S15 Sylvia Headlight Conversion [Merged 11-8]

[R34GSX]

^Awesome, guess I forgot to check ebay,Thats a great deal for both, .

 

[will90Eclipse]

I noticed something really funny. All the N/T guys replied that they like it, I dont even need to say anything further.

What does that have to do with anything ahole. So what if we have N/Ts that doesn't mean we don't have a sense of style I've seen some F***** ugly turbo eclipses in my day do I have to say anything further

 

[GSTicky04]

Some have asked why not buy the S15, the supra, or even the Ferrari then. Well I am with all of them. Whoever said $150k for a ferrari needs to sit down and shut up. You cannot say that all Ferraris are $150k first of all. Shit you can get older F355 for $80-$90k. So goodjob on being accurate I guess...

People tell you to buy the whole car because it pisses a lot of those people off. The supra community gets pissed at eclipse owners to put supra tailights in the eclipse. First off it looks ugly as hell, doesn't match the bodylines of a supra, and doesn't even look right. To me it just gives me the impression that that person only cares about looks and really is only a wanna-be supra owner. Shit half the money you spend in your showy ass eclipses you could of saved up for a supra in the first place.

It's not more of doing a conversion, but a conversion from a different car. 240sx with S15 conversions are fine with me here, because they are the same thing. However an eclipse and an S15 are different. I don't know but it just makes sense to most people to do that is retarded. I just laugh when a lot of you look at the price of the car rather than anything else. Look how much you put into your car before you say you couldn't afford a supra for example. I hope you know that you could just buy an N/A supra(because it seems most of you don't care about performance mods) for about $10-$20k if you had to go this route. Then drive it as that, then you wouldn't have to spend all the useless money on a converstion to a car that doesn't flow at all with a supra to begin with. Then with that you actually have a supra that you wanted to look like in the first place, and with that you have a rarer car to drive around with. Then if you wanted to turbo you could, easily. Kits vary from $2-$5+k. Just depending on turbo and so fourth. It's really not out of the ballpark to anyone, just people dont use there brains to figure out that you could afford a supra. Sell your DSM and you prob got maybe half of the supra right there. Then the money you were gonna spend on that stupid conversion you could use towards the supra? Hmm sounds plain and simple to me....

Ferrari wanna bes make me sick. Lets buy a cheap Fiero and act like its a Ferrari. Cool I'm driving around a $25k Ferrari? To some people it's more than just driving a Ferrari people. To me I would rather spend my money on something expensive that can give me a lot of things out of the box (stock). Great looks, great interior, great performance (or potential, big part!), and great braking and cornering. However I guess some of you can stay to modding out your Hondas and Mitsubishis with parts that don't even belong near your car, like BMW fenders, and headlights from other cars.

*Edit- Add-on : Also I don't get why you throw Ferrari into the whole deal anyway when someone says buy a whole car. You would hardly see a ferrari conversion (tailights, headlights even) sure its been done but thank god not a ton. I think mostly because parts are so expensive. Plus I would think lesser to people that did exotic conversions. There really is no point to it. Plus don't tell me because you like the lights that you don't like the whole car(supra, S15, etc). Also, why are usually these conversions done on Hondas, and Mitsubishis especially? You wouldn't see a BMW or Lexus throwing eclipse tailights on there car now would you?

So does that just mean we are the border line and above us everyone has great tastes and everyone isn't dumb enough to switch out there taillights and headlights? Seriously my question to you is why did you even buy your DSM in the first place if you are afraid to show off the stock body. You just show us you hate the looks and you want to act like its something else. Yeah if you are N/A you say you have nothing else do go with. Well not really, why not boost it? Also, whoever said why not make it look good? Well sure you could by leaving it stock looking. I mean a stock body with rims and lowered can look really really good. To me anyway. I get compliments on how my car looks STOCK, and sorry to the guy that only worries about how his car looks to girls. It's not our problem you can't get a girl without your car being there to help you.

