The PTE 6262 Turbo Thread

[e85_4g63]

I'm sure some of you have noticed that I post often in regaurds to the PTE 6262. I figured since those threads are mixed with results and opinions, that maybe I would start a thread to try and combine them all. Not sure how much interest there is specifically to the PTE 6262 here on tuners, but I am a fan. It seems like the general thought is that the T3 .82 A/R turbine housing is enough to max out the turbo. Although PTE offers several housings for this turbo, there don't seem to be any results regaurding the Mitsu bolt on housing, or the .58 and .68 T4 housings. Please feel free to post your results (good or bad) here. I'm going to send a PM to several 6262 users requesting they add there experiences here also. Thanks.

To start off with (since my car isn't running), Kim (aka girlintheblackcar) made 602awhp on her 6262 when she had it.

http://youtu.be/sASiCtYN6W0

Here are the few 6262 specific threads I've found on here thus far:

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/hangout/404994-pte-6262-question.html

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/turbo-system-tech/312467-pte-6262-a.html

 

[e85_4g63]

Does anyone have a 6262 with the bolt on or T4 housings? All the results I can find are using either the .63 or .82 A/R T3 turbine housings. Would anyone be interested in seeing bolt on or T4 housing results?

 

[____Kurt____]

Well I still have yet to get my turbo but I have changed the configuration I want to run it in. I originally wanted a T3 .82 v-band out to a v-band in/out .82 ar. This will be a BB OFH fed 6262. I have hear nothing but great things about the ball bearing version so that is the option I'm choosing, plus let spool time is sweet.

 

[Archer Fabrications]

Well I still have yet to get my turbo but I have changed the configuration I want to run it in. I originally wanted a T3 .82 v-band out to a v-band in/out .82 ar. This will be a BB OFH fed 6262. I have hear nothing but great things about the ball bearing version so that is the option I'm choosing, plus let spool time is sweet.

you shouldent feed a Ballbearing turbo from the OFH... i dont care what PTE says.. they are idiots. feed from the head with .030 restriction

im running a 6152 DBB so im a small step below you, fed from the head works great for me.

 

[Jon91TSi]

I'm sure some of you have noticed that I post often in regaurds to the PTE 6262. I figured since those threads are mixed with results and opinions, that maybe I would start a thread to try and combine them all. Not sure how much interest there is specifically to the PTE 6262 here on tuners, but I am a fan. It seems like the general thought is that the T3 .82 A/R turbine housing is enough to max out the turbo. Although PTE offers several housings for this turbo, there don't seem to be any results regaurding the Mitsu bolt on housing, or the .58 and .68 T4 housings. Please feel free to post your results (good or bad) here. I'm going to send a PM to several 6262 users requesting they add there experiences here also. Thanks.

To start off with (since my car isn't running), Kim (aka girlintheblackcar) made 602awhp on her 6262 when she had it.

Girl in the Black Car 602hp PTE 6262 - YouTube

Here are the few 6262 specific threads I've found on here thus far:

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/hangout/404994-pte-6262-question.html

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/turbo-system-tech/312467-pte-6262-a.html

You really love the 6262 don't you????

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[secongendsm]

I was still running the evo maf in that video. I'm sure that turbo had more in it on SD.

 

[SvarO]

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[____Kurt____]

you shouldent feed a Ballbearing turbo from the OFH... i dont care what PTE says.. they are idiots. feed from the head with .030 restriction

im running a 6152 DBB so im a small step below you, fed from the head works great for me.

I talked to PTE and they said if I feed it any other way than they suggest and if anything happens they arent covering it. If I run it the way they suggest and something happens they will cover it. I'll take my chances and see if they don't back there word. Regardless if anything does happen I will be switching to a Borg Warner S362 or s366.
I will keep your suggestion in my back pocket tho.

 

[e85_4g63]

Keep chiming in guys! Where are all the "bolt on housing" users?

