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What Turbo is this? [Merged] Turbo ID Identification

Posted by StealthFox, Dec 28, 2002

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  1. Vegas smith

    Vegas smith Proven Member

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    Maybe you could use a plug instead of a banjo bolt? Or rotate the compressor a little to miss the bolt?
     

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    1993 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
    awd · manual · 1G DSM
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  2. JusMX141

    JusMX141 Moderator

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    Could be any of the journal bearing DSM-flanged units from PTE. Without wheel specs on both sides of the unit your inquiry will forever go unresolved.
     

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    1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse GST
    manual · 2G DSM

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    1997 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
    awd · manual · 2G DSM

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    1992 Eagle Talon TSi
    manual · 1G DSM

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    1993 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
    manual · 1G DSM
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  3. Gottiboy

    Gottiboy Proven Member

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    Was thinking about grinding the banjo bolt and a little on the turbo. The spot where it hits is a flat surface on the turbo.
     

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    1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse GST
    manual · 2G DSM
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  4. Gottiboy

    Gottiboy Proven Member

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    Bummer....what specs do I need? How can I find out?
     

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    1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse GST
    manual · 2G DSM
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  5. JusMX141

    JusMX141 Moderator

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    Inducer and exducer of both wheels; pull the housings then measure using a set of dial calipers.
     

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    1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse GST
    manual · 2G DSM

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    1997 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
    awd · manual · 2G DSM

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    1992 Eagle Talon TSi
    manual · 1G DSM

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    1993 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
    manual · 1G DSM
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  6. Kizzed

    Kizzed Probationary Member

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    Hey all, so I am pretty damn new to turbos.... go figure. Another one! I have two turbos, one has shaft play and I know it would have to be rebuilt, and the other has zero shaft play but I believe I would have to get an adapter to hook it up. I googled everything I could think of to find the differences but seriously found nothing, I am thinking it might be a ebay special. Hope not... but knowing my luck! The first set of 4 is the unknown no shaft play turbo. 2nd set of 3 is the one that need work. Thoughts?

    20160928_013408.jpg 20160928_013422.jpg 20160928_013448.jpg 20160928_013508.jpg 20160928_014013.jpg 20160928_014022.jpg 20160928_014030.jpg
     

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    1997 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
    awd · manual · 2G DSM

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    1997 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
    manual · 2G DSM
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  7. boostdawd

    boostdawd Supporting Member

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    The first turbo in the picture is an eBay special. U can tell by the casting marks that say "turbocharger". The second looks like a t25 from a 2g dsm.
     

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    1997 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
    awd · automatic · 2G DSM

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    1991 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
    manual · 1G DSM
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  8. Dstarperformance01

    Dstarperformance01 Proven Member

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    ^ is right on the $$. Unfortunately it's an eBay "16g" variant. I would get rid of eBay turbo. I assume your car is a 2g correct? If so I would sell eBay turbo and either have @JusMX141 rebuild it or find a used one if you are tight on cash. If you keep eBay turbo, you will have to buy stuff to allow it to bolt up and be functional.
     

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    1993 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
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  9. Kizzed

    Kizzed Probationary Member

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    Thanks guys, messaged Justin about it. I was really hoping the first one was better haha. Kid took me for a fool!
     

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    1997 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
    awd · manual · 2G DSM

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    1997 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
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  10. TalonHermit

    TalonHermit Proven Member

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    Thank You I have been looking everywhere to figure it out. Im still debating if I want to go the route of this turbo because it was given to me with most if not all supporting mods.
     

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    1996 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
    manual · 2G DSM
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  11. CameronMr2G

    CameronMr2G Probationary Member

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    I have the same question about a turbo I found for sale. I've been looking to boost my 99 gs and I came across this, and he said it's a garrett t28 off a gsx that he bought off of a dsm forum, just wondering if I could have someone confirm or let me know what This is
     

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  12. JusMX141

    JusMX141 Moderator

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    Stock 2G T25; Value $50-$100ish.
     