Going back to the N/A deal. The money you are spending to 'make it look good' as you would say. Well the money you are putting into it, you could EASILY buy a turbo DSM for that. However I think you guys just make up more excuses to make yourself think that you can't afford another car. Maybe actually take the time to think and look at things before you think things are far from your budget. Oh wait lemme guess you are complaining that DSMs break down? I've had my car for over two years and have had NO problems with my car. Seriously go drive a supra, or a Ferrari, or whatever you are trying to make your DSM look like and you may see why people get mad when you copy there car. A N/A DSM will not perform anywhere near a supra or a 240, or a Ferrari. Seriously have you guys ever drove another car besides your N/A DSM? I guarentee if you drove something that was actually fast you would be more into performance. You guys just make me sick.

Usually I don't say anything but I just thought I voice my opinion on all of this. However I'm sick of crappy stuff driving around, I see more riced out things anymore than actually nicely done cars. Yes that can be an opinion and well I respect anyone for there choices. However, why make a thread asking others if they will like the S15 conversion? It's been done before, you decide. Or are you afraid to make decisions on your own? Go get a life. Do what you want to your car. If it looks like crap, well that's your problem. If it's nice to you, well then that is all that should matter. I'm just saying don't make your car something that it's not.

 

[and11200]

Or.....he could just go ahead and do the conversion anyways because he likes it. After all, its his car, his money, and his time.

 

[Berettamike]

Everyone can go back and forth forever on pros and cons but it all comes down to personal expression. If u like it, do it.

 

[JDP AWD 1g]

yes, plus the guy never mentioned whats hes planning on doing with his car...how are you automatically assuming that he isnt looking to get a few sponsors and start showing his clean ride ?.....and just let me state, custom conversions get you points with the judges at shows...

 

[Flash]

and just let me state, custom conversions get you points with the judges at shows...

And what experience do you speak from? That isn't true. If a conversion is done, qaulity plays a factor. If it looks like crap then it will hurt you more then help you. Also, the BIGGEST thing is it depends on what the judges are looking for.
It may get you points, but it won't win you a show. You need a well rounded car if you want to start placing at shows.

 

[VPrime]

heres a 1G with it... Ewwwww...

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and anotehr 2G.. looks nicer with this kit... but i think it looks to close to stock to be worth it..?

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[suicidal2af]

To all those suggesting to buy an s15:

We don't live in japan.

Anyway, it looks good and matches the lines of your car. Go for it.

 

[suicidal2af]

Some have asked why not buy the S15, the supra, or even the Ferrari then. Well I am with all of them. Whoever said $150k for a ferrari needs to sit down and shut up. You cannot say that all Ferraris are $150k first of all. Shit you can get older F355 for $80-$90k. So goodjob on being accurate I guess...

People tell you to buy the whole car because it pisses a lot of those people off. The supra community gets pissed at eclipse owners to put supra tailights in the eclipse. First off it looks ugly as hell, doesn't match the bodylines of a supra, and doesn't even look right. To me it just gives me the impression that that person only cares about looks and really is only a wanna-be supra owner. Shit half the money you spend in your showy ass eclipses you could of saved up for a supra in the first place.

It's not more of doing a conversion, but a conversion from a different car. 240sx with S15 conversions are fine with me here, because they are the same thing. However an eclipse and an S15 are different. I don't know but it just makes sense to most people to do that is retarded. I just laugh when a lot of you look at the price of the car rather than anything else. Look how much you put into your car before you say you couldn't afford a supra for example. I hope you know that you could just buy an N/A supra(because it seems most of you don't care about performance mods) for about $10-$20k if you had to go this route. Then drive it as that, then you wouldn't have to spend all the useless money on a converstion to a car that doesn't flow at all with a supra to begin with. Then with that you actually have a supra that you wanted to look like in the first place, and with that you have a rarer car to drive around with. Then if you wanted to turbo you could, easily. Kits vary from $2-$5+k. Just depending on turbo and so fourth. It's really not out of the ballpark to anyone, just people dont use there brains to figure out that you could afford a supra. Sell your DSM and you prob got maybe half of the supra right there. Then the money you were gonna spend on that stupid conversion you could use towards the supra? Hmm sounds plain and simple to me....

