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Hell yeah man. Glad to hear. I love e85 so much haha

It's honestly great, I'm glad I finally get to play with it.


Unrelated: But my new inner tie rods came with some..unique...tie rod clamps. They're like a fusion of the traditional CV boot clamp that you squeeze, and a metal zip tie. From everything I've researched metal zip ties are usually smooth. This one has slots in it, just like a worm clamp, but the head is similar to a plastic zip tie. Curious how this will go. :p
 
USPS decided I can have one of the three things they lost, and this came in today.

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Yay! Boy this thing is dirty and has a little surface rust. Let’s fix that shall we?

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Ah. Much better. OEM dust shields on and ready to receive those new bearings. Threads all chased and looking pretty. Now you’re ready for your new home.
 
Waiting on my tie rod boots so progress is at a halt. Plus it’s 80* here and humid AF. I despise living here, man. Fires of hades for 11 months out of the year and the one cold month you get is rainy so you can’t even enjoy the cold weather.

Anyway, I got the rear wheel bearings all assembled and the hubs pressed in nice and neat. Everything torqued to spec and ready to go for whenever I feel up to putting the rear brakes and wheels on.

I also bought one of these things on Facebook.

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My cap has long had the little anchor broken off and saw a dude on FB advertising one of these pieces. At first it was only a Mitsubishi symbol but I reached out and asked if he could make one with an eagle symbol. He obliged and that’s the finished product. Very pleased with fitment and how it looks too. Was only like $25 too I think.
 
Waiting on my tie rod boots so progress is at a halt. Plus it’s 80* here and humid AF. I despise living here, man. Fires of hades for 11 months out of the year and the one cold month you get is rainy so you can’t even enjoy the cold weather.

Anyway, I got the rear wheel bearings all assembled and the hubs pressed in nice and neat. Everything torqued to spec and ready to go for whenever I feel up to putting the rear brakes and wheels on.

I also bought one of these things on Facebook.

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My cap has long had the little anchor broken off and saw a dude on FB advertising one of these pieces. At first it was only a Mitsubishi symbol but I reached out and asked if he could make one with an eagle symbol. He obliged and that’s the finished product. Very pleased with fitment and how it looks too. Was only like $25 too I think.
That's pretty neat.

I just bought a AutoZone special that had an anchor LOL
 
That's pretty neat.

I just bought a AutoZone special that had an anchor LOL

Honestly I’ll end up doing that too, but I just wanted this. It’s the inner child’s ricer that lives in me.
 
Waiting on my tie rod boots so progress is at a halt. Plus it’s 80* here and humid AF. I despise living here, man. Fires of hades for 11 months out of the year and the one cold month you get is rainy so you can’t even enjoy the cold weather.
I’ll take this all day. Honesty this has been a great few months of weather for once here. It’s what’s peaking its head around the very near corner I’m dreading, like normal.
Could have a blizzard dump another foot of snow on you like my parents just had in Maine. Be thankful, for now. :cool:
 
I’ll take this all day. Honesty this has been a great few months of weather for once here. It’s what’s peaking its head around the very near corner I’m dreading, like normal.
Could have a blizzard dump another foot of snow on you like my parents just had in Maine. Be thankful, for now. :cool:


The only thing I didn't like about the snow, is I had to work through it and couldn't enjoy it. I adore snow. I worked in snow and ice removal in Denver and was quite akin to happier than a pig in mud. Lol.
 
Tie rod boots came today. I work until Friday and this weekend is busy but hopefully I can still knock out the work.

List is:

Paint front + rear calipers
Swap rear calipers to new ones.
Assemble rear brakes + bleed brakes
Install front tie rods(inner and outer, both sides)
Recheck torque specs.
Assemble front brakes
Install washer behind CV axle nuts. Torque to spec.
Reinstall wheels.
Install new dipstick. Curse a lot.
Dynamat trunk floor.
Remove ignition lock cylinder housing
Install new lock cylinder housing
Swap hatch from parts talon on to new talon. Install all rear wiper related things.
Lower car.
Drive it, cross fingers and hope sound is gone and I didn’t screw anything up.


I think that’s about it. I got all my parts here to actually do all these things. Now I need free time and some motivation and some uncharacteristically cool days.


