What Turbo is this? [Merged] Turbo ID Identification

[XiKeiyaZI]

Truly appreciate it.

 

[xcasbonx]

I could use some help identifying either of these turbos.

First one has the following markings, S/N OEM00577 and 409410-50065.

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo163/SHOAFECLIPSE/null-6.jpg

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The other in question has MIM03872 and SE502184 along with a John Deere logo. I was able to locate through google that this was some sort of turbo for a tractor and also came across a designation that this is possibly T04B91 as well?

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo163/SHOAFECLIPSE/null-22.jpg

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo163/SHOAFECLIPSE/null-23.jpg

If anyone can shed light on these and if it would be worth trying to acquire one or go another route I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

 

[JusMX141]

The first is a T04B-something; who knows what compressor or turbine spec. The second is a T3-something; again varies by compressor and turbine spec.

All I can tell you for sure is with a non-gated turbine housing that large and a compressor that small, these units were built for large-displacement, low-boost applications....the exact opposite of a DSM.

 

[xcasbonx]

That's what I was afraid of...well back to the drawing board again. Think I'll just go back to my 14b plan.

 

[Rock2610d]

Ok, so I found 2 MHI turbos. Both appear to be small 16Gs, according to the numbers. 49178-015200 and 49178-05200

The 1 in the first number is very faint and looks to be ground off.

On both turbos the spot where the digits 5 and 2 are, looks ground off and a 5 and 2 stamped on.

Both have 16G impellers......ie not 14b

Are these eBay turbos? They are on two different cars at junk yard. One is a 92 Talon and other is a 95 talon. I know they did not come with 16Gs in 95.

Is it standard to have the stamped portion of the numbers?

I posted this earlier but it was in the wrong spot so I am re posting, why are there grind and stampings on these turbos?

 

[gofer]

There is no "1" there, it's dirt/grease that's stained the housing over the years.

I'm guessing that part of the S/N is stamped since those were the only numbers that changed depending on the compressor wheel they put inside the housing. That way they only had to cast one compressor housing (casting the numbers that remained the same too) then stamped it after it was machined for it's specific compressor wheel.

Sorry Jus, taking your thunder even if it isn't 100% correct.

Ok, so I found 2 MHI turbos. Both appear to be small 16Gs, according to the numbers. 49178-015200 and 49178-05200

The 1 in the first number is very faint and looks to be ground off.

On both turbos the spot where the digits 5 and 2 are, looks ground off and a 5 and 2 stamped on.

Both have 16G impellers......ie not 14b

Are these eBay turbos? They are on two different cars at junk yard. One is a 92 Talon and other is a 95 talon. I know they did not come with 16Gs in 95.

Is it standard to have the stamped portion of the numbers?

I posted this earlier but it was in the wrong spot so I am re posting, why are there grind and stampings on these turbos?

 

[Rock2610d]

Thank you....I just want to make sure its authentic as I may be putting it up for sale here. I do not want to sell something that is not what it is supposed to be.

 

[gofer]

eBay 16g's are very easily spotted.

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[JusMX141]

Sorry Jus, taking your thunder even if it isn't 100% correct.

You're slow- I already answered it in the first thread: http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-thread-graveyard/467432-turbo-id-issues.html

 

[thearkatek]

I found a turbo for sale but it has been shaved. Buddy who is selling it doesn't know what it is as he got it in a trade. I was wondering if anyone could identify it.

Justin, I'm looking at you....

brand new polished turbo - Moncton Engine, Engine Parts For Sale - Kijiji Moncton Canada.

 

[fwdmaster]

The turbo looks like a Bullseye turbo

 

[thearkatek]

I was thinking that too... I might swing by his place and take a look. If he'd give it to me for 150 I'd take a chance

He's sending me more pictures tonight so I'll upload them on here when I get them.

 

[JusMX141]

Bullseye T04B V-Trim. Lag of a HX40 with the airflow of a 16G/20G; weak factory thrust system and surges above 20psi.

 

[thearkatek]

oh wow really? So in other words - a waste of money!

Thx Justin, after some research I'm not willing to spend time and money to downgrade from my 16g to that

 

[JusMX141]

Not necessarily a waste- any new turbo for $200 is a deal. It would be great for a FWD car looking for 20G-like airflow at 20psi or less with a smoother torque curve than a 20G for better traction.