Ferrari wanna bes make me sick. Lets buy a cheap Fiero and act like its a Ferrari. Cool I'm driving around a $25k Ferrari? To some people it's more than just driving a Ferrari people. To me I would rather spend my money on something expensive that can give me a lot of things out of the box (stock). Great looks, great interior, great performance (or potential, big part!), and great braking and cornering. However I guess some of you can stay to modding out your Hondas and Mitsubishis with parts that don't even belong near your car, like BMW fenders, and headlights from other cars.

*Edit- Add-on : Also I don't get why you throw Ferrari into the whole deal anyway when someone says buy a whole car. You would hardly see a ferrari conversion (tailights, headlights even) sure its been done but thank god not a ton. I think mostly because parts are so expensive. Plus I would think lesser to people that did exotic conversions. There really is no point to it. Plus don't tell me because you like the lights that you don't like the whole car(supra, S15, etc). Also, why are usually these conversions done on Hondas, and Mitsubishis especially? You wouldn't see a BMW or Lexus throwing eclipse tailights on there car now would you?

So does that just mean we are the border line and above us everyone has great tastes and everyone isn't dumb enough to switch out there taillights and headlights? Seriously my question to you is why did you even buy your DSM in the first place if you are afraid to show off the stock body. You just show us you hate the looks and you want to act like its something else. Yeah if you are N/A you say you have nothing else do go with. Well not really, why not boost it? Also, whoever said why not make it look good? Well sure you could by leaving it stock looking. I mean a stock body with rims and lowered can look really really good. To me anyway. I get compliments on how my car looks STOCK, and sorry to the guy that only worries about how his car looks to girls. It's not our problem you can't get a girl without your car being there to help you.

Going back to the N/A deal. The money you are spending to 'make it look good' as you would say. Well the money you are putting into it, you could EASILY buy a turbo DSM for that. However I think you guys just make up more excuses to make yourself think that you can't afford another car. Maybe actually take the time to think and look at things before you think things are far from your budget. Oh wait lemme guess you are complaining that DSMs break down? I've had my car for over two years and have had NO problems with my car. Seriously go drive a supra, or a Ferrari, or whatever you are trying to make your DSM look like and you may see why people get mad when you copy there car. A N/A DSM will not perform anywhere near a supra or a 240, or a Ferrari. Seriously have you guys ever drove another car besides your N/A DSM? I guarentee if you drove something that was actually fast you would be more into performance. You guys just make me sick.

Usually I don't say anything but I just thought I voice my opinion on all of this. However I'm sick of crappy stuff driving around, I see more riced out things anymore than actually nicely done cars. Yes that can be an opinion and well I respect anyone for there choices. However, why make a thread asking others if they will like the S15 conversion? It's been done before, you decide. Or are you afraid to make decisions on your own? Go get a life. Do what you want to your car. If it looks like crap, well that's your problem. If it's nice to you, well then that is all that should matter. I'm just saying don't make your car something that it's not.

And for the money you put into modding your car, you could just buy an evo.

Hey, how 'bout you get a life before you start flaming others. He asked a question, and you wrote a 10 page essay ending with "Go get a life."

Seems to me that's a bit of the pot and the kettle, as it were.

 

[JDP AWD 1g]

well i was assuming that anyone doing a conversion would make it right, and not leave it all hacked with sharp fenders and what not. and im definately not saying that it will win shows, sometimes it just gives the car character...

 

[GSTicky04]

Read my last post over again. Very last paragraph. Does it now say: "...However, why make a thread asking others if they will like the S15 conversion? It's been done before, you decide..." ????? So don't tell me that I didn't say he could do what he wants to do.

Also, what makes me think he's not going to do performance based mods or what not to the car? Well how is that a good point? Saving that money and sellin his N/A could get him started in a nicer setup to begin with or could he not do this to a turbo DSM? hmmmm...

You are saying I don't have a life? Sorry I don't sit on these forums as long as you do, but when I post a comment it can be long, that a problem to you? Sorry it doesn't take me very long to type so eat it. I just laugh that you say I don't have a life though. Get to know me first before you go about trying to tell me I have no life.

Whoever said the message about people going to buy an S15. Omg, we don't live in Japan? Wow that hit me hard, I must move...No crap S15s are in Japan. It's a figure of speech. Like why spend the time acting like your car is something else, might as well buy it. Also he could consider a 240sx, S15 headlight conversion, and whatever motor he please. If he's into JDM then he'd prob just go for easy swap and oh so common sr20det.