Not on the list but eventually what needs to be done:

Install A/C compressor. Make sure filled with proper oil.
Install Compressor bracket and belt.
Install new dryer.
Install new o rings on entire system.
Vacuum system. Check for leaks.
Charge with either computer duster cans or R134a conversion.


After that, car will be done. A scary thought.
 
This build thread is becoming a forum of it’s own.

It has definitely spawned a few other whole threads because of conversation that goes on here. Kinda proud of that.


But yeah. If I could I’d condense the thread but hey. Here we are.
 
Rear brakes are assembled now. New calipers went on easy peasy, as if they wanted to live there. E-Brake is properly hooked up. I ended up not painting them as I'm running a little low on moolah. I can always paint them later with them still on the car. I'll get the roll on kit to make it easy.


But, that's the rear done. From here just need to do the front end. I started the car today and ugh, this thing hates life after sitting for awhile. How quickly does E85 in a tank become a problem if the car sits? Is it like..a matter of months, or is its shelf life like a week?
 
Swap hatch from parts talon on to new talon.
When you get to this, it need some notes/tips to do the same. A tree limb crashed my 90 Laser hatch glass and I have a parts cars. :thumb:
From your list, you are a busy man!
 
When you get to this, it need some notes/tips to do the same. A tree limb crashed my 90 Laser hatch glass and I have a parts cars. :thumb:
From your list, you are a busy man!


For sure! I’ll try to take pictures and document it well. I like having a rear wiper and this one is deleted. So, yeah!
 
How quickly does E85 in a tank become a problem if the car sits? Is it like..a matter of months, or is its shelf life like a week?
That really depends. As you know, ethanol is the primary cause of gasoline expiration. Normal E10 lasts a while longer during stagnation, but how long has it been since you added fresh fuel? A couple months won't ruin it. 6 months really oxidizes and evaporates E85. But can still be usable depending on the tune and other factors like humidity and pressure seal of the fuel system. Point is, I don't think your car has sat for long enough for the fuel to lose combustability. Unless it's been longer than I think since you fueled it up.
 
That really depends. As you know, ethanol is the primary cause of gasoline expiration. Normal E10 lasts a while longer during stagnation, but how long has it been since you added fresh fuel? A couple months won't ruin it. 6 months really oxidizes and evaporates E85. But can still be usable depending on the tune and other factors like humidity and pressure seal of the fuel system. Point is, I don't think your car has sat for long enough for the fuel to lose combustability. Unless it's been longer than I think since you fueled it up.


It's only been a couple weeks max. I'm just paranoid. Lol.
 
Finally yanked the head off of this parts talon. Found the interesting stuff by the boat loads.

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Someone blew the SHIT out of this head gasket. Cylinder 1 is the most egregious as you can see the clear channel between the cylinder and coolant passage. But all the other cylinders just look at their fire rings.


Also discovered these are non turbo pistons. Might explain why the HG absolutely obliterated itself. The cylinders chock full of ATF made me laugh.

But yeah this car was kinda a bust. The engine is stock and blown, cams are stock, the head has two bent valves. The 14B turbo I thought had no shaft play is just REALLY locked up. Lol. At this point I think the only valuable thing from the car is the transmission and some various little interior parts. Possibly the wheels too.

But yeah. Next I’ll drop the oil pan and check the bottom end carnage. Very curious and anxious now to dig further into the transmission too.
 
I'm getting so tired of going to fix things on this car and breaking shit or finding shit broken to the point where the car is down for weeks.
Hell, you’re still way early in the stages of DSM grief my guy. You wanna drive the car? Bruh, I’ve brainwashed myself into leaving the car in the garage more often than not because it can’t break if it doesn’t get driven...Then what if I told you it has literally broken itself just sitting in the garage? Just wait until you experience the mind f*** of that situation.

Acceptance isn’t when you stop being upset—it’s when the car can’t hurt you anymore because you’ve already died inside. Keep wrenching on this thing; you'll get there soon enough.
 
Hell, you’re still way early in the stages of DSM grief my guy. You wanna drive the car? Bruh, I’ve brainwashed myself into leaving the car in the garage more often than not because it can’t break if it doesn’t get driven...Then what if I told you it has literally broken itself just sitting in the garage? Just wait until you experience the mind f*** of that situation.

