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Winter 07/08 Projects and Plans?

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The best way to learn by yourself is to run in high gears. This will force you to maintain momentum through the turn because otherwise you will have to shift down. Eliminate first and second gear completely from your repertoire (except when starting off, of course).

For braking, always brake in a straight line, and get all your downshifting done BEFORE the turn. Don't worry about heel and toe. That's why God invented synchronizers.

Brake as hard as you can for a short a time as you can-this is called threshold braking. Never hit the brakes at any speed over 100mph (you'll eat up your brakes if you do). Just coast on down until you are under 100, then hit them hard. DO NOT eeeeease down on the brakes and hold them on for a long time, like you do on the street. This heats them up worse than hitting them hard. Get on, get off!

It's brake/downshift, lift off the brakes, turn in, ease down on the throttle, and accelerate through the apex all the way to corner out. In third or fourth gear, of course.

Also, learn the difference between fade and boiled fluid: If you have a hard pedal, but the car doesn't want to stop, you have fade. Most likely your pads are wore down. Change the pads. If your pedal goes to the floor, but pumps back up, you have boiled the fluid. Bleed the brakes at the next opportunity.

Good luck. Get instruction, too.

Good post Rich. ALWAYS brake in a straight line ALWAYS. I cannot express that enough. As just to ditto what he said, also get those downshifts done in this same time frame as your braking.

Also, I know the old drivers ed rule of 10 and 2 rains through some peoples minds. But to me and ALL of the instructors I have had over the years. A more prone hand positioning on the wheel is actually 3 and 9 o'clock. (for me) It feels as I have better control over the steering thus over the car and where I want it to go. Just something else to think about as well.
 
cool guys, thanks! I really, really find all this helpful.
i need to start working on my suspension a little, since i get a little bit too much 'hop' as i am turning. I don't know if my shocks are blown or if i need to stiffen 'em up a little.
 
I'd like to change out my rear struts/ springs. Unfortunately the current ones are fighting for their life to stay on :(

Good information Mr. Poop :)
I'd like to grow some balls and give a try at autocrossing.
 
I'd like to grow some balls and give a try at autocrossing.

I cannot help you there. In my few experiences at it, I found it to be an extremely violent activity, with the car being thrown this way and that, lots of 1st gear running (yuk), being forced to run a meaningless "slalom" through a series of cones, and trying to get a good time on cold tires and cold brakes. Also, you waste a huge amount of time waiting for the 5,000 other cars to make their runs. Essentially, in autocrossing you spend all fooking day waiting to get three 30 second runs.

I did learn that you want to run with the local Corvette club, because they do not stage events on postage-stamp parking lots, and they design their courses for real cars, not Hondashitboxes. On a Corvette Club autocross, you might actually get out of 1st gear once in a while.

Finally, when you get experienced at it, you discover that there is always some SERIOUS DUDE in your class who has spent a fortune on mods and tires, and is impossible to beat.

Some of the folks on this list take autocrossing seriously, and are very good at it. I am not one of those people, but I salute anyone who is good at what they do behind the wheel.

I would much rather take a cornr at 100+ than 10+, but different strokes for different folks.
 
I cannot help you there. In my few experiences at it, I found it to be an extremely violent activity, with the car being thrown this way and that, lots of 1st gear running (yuk), being forced to run a meaningless "slalom" through a series of cones, and trying to get a good time on cold tires and cold brakes. Also, you waste a huge amount of time waiting for the 5,000 other cars to make their runs. Essentially, in autocrossing you spend all fooking day waiting to get three 30 second runs.

I did learn that you want to run with the local Corvette club, because they do not stage events on postage-stamp parking lots, and they design their courses for real cars, not Hondashitboxes. On a Corvette Club autocross, you might actually get out of 1st gear once in a while.

Finally, when you get experienced at it, you discover that there is always some SERIOUS DUDE in your class who has spent a fortune on mods and tires, and is impossible to beat.

Some of the folks on this list take autocrossing seriously, and are very good at it. I am not one of those people, but I salute anyone who is good at what they do behind the wheel.

I would much rather take a cornr at 100+ than 10+, but different strokes for different folks.

Auto-X is a GREAT way to start off and learn the basics of car control. I would HIGHLY recommend attending a few auto-x's before hitting up bigger track days.
 
I find myself agreeing with both Rich and talonTSIDriver. For someone on a tight budget who wants to get out and run their cars without getting tickets on the street and learn soem car control. Autocross events are the place for them. But I would also say I would rather be on a road course any day of the week. But for some, budgeting does not allow that to happen for them. So autocross is their salvation until they can get on the big tracks.