Also, why are you running to assume he is doing this for show or he is doing this so he can get sponsorships? So automatically when he does a few mods he has to go to shows? Sorry but not all sponsorships look for is style mods. Some are very strict and more than just a few companies look more on how you can sell yourself to them and please them by guarenteeing them that you can give them more business. If you can't do that then don't even try. Don't expect more than just partial sponsorships or full sponsorships only through small companies. How can I be so certain? Hmmm maybe because I know a lot of people who have been sponsored multiple times (yes same person) and have hit covers on magazines. Oh by the way, I am an aftermarket automotive dealer so hmmm I know a lot of people and know how things are worked. Some judges are ridiculous anyhow. I've heard of shows where judges will give you 1-4 points for certain areas. One of which was the following: Rims: 18" 1 point, 19" 2 points, 20" 3 points, 21+" 4 points(Grant can explain this more indepth since he was actually at this car show). What I am getting at is that what you do doesn't always please everyone or all judges. Sometimes the stupidest crap makes judges happy, such as aluminum spoilers or some other crappy stuff out there.

I am just giving my stand points and writing back from what others have said. I'm just saying if he's goin to 'win those shows' well haha he better have a lot more planned then just a conversion that are oh so common at car shows. People want to see different and conversions like these are done with. New ideas that catch peoples eyes without much doubt or change of opinions works well, and will attract the right people if you want to go further with the car (magazine or what not). I'm just getting at that different isn't always best on the other hand as well because too many people go overboard.

I just don't see why this thread is even going any further. Too many people only care what others think of there car. Who owns the car is what matters. The individual who owns it should only think of what he wants for himself. Don't let others tell you what to do to your car. Just seems like a waste of time to ask opinions about people that don't matter to you and wasting more time on a forum. If you really wanted to do this conversion already you would of started buying parts already. If you want something so bad you wont let others get in the way and voices of opinions should be the last thing you should think about. Do you ever think for yourself on anything you do to your car? Decide what you want, because in the end that is all that matters--the person holding the steering wheel everyday.

So here you go another '10 page essay.' I guess that's a problem since you can't sit through and read it all. Oh and I guess from your standard I have no life since I typed this up pretty quick. I am just giving my stand points and writing back from what others have said. I'm just saying if he's goin to 'win those shows' well haha he better have a lot more planned then just a conversion that are oh so common at car shows. People want to see different and conversions like these are done with. New ideas that catch peoples eyes without much doubt or change of opinions works well, and will attract the right people if you want to go further with the car (magazine or what not). I'm just getting at that you can't run to assume that he does appearance mods that he is doing it for car shows or whatever. Its just like saying people do performance mods and you automatically assume they street race. Just doesn't go right. How about leave the sterotypes out.

 

[fredom dsm]

Some have asked why not buy the S15, the supra, or even the Ferrari then. Well I am with all of them. Whoever said $150k for a ferrari needs to sit down and shut up. You cannot say that all Ferraris are $150k first of all. Shit you can get older F355 for $80-$90k. So goodjob on being accurate I guess...

People tell you to buy the whole car because it pisses a lot of those people off. The supra community gets pissed at eclipse owners to put supra tailights in the eclipse. First off it looks ugly as hell, doesn't match the bodylines of a supra, and doesn't even look right. To me it just gives me the impression that that person only cares about looks and really is only a wanna-be supra owner. Shit half the money you spend in your showy ass eclipses you could of saved up for a supra in the first place.

It's not more of doing a conversion, but a conversion from a different car. 240sx with S15 conversions are fine with me here, because they are the same thing. However an eclipse and an S15 are different. I don't know but it just makes sense to most people to do that is retarded. I just laugh when a lot of you look at the price of the car rather than anything else. Look how much you put into your car before you say you couldn't afford a supra for example. I hope you know that you could just buy an N/A supra(because it seems most of you don't care about performance mods) for about $10-$20k if you had to go this route. Then drive it as that, then you wouldn't have to spend all the useless money on a converstion to a car that doesn't flow at all with a supra to begin with. Then with that you actually have a supra that you wanted to look like in the first place, and with that you have a rarer car to drive around with. Then if you wanted to turbo you could, easily. Kits vary from $2-$5+k. Just depending on turbo and so fourth. It's really not out of the ballpark to anyone, just people dont use there brains to figure out that you could afford a supra. Sell your DSM and you prob got maybe half of the supra right there. Then the money you were gonna spend on that stupid conversion you could use towards the supra? Hmm sounds plain and simple to me....