 

[Archer Fabrications]

I talked to PTE and they said if I feed it any other way than they suggest and if anything happens they arent covering it. If I run it the way they suggest and something happens they will cover it. I'll take my chances and see if they don't back there word. Regardless if anything does happen I will be switching to a Borg Warner S362 or s366.
I will keep your suggestion in my back pocket tho.

in that case yes feed it from where they tell you, although PTE are idiots and you SHOULD feed from the head. its always good to go by the warranty. PTE journal bearing turbos tend to go quick as well as BB turbos fed from the OFH. just my 2 cents, and justin im sure would agree

 

[____Kurt____]

Well tax returns were just enough to finally get the turbo and the flanges. This is the first time I'm really getting to examine one of these things and I'm impressed. A slight breeze gets the blades spinning and that compressor wheel is sweet looking. I'm waiting on my JMF top mount manifold and for my engine to be disasembled and cleaned for me to mount this thing. For now it's eye candy.

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[e85_4g63]

Good choice with the vband in/out housing. Anyone else?

 

[Jon91TSi]

Just got my car out this past weekend, re-tuning at 35psi on E85.

 

[TjPhillips36]

in that case yes feed it from where they tell you, although PTE are idiots and you SHOULD feed from the head. its always good to go by the warranty. PTE journal bearing turbos tend to go quick as well as BB turbos fed from the OFH. just my 2 cents, and justin im sure would agree

From what I have read on any 4G63 powered car, especially with a ball bearing turbo it should be fed from the OFH with a properly sized restricter. The problem is for example when you are running 7k rpm and then shift say into neutral and the oil pressure drops completely in the head. The turbo is still spinning at 10k+ rpm and is starved for oil which obviously causes the bearings to prematurely wear and potentially fail.

The problem with running from the OFH is the pressure can overrun the drain and cause damage to the turbo also, which is why you have to run a restricter before the turbo, but oil pressure will always be there.

I know lots of people that have ran it either way however with success. I would do whatever you feel comfortable with, and in this situation I would run from the OFH just due to warranty requirements.

 

[____Kurt____]

From what I have read on any 4G63 powered car, especially with a ball bearing turbo it should be fed from the OFH with a properly sized restricter. The problem is for example when you are running 7k rpm and then shift say into neutral and the oil pressure drops completely in the head. The turbo is still spinning at 10k+ rpm and is starved for oil which obviously causes the bearings to prematurely wear and potentially fail.

The problem with running from the OFH is the pressure can overrun the drain and cause damage to the turbo also, which is why you have to run a restricter before the turbo, but oil pressure will always be there.

I know lots of people that have ran it either way however with success. I would do whatever you feel comfortable with, and in this situation I would run from the OFH just due to warranty requirements.

Good post
I ordered my turbo from ExtremePSI and they digested I also run an online Earl filter with it. They told me that the filter can catch a lot more debris before clogging than the restrictor and you should clean it every oil change. So OFH and a pre filter is what I will be running.

 

[jdsoza]

From what I have read on any 4G63 powered car, especially with a ball bearing turbo it should be fed from the OFH with a properly sized restricter. The problem is for example when you are running 7k rpm and then shift say into neutral and the oil pressure drops completely in the head. The turbo is still spinning at 10k+ rpm and is starved for oil which obviously causes the bearings to prematurely wear and potentially fail.

I donkt know about you, but if my turbo was only spinning 10K rpm then id be a little upset, at least because turbos can spin up to 100K RPM . Im just messing with you but Im new to all the lingo of s fmls and so could you explain to me what the OFH is?

 

[4g63t]

I have the 6262 with the t4 .58 housing. It has decent spool. I am going to dyno tune after I get it back. I sent it to pte last week for a rebuild and am waiting to hear from them. What would you suggest for oil pressure? Pretty sure I run way too much for the jb turbo off the OFH. Should I run it from the head or OFH Just want to make it last more than 3k this time.. any thoughts?

I donkt know about you, but if my turbo was only spinning 10K rpm then id be a little upset, at least because turbos can spin up to 100K RPM . Im just messing with you but Im new to all the lingo of s fmls and so could you explain to me what the OFH is?

Oil filter housing.

 

[____Kurt____]

Ok so I was looking at the oil feed lines and realized the oil feed line kit was suppose to include the male-male fitting from the turbo to the line, and it wasn't there. So I called ExtremePSI and they sent me a 1/8th - 4an. I tried screwing it in and It only went about 3/4 and stopped. I understand they are pipe threads and they do taper a bit but how far it the fitting suppose to go in? I just don't want to start wrenching on it and #### up the threads and put some metal shavings into the turbo. I hope this makes sense haha.