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    1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse GST
    manual · 2G DSM

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    1997 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
    awd · manual · 2G DSM

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    1992 Eagle Talon TSi
    manual · 1G DSM

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    1993 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
    manual · 1G DSM
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  13. GSXvsTSI

    GSXvsTSI Proven Member

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    It says dsm-Evo III on the side of it and has a T4 twin scroll 1.15 A/R exhaust housing. No idea what it is and if you could help that would be much appreciated.
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    1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
    14.454 @ 91.81 · 2G DSM
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  14. JusMX141

    JusMX141 Moderator

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    Funny thing is it's not a direct-fit turbo for a DSM or Evo III, nor is that a T04Z-style compressor cover. Might as well just give it an Ikea name.

    dombas.jpg
     

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    1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse GST
    manual · 2G DSM

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    1997 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
    awd · manual · 2G DSM

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    1992 Eagle Talon TSi
    manual · 1G DSM

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    1993 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
    manual · 1G DSM
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  15. Dstarperformance01

    Dstarperformance01 Proven Member

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    ^ So true!! Why do people not do their research first?! Maybe people will EVENTUALLY WAKE UP!
     

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    1993 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
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  16. dustyboner

    dustyboner DSM Wiseman

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    Chinese knockoffs tend to be like that.

    like on this chinese bootlegged DVD movie summary. (see the dramatic reading HERE )

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  17. ThunderChild

    ThunderChild Supporting VIP

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    You sir, have made my night. I love literal and direct translations from Chinese/Japanese to english ROFL
     

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    1987 Toyota Pickup/Hilux
    awd · manual · Misc Vehicles

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    1997 Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder GST
    fwd · manual · 2G DSM

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    1992 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
    manual · 1G DSM

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    1992 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
    awd · manual · 1G DSM
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  18. Jacob hoke

    Jacob hoke Supporting Member

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    So I have been searching through the threads and haven't really found a whole lot I figured I would ask on this does anybody tested or tried EVO 3 gt. How did it hold up compared to say an MHI B16G I received both in a trade and haven't figured out which one I want to install I hear the GT hold up pretty well and can be rebuilt using mhi parts
     

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    1992 Plymouth Laser RS Turbo AWD
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  19. dustyboner

    dustyboner DSM Wiseman

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    Evo III GTs are crap. Go with MHI

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  20. Jacob hoke

    Jacob hoke Supporting Member

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    What was the reason they were so bad out of curiosity
     

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  21. JusMX141

    JusMX141 Moderator

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    Evo III GT's are build and distributed by CHSH turbo in Taiwan. They weren't VSR-balanced, the turbine shafts would snap on some of the earlier models, and the turbine housings aren't a high-nickel casting like the MHI housings so they'll crack over time.

    They're better than the $180 Chinese knockoffs flooding the market these days, but they're no MHI turbo for sure.
     

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    1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse GST
    manual · 2G DSM

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    1997 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
    awd · manual · 2G DSM

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    1992 Eagle Talon TSi
    manual · 1G DSM

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    1993 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
    manual · 1G DSM
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  22. DrDribb

    DrDribb Probationary Member

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    Hello, so I have tried doing a lot of research behind this but am stuck, so far this is everything i know or think i know;
    -It's a Garrett
    -Turbine: appears similar to a GT40 turbine wheel
    -Exducer 70mm
    -Inducer 77mm
    -10 blades
    -Turbine Housing A/R unknown

    -Compressor: This where i am confused
    -Exducer 79mm
    -Inducer 58mm
    -10 blades; there are 5 small ones and 5 big ones(not sure if that makes a difference)
    -compressor housing A/R 1.1

    It appears to have been rebuilt by a company called Allied Signal. I saw a guy asking about the same turbo, http://www.dsmtuners.com/threads/big-turbo.287996/ My goals are different than his though, I am looking to make 650 at the crank. I guess i am confused because looking through all the Garrett models i couldn't find any that had a GT40 turbine wheel and a smaller compressor wheel. I am looking for the model so i can see a compressor map and find out more info about this turbo.
    In that thread they talk about it having lot of lag but what if i were to buy a smaller turbine housing? i can't tell the turbine A/R, it seems large
    What effect does having a smaller compressor wheel have? from what i understood less flow, but will i get better spool?
     

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    1991 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
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  23. JusMX141

    JusMX141 Moderator

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    That's a TP38 from a 94-97 non-intercooled 7.3L Powerstroke. It's reverse-rotation, receives/drains oil through the same flange (would've sat on a "pedestal" on the truck), and the housings cannot be clocked 360*. Installation would be quite difficult, housing selection would be nonexistent. Basically has no business on a DSM.
     

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    1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse GST
    manual · 2G DSM

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    1997 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
    awd · manual · 2G DSM

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    1992 Eagle Talon TSi
    manual · 1G DSM

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    1993 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
    manual · 1G DSM
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  24. 915dsm

    915dsm Proven Member

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    Can someone help help with specs on this turbo and what type of power we can get out of it?

    thanks,
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    1992 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
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