Ferrari wanna bes make me sick. Lets buy a cheap Fiero and act like its a Ferrari. Cool I'm driving around a $25k Ferrari? To some people it's more than just driving a Ferrari people. To me I would rather spend my money on something expensive that can give me a lot of things out of the box (stock). Great looks, great interior, great performance (or potential, big part!), and great braking and cornering. However I guess some of you can stay to modding out your Hondas and Mitsubishis with parts that don't even belong near your car, like BMW fenders, and headlights from other cars.

*Edit- Add-on : Also I don't get why you throw Ferrari into the whole deal anyway when someone says buy a whole car. You would hardly see a ferrari conversion (tailights, headlights even) sure its been done but thank god not a ton. I think mostly because parts are so expensive. Plus I would think lesser to people that did exotic conversions. There really is no point to it. Plus don't tell me because you like the lights that you don't like the whole car(supra, S15, etc). Also, why are usually these conversions done on Hondas, and Mitsubishis especially? You wouldn't see a BMW or Lexus throwing eclipse tailights on there car now would you?

So does that just mean we are the border line and above us everyone has great tastes and everyone isn't dumb enough to switch out there taillights and headlights? Seriously my question to you is why did you even buy your DSM in the first place if you are afraid to show off the stock body. You just show us you hate the looks and you want to act like its something else. Yeah if you are N/A you say you have nothing else do go with. Well not really, why not boost it? Also, whoever said why not make it look good? Well sure you could by leaving it stock looking. I mean a stock body with rims and lowered can look really really good. To me anyway. I get compliments on how my car looks STOCK, and sorry to the guy that only worries about how his car looks to girls. It's not our problem you can't get a girl without your car being there to help you.

Going back to the N/A deal. The money you are spending to 'make it look good' as you would say. Well the money you are putting into it, you could EASILY buy a turbo DSM for that. However I think you guys just make up more excuses to make yourself think that you can't afford another car. Maybe actually take the time to think and look at things before you think things are far from your budget. Oh wait lemme guess you are complaining that DSMs break down? I've had my car for over two years and have had NO problems with my car. Seriously go drive a supra, or a Ferrari, or whatever you are trying to make your DSM look like and you may see why people get mad when you copy there car. A N/A DSM will not perform anywhere near a supra or a 240, or a Ferrari. Seriously have you guys ever drove another car besides your N/A DSM? I guarentee if you drove something that was actually fast you would be more into performance. You guys just make me sick.

Usually I don't say anything but I just thought I voice my opinion on all of this. However I'm sick of crappy stuff driving around, I see more riced out things anymore than actually nicely done cars. Yes that can be an opinion and well I respect anyone for there choices. However, why make a thread asking others if they will like the S15 conversion? It's been done before, you decide. Or are you afraid to make decisions on your own? Go get a life. Do what you want to your car. If it looks like crap, well that's your problem. If it's nice to you, well then that is all that should matter. I'm just saying don't make your car something that it's not.