I say go for some autocrosses and see how you like that experience first before you totally toss it off the list. I have done some in the past and enjoyed them. But also as Rich said, try to find one that is hosted by the Vette guys. Their tracks tend to be longer and "faster".
 
Winter Project plans into reality....

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well ill get in on this. i plan on changing the timing belt. it had a hard season.. then im upgrading to a bigger turbo (s16g now) and then turbo timer, thermostatic fan controls, 660cc injectors and of course, "slicks"... (fwd).. after that i may get an afc (gm maft setup now) and a wideband setup so i can further tune the ride..
 
Thanks extreme-elements. Merry Christmas to you as well. Everyone have a safe and Happy New Years !!!!

Looking good D_Eclipse. Get some pics up when you get it all buttoned up and done.
 
Got a few hours in last night...oh and its a Frank 4 turbocharger. Garret internals (e60 compressor wheel, td06 exhaust wheel)

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Just bumping this thread up to see what everyone has been up to. I have my car in to get some testing done and a few other smaller things done. Just some random routine maintenance to get ready for the next round of my series.

  • Compression wet and dry (To see what all needs to be replaced in the off-season)
  • Leak Down Test
  • Boost Leak Test
  • New Couplers with T-Bolts
  • Tranny Fluid exchanged for new
 
Sold mine.

It's now in the hands of someone who can drive it AND wrench on it. Can't wait to see how it runs with a new intake, turbo and all the other stuff he's talking about.

We might run it in One Lap 2009. It ran One Lap in 2003.
 
Sold mine.

It's now in the hands of someone who can drive it AND wrench on it. Can't wait to see how it runs with a new intake, turbo and all the other stuff he's talking about.

We might run it in One Lap 2009. It ran One Lap in 2003.

No more for you then eh? Still have a DSM or no? Good luck to the new driver !!
 
I have a 300C Hemi AWD (wife's car), a 740 BMW and a truck. The truck, which was only used for towing, may go, too.

I am currently looking for another toy car, something I don't have to wrench on. That sorta eliminates DSMs. I love the little buggers, but I can't deal with the problems any more.

My crew, who are all preparing their own cars, has a DSM, a 3000GT and a Stealth among them, and I will be going to the tracks to support their efforts. So, I shall remain part of the DSM/Mitsubishi community.

Rich
 
Stuff I have already done:
Install ACT 2600 & ACT Flywheel

Currently working on:
FMIC w/all new I/C pipes.
Weight Reduction
Install FP Race Ex Mani

Need to do yet:
install 750cc Inj
Re-tune
Order and install TCE Big brake kit
do something about sunroof "plug"

Current picture of the garage:
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The new Street Shoes:
19inch SSR's with Bridgestone Potenza
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Nice its a gorgeous car. Not feeling the 19s, but still nice looking. Let us know how that FP race manifold is, I really debated buying one and I might regret not getting it.
 
Nice its a gorgeous car. Not feeling the 19s, but still nice looking. Let us know how that FP race manifold is, I really debated buying one and I might regret not getting it.

yeah, the 19's are ok. I got an AWESOME deal on them, $600 for rims and tires which had about 50 miles on them.

I'll get some more pics up of the progress, but probably not for a while. Goin to FL to see tsiboosted. :)
 
I have a 300C Hemi AWD (wife's car), a 740 BMW and a truck. The truck, which was only used for towing, may go, too.

I am currently looking for another toy car, something I don't have to wrench on. That sorta eliminates DSMs. I love the little buggers, but I can't deal with the problems any more.

My crew, who are all preparing their own cars, has a DSM, a 3000GT and a Stealth among them, and I will be going to the tracks to support their efforts. So, I shall remain part of the DSM/Mitsubishi community.

Rich

Well glad to hear you will still be around DSMs Rich. I have been VERY lucky so far racing DSMs, nothing "serious" (knock on wood) has happened as of yet. They guys that wrench my car own their own shop so its kewl for them to shut up a bit early and head to the track with me. They also store the car at the shop, so they just turn a wrench here, turn a wrench there till she is done. I am Super lucky as it is only 4 miles from my home as well.
 
yeah, the 19's are ok. I got an AWESOME deal on them, $600 for rims and tires which had about 50 miles on them.

I'll get some more pics up of the progress, but probably not for a while. Goin to FL to see tsiboosted. :)

Oh yeah. Should be on your way now Andy. Hopefully your trip to Nashville was good and safe. Drive safe to FLA man. Give us a ring when you get into town.
 
Slow old poop, dang your selling your dsm.
What do you think you will be getting next? Any ideas.
 
Why the change? Cause M3's and C4's are definitely no fun to wrench on.
 
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