anyone else have lower honeycomb problems? [Merged 10-6]

[wishIhadaturbo]

I can't be the first person that has done this. I busted out both honeycombs in my MAF. Does anybody sell replacements ? Or have an idea about what I should do. The car is idleing very rough now and misses whenever I am not accelerating.

Will

 

[98RedGs]

http://www.vfaq.com/mods/filter-print.html
Removal


http://www.vfaq.com/mods/MAFhack.html
hacking

 

[Auladan]

Thanks a million. Has anyone noticed any gains with this? And, has anyone noticed anything detrimental after removing the lower honeycomb?

 

[91TSi FWD]

I took the lower honeycomb out of mine and noticed it had a louder spool. I also removed the silencer, which probably made the most difference. Keep your honeycomb incase you do have problems, some people have had idle surge and found they run lean, I havn't had this problem though.

Here's another site:
http://www.geocities.com/awd92gsx/mafmod.html

 

[n0va91TSI]

I just got my 91 TSI AWD and have done the free mods minus the lower honeycomb removal.

My car is stock and I heard it will wreck your idle.

Is this True??

 

[herovueboi]

i did the same thing, if you stll have it, put it back in...pronto!

 

[n0va91TSI]

so it is bad? Mine is still in BTW. Im making sure to ask around before breaking an expensive sensor

 

[boostboyike1]

DONT TAKE IT OUT!i bought my car not knowing it was already gone and i can never get it 2 idle right and now im stuck buyin new one...

 

[RipperXX]

Lission to these guys, the only reasion to do this mod is if your an idiot, and you did something like install 550cc injectors with NO MEANS of controling them or a higher flow and pressure fuel pump, this will help get the A/F mix CLOSER to what it should be, but still rich.


So by doing this to a stock car, it will make it run leaner. Which may give you a bit more power at stock boost, but turn it up and it spells knock/detonation.

 

[n0va91TSI]

I figured it would cause a lean A/F ratio. Thanks guys I'll leave it alone.

 

[boostboyike1]

actually mines causing it 2 run rich..some people say lean some people say rich but thats how mine runs

 

[ARTSUPRA]

ok i will put mine back

 

[5150DSM]

Ripper is pretty much right... There really is no reason to do the mod in question to a stock car. However, when you are able to correctly add more fuel(fuel pump, AFPR, larger injectors, fuel pressure gauge)and safely turn up your boost; this is a good modification to free up a little extra airflow. Read the VFAQ, it can answer most of your initial questions all at one time. Good Luck!
http://www.vfaq.com

 

[goonie]

hi guys
just purchassed a 3 inch gm maf
i was wondering if i should remove the honey comb or just let it stay in
does some one drive with the honeycomb removed?
can you notice the difference?
thanks.

 

[ImportWarrior]

i would not remove that. it flows so much better than a stock mas, i dont think it would be necessary. just my ¢.02

 

[UW95GST]

Originally posted by goonie
hi guys
just purchassed a 3 inch gm maf
i was wondering if i should remove the honey comb or just let it stay in
does some one drive with the honeycomb removed?
can you notice the difference?
thanks.

my honeycomb has banged up so I removed it, I haven't had any problems.

 

[goonie]

Originally posted by UW95GST
my honeycomb has banged up so I removed it, I haven't had any problems.

did you noticed any difference in performance when you took it out?
thanks any way

 

[GSXlaunch]

I went to remove the lower honeycomb on the mass off my 90 GSX. I had read on the vfaq that you had to grind off some rivets and remove some the small retainers on the lower honeycomb...well on my car the honeycomb pretty much just came out. All I did was wiggle the honeycomb around a little and it came right out. It took about 5 seconds. My question is do I need to remove the rivets and small retainers? You can see them in the pic below.

http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/leche1103/detail?.dir=/fd17&.dnm=13da.jpg

I also turned out the screw beneath the lower honeycomb so it was not blocking air flow. Thanks for the help.

 

[91awd]

No you don't have to remove them if you got the honey comb out already.

 

[HondaKiller]

You would want to save the retainers and clips if you ever wanted to put the piece back in I suppose.

 

[ditchmagnet]

when i took my honeycomb out...i just bent the retainers a bit...then bent them back when i got it out...

 

[droppedspyder]

Is the MAS on a 4g64 the same as the 2G 4g63? The adapter plate is the same but I just don't know. Can't you remove a honeycomb deal from the MAS? I looked in the VFAQ and it says for a 1G only. Just curious in looking for little HP here and there. BTW Turbo 4g64 Hybrid almost done!!!

 

[illeagle_talon]

With DSMs there are the infamous free mods and one of the most popular is the removal of the honeycomb in the MAF. Some people say that it's safe and some don't. I was just wanted to know if we could settle this once and for all. Is removing your honeycomb a safe and effective free mod?

 

[98RedGs]

http://www.vfaq.com/mods/filter-print.html
Go read up about it and the vfaq will tell you what you want to know.

 

[blcknspo0ln]

that link is for a 1g.. if you have a 2g, there's only one way to find out. take out the side honey combs and see how she runs.. and remember.. dont FUDGE them up when taking them out, because you might need to put them back in.

btw, the BCS removal mod is way more worth the time than this honeycomb thing

 

[14.5 drift]

I just took out lower and side honey combs and now the car idles like it's got 272's, but it hasn't stalled so I think i will leave it. to forwarn you it was terrible the first two times I drove it, I had to give it gas when I stop to keep it from stalling, but then the third time I drove it it idled fine on it's own. I think the computer adjusted for the idle.