Acceptance isn’t when you stop being upset—it’s when the car can’t hurt you anymore because you’ve already died inside. Keep wrenching on this thing; you'll get there soon enough.


Appreciate it brotha'. Your builds are always immaculate so the encouragement means a lot!


And the breaking itself in the garage...I don't know why, I haven't experienced that myself, but I felt that in my soul. It better f'ing not. ROFL
 
Acceptance isn’t when you stop being upset—it’s when the car can’t hurt you anymore because you’ve already died inside. Keep wrenching on this thing; you'll get there soon enough.
Laughed hard at on this. "already died inside" - Yeah feels like that sometimes.
 
Finally yanked the head off of this parts talon. Found the interesting stuff by the boat loads.

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Someone blew the SHIT out of this head gasket. Cylinder 1 is the most egregious as you can see the clear channel between the cylinder and coolant passage. But all the other cylinders just look at their fire rings.


Also discovered these are non turbo pistons. Might explain why the HG absolutely obliterated itself. The cylinders chock full of ATF made me laugh.

But yeah this car was kinda a bust. The engine is stock and blown, cams are stock, the head has two bent valves. The 14B turbo I thought had no shaft play is just REALLY locked up. Lol. At this point I think the only valuable thing from the car is the transmission and some various little interior parts. Possibly the wheels too.

But yeah. Next I’ll drop the oil pan and check the bottom end carnage. Very curious and anxious now to dig further into the transmission too.

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I'm on the fence right now on whether to switch to e85 or stay with 91. If my turbo isn't big enough to take full advantage is it even worth the switch?

My car just sits in the garage and springs leaks left and right and it hasn't really been driven at all. It's pretty sad when I find more joy wrenching and making it look good over driving these days. Maybe because the anger and frustration has been long gone for years now. I'll be a guys punching bag if you ever need one.
 
Finally yanked the head off of this parts talon. Found the interesting stuff by the boat loads.

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Someone blew the SHIT out of this head gasket. Cylinder 1 is the most egregious as you can see the clear channel between the cylinder and coolant passage. But all the other cylinders just look at their fire rings.


Also discovered these are non turbo pistons. Might explain why the HG absolutely obliterated itself. The cylinders chock full of ATF made me laugh.

But yeah this car was kinda a bust. The engine is stock and blown, cams are stock, the head has two bent valves. The 14B turbo I thought had no shaft play is just REALLY locked up. Lol. At this point I think the only valuable thing from the car is the transmission and some various little interior parts. Possibly the wheels too.

But yeah. Next I’ll drop the oil pan and check the bottom end carnage. Very curious and anxious now to dig further into the transmission too.

How much timing? Yes.

Lol seriously, I put 42 psi through one of those gaskets and it didn't push that much.
 
I'm on the fence right now on whether to switch to e85 or stay with 91. If my turbo isn't big enough to take full advantage is it even worth the switch?

My car just sits in the garage and springs leaks left and right and it hasn't really been driven at all. It's pretty sad when I find more joy wrenching and making it look good over driving these days. Maybe because the anger and frustration has been long gone for years now. I'll be a guys punching bag if you ever need one.
You get more bottom end power with E85 - not just top end. The lack of knock provides for a really different tuning experience - There is a learning curve, but nothing you can't handle. There is a new cold start behavior - it cranks longer before it finally catches on. After the initial warmup, it starts like normal gasoline. The only other thing to note is the miles per gallon is quite a bit less. If driving range is important, you should look at the difference, cause E85 is harder to find.

You can always switch back.
 
You get more bottom end power with E85 - not just top end. The lack of knock provides for a really different tuning experience - There is a learning curve, but nothing you can't handle. There is a new cold start behavior - it cranks longer before it finally catches on. After the initial warmup, it starts like normal gasoline. The only other thing to note is the miles per gallon is quite a bit less. If driving range is important, you should look at the difference, cause E85 is harder to find.

You can always switch back.
So the only real draw backs are availability and mpg? So if a guy were running a 16g, would it still be worth it to you? This is the last big hurdle I'm trying to overcome at the moment.
 
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