wow!! looks like somebody is aboout to comit suicide because a stupid conversion!!! damn next time you post something take that stick out you ass, and if youre so sick of conversions I advice you eather shot your self or lock yourself up in a room bacause its not about to change, and If a wanted a silvia or even a supra I wouldnt need your permision cus I can drive those cars whenever I want. whats your problem dude??? youre telling me to go get a life, youre asking me if Im afraid to make decisions on my own. trust me you dont need to tell me if its my problem or not, and why make a treat asking what ever that hell I want well, 1st of all b/c I can!! 2d of all Im not afriad of doing anything dude, you dont know what the hell your talking about 3rd of you tell me to get a life, if its not your car, if its not your money if its not yor time waisted, if its not your car thats going to look like shit, YOU GO AND GET A LIFE AND QUIT WORIEING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE STUFF!! nowhere on the rules states that you have to do what other people say this is just their opinion, if I listen or dont if I do things or not its my problem and if you youre going to write a 10 paragraph essay telling me what to do or judging me I suggest you go get help seriious help cus like I said it aint about to change and if what people are saying bothers you so much nobody is telling you to read all this. as for driving faster cars, you have no idea what the hell your talking about you sound like if youre 18yrs old I could say more but that means lowering my self to your ignorance. Its good that you dont post much but when you do state your opinion but dont talk personal shit like asking others if they are afrid or drive faster cars, J F Y I my grandpha drives 97 ferrari f50, and I drove it every weekend. YOU HAVE NO KNOWLDEGE OF THE WORD PERFOMANCE!!
stay away from the forums!!!

 

[endlessMyk]

Holy shit some people are bitter about conversions. I understand not everyone likes them, I know some look god-awful... but if you like how it looks, I say you go for it. But don't do a major change unless you're absolutely sure. Find as many pics, photoshops, whatever and decide if you like it. You could do it and regret it a month down the road.

I'm kinda sick of the "keep it looking stock" attitude. I understand this is mainly a performance forum, but some people like both power and looks. I won't argue that both the 1g and 2gs look good stock, but you know, some of the aesthetic mods CAN look good. It's all in the eye of the beholder. And you know what? If you REALLY hate visual mods, stay the hell out of the Appearance threads!

 

[Berettamike]

Amen and exactly on every word!!!

 

[kronus]

heres a 1G with it... Ewwwww...

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and anotehr 2G.. looks nicer with this kit... but i think it looks to close to stock to be worth it..?

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As far as the 1g goes, it looks ver distasteful IMO because the headlights do not flow with the original lines on the car. However, I think that the conversion on the 2g is very nice and compliments the attitude of the car. Also, I think that since the S15 headlights are closer to stock than some other conversions out there, it gives the conversion a little more style. I say leave cars stock rather than slap huge body kits on it, but in this case, the conversion has been done with a good sense of style; not wickedly outrageous.

I say do it and do it well. If done correctly it will turn out beautifully, and you'll have a very unique 2g. Keep us posted on how it goes.

-Kevin-

 

[RWKustoms]

Wow! This thread have taken a toll that I would've never expected when I first posted these pictures. I think that people should really stop telling another person to "go buy a S15" or "buy a Ferrari F50" because of someone wanting to do a conversion. When you think about it most of us all dont know each other outside of these forums and we have no idea what each person is capable of doing. I mean, can't someone just want to stick with a N/T or just want to keep their Eclipse for whatever reason. When I first drove an Eclipse I fell in love and I've had many opportunities to go buy that "brand new Evo or STI" or for that matter even a brand new high priced car of my choice. Us keeping these cars are what makes us a strong community 60,515 strong and everybody has different ideas of what they want to do to make their car unique because of so much personalization options. When it's all said and done if this dude does this conversion someone will be proud of him for doing it because I know I definitely will be.

 

[fredom dsm]

Wow! This thread have taken a toll that I would've never expected when I first posted these pictures. I think that people should really stop telling another person to "go buy a S15" or "buy a Ferrari F50" because of someone wanting to do a conversion. When you think about it most of us all dont know each other outside of these forums and we have no idea what each person is capable of doing. I mean, can't someone just want to stick with a N/T or just want to keep their Eclipse for whatever reason. When I first drove an Eclipse I fell in love and I've had many opportunities to go buy that "brand new Evo or STI" or for that matter even a brand new high priced car of my choice. Us keeping these cars are what makes us a strong community 60,515 strong and everybody has different ideas of what they want to do to make their car unique because of so much personalization options. When it's all said and done if this dude does this conversion someone will be proud of him for doing it because I know I definitely will be.

amen to you brother!!

 

[GSTicky04]

The only reason I jumped in this thread was to hang on and agree with some of the other people that voiced there opinion. No where did I say that he shouldn't do the conversion. Nor did I tell him what he should or shouldn't do.