 

[thearkatek]

Can you confirm the turbo with these pictures? I appreciate it!

 

[Boosted6]

I just purchased a 1991 tsi awd auto. This will be my wife's car since she likes to drive my car all the time and doesn't like her new optima(???). Well before I cut the car loose to her I decided to address a few oil leaks and do the timing/water pump as preventive maintenance. Long story short, the turbo that the car came with seems like a small 50trim of sorts, but I do not find any info on it whatsoever. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I want to go dyno tune it and would like to know the lbs/mi for it.


The turbo only has 1 plaque and reads:

Garrett japan

70077-11

GI 6006-j

 

[Mark4g63t]

pics?

 

[Boosted6]

I'll be back Monday and snap some pics for ya.

 

[Boosted6]

Here's a few pics:

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[JusMX141]

SBR GT11; a bolt-on turbo based around an older Garrett GT3071R. Slightly more-potent than a 20G but not quite the performance of a T04E50 you were assuming.

The compressor cover and turbine housing are cast by Kinetic, then they install a ball-bearing GT cartridge of a few different sizes to make up the GT11 (3071), GT12 (3076), GT13 (3076 w/ 60-1 compressor) and GT14 (GT3082) series.

 

[Boosted6]

Oh cool, so this is a ball bearing turbo? Can it support 350-375whp?

 

[Rock2610d]

I have already posted the compressor side for the s16G? turbo that I am keeping. I stated previously : "Ok, so I found 2 MHI turbos. Both appear to be small 16Gs, according to the numbers. 49178-015200 and 49178-05200

The 1 in the first number is very faint and looks to be ground off.

On both turbos the spot where the digits 5 and 2 are, looks ground off and a 5 and 2 stamped on."

In attached photo the "1" is clearly visible....I have put a yellow rectangle around it.

The issue I have is the turbine housing. It looks to be a EVO 3 turbine housing. Number is 78-13700. So, since this came off a 1995 Eagle Talon I am wondering:

1) is this really a s16G with a EVO 3 turbine housing?


Is the only way to determine to take off the compressor housing and measure the impeller?

I ask because if it "was" a s16G and someone upgraded the turbine housing they could have upgraded the compressor housing and impeller. A EVO 3 turbo will be too big for what I want. I will have to sell this.

 

[94awdcoupe]

Oh cool, so this is a ball bearing turbo? Can it support 350-375whp?

the turbo is the gt13 (7 blade compressor)
easilly capable of 450 whp. spools nice too. had a friend with one a few years back. was making 330whp with 20 psi and zero tuning. stock ecu, with evo 8 maf and 720 injectors. the fuel curve was spot on with nothing to adjust tune with. and I was very impressed with the spool when mated to a cyclone intake mani.

 

[JusMX141]

Oh cool, so this is a ball bearing turbo? Can it support 350-375whp?

Correct.

I have already posted the compressor side for the s16G? turbo that I am keeping. I stated previously : "Ok, so I found 2 MHI turbos. Both appear to be small 16Gs, according to the numbers. 49178-015200 and 49178-05200

The 1 in the first number is very faint and looks to be ground off.

That's the way all of them are. They start with what used to be a Big 16G cover (49178-01420) and re-number it to reflect the smaller compressor wheel.

The issue I have is the turbine housing. It looks to be a EVO 3 turbine housing. Number is 78-13700. So, since this came off a 1995 Eagle Talon I am wondering:

1) is this really a s16G with a EVO 3 turbine housing?

Yes.

Is the only way to determine to take off the compressor housing and measure the impeller?

Yes.

I ask because if it "was" a s16G and someone upgraded the turbine housing they could have upgraded the compressor housing and impeller. A EVO 3 turbo will be too big for what I want. I will have to sell this.

I highly doubt someone would go through the work to upgrade a Small 16G to an Evo III when they could just buy an Evo III and be done. Your housing likely got swapped and you're worrying too much.

the turbo is the gt13 (7 blade compressor)

I beg to differ. There are 7-blade versions of the 3071, 3076, and then obviously the T04S 60-1. He gave the factory number (700177-11), it's a GT11...though I do stand corrected, it's still based on the larger 3076R turbine as noted by this Garrett listing with all of the part numbers and their corresponding compressor specs: Garrett Master Turbo list