 

[turboglenn]

3/4the way is plenty. (it sounds like you're talking about the restrictor though as that's where all of them are on the PTE turbos' i've dealt with)

MY PTE 6776 has the restrictor that PTE includes with it and it probably only screws about half way in. I've removed it for the sake of cleaning up the CHRA and building the lines i used to oil it but usually PTE turbos have the restrictor already in the turbo and a dab of paint where the threads meet up so that they can tell if it's been removed in order to base their judgement on a warranty claim. If yours is a PTE unit you might want to call them about that just in case you ever need to send it into them for service and hope to get some of it covered by them under warranty.

I can attest to how easily the restrictor clogs, if it weren't for the fact that I pull the resturn line and test the flow from the turbo after any job around it's lines, I would have had a failure as my restrictor clogged up fromsomething that was so tiny that i could barely even pull it out of the rag's threads that i blew it into when cleaning the restrictor. I had done an oil line replacement and there must have been a small piece of the plastic from the SS braided PTFE line that got into the restrictor and clogged it. I started the car and let it idle for probably 15-20 seconds and not a drop of oil came out, pulled and cleaned it up and it was flowing properly again. I suggest flushing the line after it's hooked up to the head by either running the oil pump with a drill or cranking the engine with the plugs removed just to be sure there's nothing that can get into the restrictor fitting and clog it, believe me it barely takes a spec to stop all oil flow completely

 

[____Kurt____]

Thanks a lot Glenn for the reply, but I just read over my post and I seemed to not explain the situation fully. When trying to install the male-male fitting by HAND, it only turns about 3/4 of a full turn. Not 3/4 of the threads in. I haven't taken a wrench to it yet because I don't want to force it if it's wrong threads. I will give PTE a call soon and post what I find out.

 

[turboglenn]

The threads on them seem weird like that It was a PITA starting mine after taking it out, and it was the one PTE privided, I would say it's probably normal, I had to pull the turbo off to get mine back in after removing it because it didn't want to thread in and i had to start it just right and then get on it with a wrench as well.. Call PTE to make sure what you have is correct, but i doubt you're doing anything wrong. I was cursingthem for using the "wrong thread" on the fitting on my 67mm turbo.

 

[keltalon]

Well tax returns were just enough to finally get the turbo and the flanges. This is the first time I'm really getting to examine one of these things and I'm impressed. A slight breeze gets the blades spinning and that compressor wheel is sweet looking. I'm waiting on my JMF top mount manifold and for my engine to be disasembled and cleaned for me to mount this thing. For now it's eye candy.

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That thing is just beautiful absolutely breath-taking

 

[____Kurt____]

So I called PTE yesterday and told them the situation an they said that the restrictor that is factory installed has 1/8 pipe threads and that the fitting should go in but will tighten up because pipe threads are tapered. There suggestion was to call ExtremePSI and make sure it it the correct fitting. That being said, I'm just going to compare it to some 1/8 pipe threads on something else before I wrench it in there.

That thing is just beautiful absolutely breath-taking

I definitely agree with you. My friend was over my house this weekend and he never held a BB turbo before. He currently has a 20g in his car. I gave it to him to check it out and he told me to keep it away from him because he doesn't have the money for it

 

[keltalon]

So I called PTE yesterday and told them the situation an they said that the restrictor that is factory installed has 1/8 pipe threads and that the fitting should go in but will tighten up because pipe threads are tapered. There suggestion was to call ExtremePSI and make sure it it the correct fitting. That being said, I'm just going to compare it to some 1/8 pipe threads on something else before I wrench it in there.

I definitely agree with you. My friend was over my house this weekend and he never held a BB turbo before. He currently has a 20g in his car. I gave it to him to check it out and he told me to keep it away from him because he doesn't have the money for it

Thats hilarious.

 

[4g63t]

Just got my 6262 back from PTE. 320.00 for a full rebuild!! Its jb though. Can't beat that!. They even called and told me exactly what they found and everything. Let the tuning began.