I know everything I said isn't going to be agreed by everyone, and that's fine. I just think it's funny that you are getting mad at someone on a forum. It's the internet, maybe you should calm down 'brother.'

I know not everyone wants a car that they could of bought with the money they spent doing the conversion, and to me it is fine. All I was going at was voice of opinions. A lot of what I said is what I know others will agree on and well of course will disagree on. I am very familiar with the supra community and I know for sure it pisses them off when they do conversions. In any of what I said did I say to stop doing what YOU want to do. I said quit asking others to do what you want to do because whatever you do is NOBODIES business. That is all I was getting at. I have said that multiple times and I guess you just didn't read my message clearly.

Like I said again, this is the internet and I don't care we all voice our opinion. If you don't think I know the performance industry well, then you got me all wrong. You don't know where I am in life and don't know the cars I've been around. However, I am not going to get worked up like you have to someone that means nothing to me. I don't spend hours upon hours on forums because I have a lot of shit to get me where I want to be in life. So in otherwords, I could really care what you think because I know myself and you have no idea.

 

[Berettamike]

Holy crap i was doing research on the S15 lamps and then things are like $700-$900. Damn i was hoping like $300 . Def. a hot looking mod. thou

 

[GSTicky04]

Holy crap i was doing research on the S15 lamps and then things are like $700-$900. Damn i was hoping like $300 . Def. a hot looking mod. thou

Yeah they aren't cheap but to some people that is what they want. Really depends what that person wants to do with the car.

Also, I'm not sure I was wrong from my previous posts but I agree that not everyone will agree with me. If you want to hate me, that's your choice. I usually don't throw a lot of negativity online nor do I in person. In person I am a very honest and non-cocky kinda guy. However I posted somethings because I was pointing out what others had said and cleared up. However, when I talked all the people bashing the lights quit talking and then all those that liked it started jumping down my throat which is fine. Some of my messages may have not been clear to a lot of you and for that I say sorry. I never said it was a tasteless mod because I never threw out my opinion and I never said he couldn't do the mod or had to have performance, just suggestions and wasn't throwing out opinions. The ones that decide to hate me are the ones that don't know me and the plans I have in the process and planned for all of us as a DSM community. For those that want to throw more negativity at me they can do it via PM because I don't want to bundle this conversation up on another individuals thread. I am usually not the one to do this and well I just did. I just thought I'd clear this stuff up...

 

[suicidal2af]

Yeah they aren't cheap but to some people that is what they want. Really depends what that person wants to do with the car.

Also, I'm not sure I was wrong from my previous posts but I agree that not everyone will agree with me. If you want to hate me, that's your choice. I usually don't throw a lot of negativity online nor do I in person. In person I am a very honest and non-cocky kinda guy. However I posted somethings because I was pointing out what others had said and cleared up. However, when I talked all the people bashing the lights quit talking and then all those that liked it started jumping down my throat which is fine. Some of my messages may have not been clear to a lot of you and for that I say sorry. I never said it was a tasteless mod because I never threw out my opinion and I never said he couldn't do the mod or had to have performance, just suggestions and wasn't throwing out opinions. The ones that decide to hate me are the ones that don't know me and the plans I have in the process and planned for all of us as a DSM community. For those that want to throw more negativity at me they can do it via PM because I don't want to bundle this conversation up on another individuals thread. I am usually not the one to do this and well I just did. I just thought I'd clear this stuff up...

Nobody has an issue with the people saying "I don't like it." People have an issue with you because you went out of your way to talk shit and flame people for doing what *they* want with *their* cars.

And my question wasn't to him, it was to you: why bother putting money into your car to make it faster? Just sell it and buy something faster.

Oh, and it took me a lot less time to type this I'd wager.

 

[shpyder]

I do not like swaps, and this is why:

I believe that the intrinsic personality of car is contained in 3 specific regions (pretty psych stuff, but please read on):

The headlamps (the eyes, enterance to the soul of the machine)

The front bumper (the mouth part of the face, defines the characer of the car:aggressive, passive, nonchalant, etc)

The rear bumper (less significant thatn the above two, but still determines the overall personlity of the vehicle, e.g., eclipse rear = classic chunky butt, unique to eclipses/talons)

When people add body kits or lips to the front of the car, the character changes, but the essense remains the same: the headlamps, the eyes, are still of the original car, and hence retain a lot of its personality as that particular type of vehicle. It's like putting on your Sunday best; you don't usually dress that way, but you are still recognizable as you because your face is what defines you.

