely noticeable.

 

[Fiascoxl]

i have yet to do this to, when i put the o2 housing on i noticed that my evo3 (not ported) is 2.5 inch inlet and the BEP housing on the turbo is 2.75. Unfortunately I didn't have a die grinder with a carbide bit so I couldnt port it it out, but hopefully I will be doing that soon. But the evo3 housing looks like it has plenty of flange on it to expand it out to a 2.75 with out a problem!



2X! when I went from 15psi to ~21ish i didnt notice nearly as much of a jump in power as i did when i went from 21 to 25. The jump in power was extremely noticeable.

Im at 15lbs. and the colt is a beast! my 680's are holding me back I cant wait for 1000's and 20+ lbs.

 

[doesitonall4rs]

Im at 15lbs. and the colt is a beast! my 680's are holding me back I cant wait for 1000's and 20+ lbs.

HAHAHA wow man, I was on 550CC injectors and was at about 20psi when my fuel was completely maxed out, but I had meth with a 150psi pump spraying threw a 650cc/min nozzle. Right now I'm at 28 with 780s and meth and I'm running ungodly rich! hahaha.

But 15Psi in a colt that car must move! it weighs nothing! Your going to have a very fun time at 20+ with traction

 

[420a-t]

I have an H1E on a 2g mani and it fits perfectly. I had to dent the waterpipe about 1/4" but thats it for fitment issues on a 2g.

I'll get my POS running within the next week. JMF, H1E, link, built auto, E-85 and meth. I'll get some logs up asap.

 

[T_K]

I'm planning on getting a HX35, but is it still possible to find the BEP housing? I emailed turbotrader and tim's but didn't get any response.

 

[talonDSMerr]

Calling is definitely a better way of getting hold of either of them. Try that tomorrow, they might have gotten a shipment of bolton housings in by now

 

[donniekak]

I to have been trying to source a hx-40 bolt on housing for weeks, actually a month now. I'm always told they will be ready next week. I have tried to build a good street build around the turbo, an 8 blade. I rebuilt a 6-bolt bottom end, and slapped a ported 2g head and intake manifold on it. The rest of my build is built around early spool also. The only turbine housing i can find is a t3 inlet v-band outlet. I wouldn't have a problem running this housing, but i would have used a 1g head and intake and gone for top end. Basically i have a setup built around a piece i can't find. Anyone know where i can find one?

 

[dsmconvict]

How does a 54MM 8blade h1c compare to a 57 trim? I have both turbo's. The 57 trim is a bep bolt on and the h1c has the 18.5cm twin scroll t3 housing. I was thinking about selling my fp race mani, punishment 38mm o2 housing and 57 trim to get an erl t3 manifold and using the holset as it sits. Just an idea im kicking around.

 

[gstryyder]

^^^^ how bout you sell your manifold and turbo, then call up SLS or PR... they can build you a t3 divided manifold for under a grand (probably around 8-900$ to be used with your wastegate... and you will have great spoolup (comparatively), and unlimited top end. way better results than any erl manifold will give you with that turbine housing! for only a few hundred bucks more...lifetime warranties also...

contemplate that one... and tubular manifolds look SICK!

 

[dsmconvict]

Im not the type of person to care much about spool. The car is also gonna be a dd so I'd rather use a cast manifold over a tubular. The spool shouldnt be that bad either way

 

[JWoodley]

I've almost completed my build. Hopefully, I will crank her before this weekend.

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Yes, thats a JMF Drag and Q45 in a 2G engine bay.

 

[kawboy]

..And a stock fuel feed line Joe?

 

[gstryyder]

if you would rather have a cast manifold then tubular its all your taste or preference not mine. if it is about the streetability/durability of a tubular manifold, remember lifetime warranty, and tubulars give good topend.

if it is a daily driver.. i would personally like it to spool before 5000rpm on a dd and its all good if you don't car much about spool... but an extra maybe 1000rpm of spool is pretty significant to me to say.. hmmm... maybe i should?

it is all up to you man, i was just throwing the idea out there. i personally have nothing against the erl. just you are not gonna have nearly as much as you expect going from a non-divided manifold to a very large divided housing. spool will be REALLY bad. it would make a HUGE difference to go divided 2 divided. but i am not gonna try to push you any more. just wanna stress that if you care about being in boost at 4000 rpms rather than spooling at 5000rpms... especially for streetability purposes. you may wanna think a different route. it is a HUGE difference!

plus not only would intial spool be better, but lag, and spool between shifts would be that much better also...

good luck with deciding on your setup though man!

 

[dsmconvict]

Don't get me wrong I'd LOVE to get a divided tubular manifold. I just can't find one in my budget range. I'd still need to get the o2 housing made and figure out the wastegate. I really don't have the $$ to spend on another Synapse wastegate. Like I said I'm kicking the idea around. If its not gonna work too well then I might as well keep the stuff I have now and run it. Always been a holset fan