A person does a headlight swap on his car. Now, suppose a "Dave" decides to go wear colored contacts, masking the orignial color of his eyes, and decides to shave off his trade-mark goatie that he's worn for years, and grow his hair after a lifetime of supporting a buzz-cut. He has essentially changed what defined him as "Dave". He is now someone else after this facial change; just like getting the headlight of another car. Here's the important thing: it is clear that "Dave" has changed, but whether people think this change looks good on him (like some people appreciate the S15 light swap), others might want the old dave back because that is what defined him, though they don't mind the tux he's wearing (original headlamps with a good body kit = okay).

I hope I didn't sound like too much of a crackhead. But I'm afraid it's too late....

 

[endlessMyk]

I do not like swaps, and this is why:

I believe that the intrinsic personality of car is contained in 3 specific regions (pretty psych stuff, but please read on):

The headlamps (the eyes, enterance to the soul of the machine)

The front bumper (the mouth part of the face, defines the characer of the car:aggressive, passive, nonchalant, etc)

The rear bumper (less significant thatn the above two, but still determines the overall personlity of the vehicle, e.g., eclipse rear = classic chunky butt, unique to eclipses/talons)

When people add body kits or lips to the front of the car, the character changes, but the essense remains the same: the headlamps, the eyes, are still of the original car, and hence retain a lot of its personality as that particular type of vehicle. It's like putting on your Sunday best; you don't usually dress that way, but you are still recognizable as you because your face is what defines you.

A person does a headlight swap on his car. Now, suppose a "Dave" decides to go wear colored contacts, masking the orignial color of his eyes, and decides to shave off his trade-mark goatie that he's worn for years, and grow his hair after a lifetime of supporting a buzz-cut. He has essentially changed what defined him as "Dave". He is now someone else after this facial change; just like getting the headlight of another car. Here's the important thing: it is clear that "Dave" has changed, but whether people think this change looks good on him (like some people appreciate the S15 light swap), others might want the old dave back because that is what defined him, though they don't mind the tux he's wearing (original headlamps with a good body kit = okay).

I hope I didn't sound like too much of a crackhead. But I'm afraid it's too late....

Woah! Way to psycho-analyze the DSM...

 

[fredom dsm]

Yeah they aren't cheap but to some people that is what they want. Really depends what that person wants to do with the car.

Also, I'm not sure I was wrong from my previous posts but I agree that not everyone will agree with me. If you want to hate me, that's your choice. I usually don't throw a lot of negativity online nor do I in person. In person I am a very honest and non-cocky kinda guy. However I posted somethings because I was pointing out what others had said and cleared up. However, when I talked all the people bashing the lights quit talking and then all those that liked it started jumping down my throat which is fine. Some of my messages may have not been clear to a lot of you and for that I say sorry. I never said it was a tasteless mod because I never threw out my opinion and I never said he couldn't do the mod or had to have performance, just suggestions and wasn't throwing out opinions. The ones that decide to hate me are the ones that don't know me and the plans I have in the process and planned for all of us as a DSM community. For those that want to throw more negativity at me they can do it via PM because I don't want to bundle this conversation up on another individuals thread. I am usually not the one to do this and well I just did. I just thought I'd clear this stuff up...

Look bro! I don't think anybody has beef with you or hates you because of what you said, it was just the way you said it that I don't think was right. If you go back and read the firs post you wrote, you are telling me to go get a life, thats telling me what to do and its not your opinion, you also ask me if im afriad of doing something, that is a question and not your opinion. IMO people do converssions for many reasons, personally I like those headlights, you also said "whay change the appearance of the car" well its like saying why upgrade to a bigger turbo? you know what Im talking about bro? personally I have nothing against you but you do understand that this forums are to state our opinions not to get personal with each other, if youre sick about coverssions there isn't much you or I can do about it is there? So lets just post our coment and quit judging people that we don't even know!