Best Turbo? [Merged 9-9] turbocharger upgrade

[hukster00]

hi, i wona upgrade my turbo on the gsx, and there is so many choices dont know which one to buy, so i asking you pepz wich turbo is best for under 1k for street/strip setup thanks,

 

[92AWDHX40]

Evo 3 big 16 is my suggestions, get the mods and you will be will have a decent
street turbo.

 

[outkastracing]

is this your first dsm???? first thing first get a second job and divorce your wife if you have one youll need all the time and money you can to work on it well 350 i say evo 16 do the free mods that should take care of some fuel cut just read the forums theyll tell you everything you need.

 

[DSMunknown]

i would first want to do a turbo upgrade

You've got a shitload to learn, newbie.

• http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/fre...uestions/55410-top-10-most-popular-dsm-q.html
• http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/fre...uestions/55418-what-should-my-first-mods.html
• http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/fre...estions/12447-before-you-ask-about-turbo.html
• http://www.dsmtuners.com/sub.php?page=2gtupgrades
• http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/announcements.html

 

[dsmulla]

Another one of these questions. The search button is a good tool and so is the upgrade path on this website. Look into maybe, just maybe you will find all the answers to your questions!

 

[DontStartModdin]

A 14b will make a noticable difference in power. You will be very satisfied with it.

I wouldn't recommend going any bigger until you have the supporting mods.

BTW I have a perfect 14b i'll sell you for a good price. PM me if interested.

 

[theebluecrx]

Evo 16g.Enough room to make 400hp and the feel of a tdo5 turbo as far as spool.

 

[_DeS_]

I tend to disagree here... First what you want to do is set your personal goals... Are you aiming at 350 hp? If so, don't waste your money on one turbo (14b) just to replace it a few months later. Step back for a minute and decide exactly what your end goals are, and then follow the 2g upgrade path to get you there! Just remember, as stated at the beginning, it's not the turbo alone that makes you power, it's all of the fuel and air supporting mods, with a good tuning device!

I also agree with buying it once then to have to keep upgrade over and over agian. But he doesn't seem to know much about dsms and you always have to take baby steps to insure he knows about the car rather then to blow it up in a week. He is not trying to make the car a beast at the monent. He said he wanted it to be allitle bit faster then stock and to get the car running.

 

[sd_ff22]

You've got a shitload to learn, newbie.

• http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/fre...uestions/55410-top-10-most-popular-dsm-q.html
• http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/fre...uestions/55418-what-should-my-first-mods.html
• http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/fre...estions/12447-before-you-ask-about-turbo.html
• Tech Guide: 2G 4G63t Upgrades - DSMtuners
• DSM Forums - Announcements in Forum : Newbie Forum

Classic Anthony Awesomeness!

-Dan

 

[sd_ff22]

I also agree with buying it once then to have to keep upgrade over and over agian. But he doesn't seem to know much about dsms and you always have to take baby steps to insure he knows about the car rather then to blow it up in a week. He is not trying to make the car a beast at the monent. He said he wanted it to be allitle bit faster then stock and to get the car running.

And a simple search would have given him way more usable info than starting ANOTHER thread covering a subject that was old 10 years ago.

-Dan

 

[Strm Trpr]

GST and an Evo III 16g = mad wheel spin
I know, I've been there.

 

[95autogst]

After just finishing a rebuild and install of a small 16g on my 2g, there is one thing that was always coming to mind, "way on earth didn't I buy the T28?" sure its not that hard of an install, but there would have been a lot less headaches with a T28. I ended up spending about $330 for the turbo, where now days you can easily find a T28 for the same, sometimes less, and not have to buy a oil feed line, drill out the oil return line, bend the coolant lines, or stretch the intercooler pipe just to get it to BARELY fit. Yes I'm glad to be rid of the undersized T25, and yes the 16g feels much better even at 13psi, but if I were to do it all over again my money would have gone to a T28 no doubt.

 

[_DeS_]

After just finishing a rebuild and install of a small 16g on my 2g, there is one thing that was always coming to mind, "way on earth didn't I buy the T28?" sure its not that hard of an install, but there would have been a lot less headaches with a T28. I ended up spending about $330 for the turbo, where now days you can easily find a T28 for the same, sometimes less, and not have to buy a oil feed line, drill out the oil return line, bend the coolant lines, or stretch the intercooler pipe just to get it to BARELY fit. Yes I'm glad to be rid of the undersized T25, and yes the 16g feels much better even at 13psi, but if I were to do it all over again my money would have gone to a T28 no doubt.

You keep comparing the small 16g to the t28, why not compare the e16g to the t28. Most people that have been recommended the e16g rather then the small 16g for a reason.

 

[Bluefire16]

Im also new but i found searching uncovers a lot! http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/articles-turbo-system-intercooler/184138-intro-turbos-turbo-upgrades.html

 

[97gstjosh]

Please read this before you do anything:
Tech Guide: 2G 4G63t Upgrades - DSMtuners
Frequently Answered DSM Questions - DSM Forums
Tech Guide - DSMtuners


A few things to keep in mind when you start modding:

Set a goal/budget before buying any parts. No plan = more money later.


Be realistic with those goals and plans. What will your car be used for?


There is no "best" part when it comes to modding.


Find out the emissions requirements in your area before choosing parts.


Do your research before you buy parts - make sure the parts you buy will work together well.


Usable power under the curve is important, not just big overall horsepower numbers.


Work within your budget.

Then after all of that get an EvoIII 16g I love mine
It is a very close toss up between the EvoIII and T28.
If you go T28 get either this one:
Forced Performance: DSM FP Big 28 Turbo
Or this one:
Blouch Turbo Inc. - Our performance turbo upgrades and rebuilds

Both cost more but the Fp will flow as much as an EvoIII 16g and I wouldnt be suprised if the
Blouch one would outflow it
just my .02 cents for you.

 

[bomper04]

BIG TROUBLE!! i got a 16g turbo on my car and just today i was driving...fast and i came to a stop, put it in 1st and went up to around 3500...after that i didn't hear my turbo spooling up, or my guage needle climbing as i opened up the throttle. instead i felt a steady shaking of my whole car..it was like something was holding my car back..turbo was spooling but not as much as it normally does. so basically, i believed i'm ####ed and will have to rebuild it. unless you guys can think of what's wrong with it. HELLPPPPPP

 

[97gstjosh]

Ok can you please start this discussion in another thread and fill out your profile.
Or is that all you have is the 16g? Dont hijack a thread thank you
I will be more than glad to help you

 

[_DeS_]

BIG TROUBLE!! i got a 16g turbo on my car and just today i was driving...fast and i came to a stop, put it in 1st and went up to around 3500...after that i didn't hear my turbo spooling up, or my guage needle climbing as i opened up the throttle. instead i felt a steady shaking of my whole car..it was like something was holding my car back..turbo was spooling but not as much as it normally does. so basically, i believed i'm ####ed and will have to rebuild it. unless you guys can think of what's wrong with it. HELLPPPPPP

Your post is pointless, Its completly in the wrong thread and not to mention you sound like you don't even care. As long as the thread has a 16g on it, you felt it was ok to post in here.

And yes it sounds like your turbo is f*cked.

 

[JusMX141]

You keep comparing the small 16g to the t28, why not compare the e16g to the t28. Most people that have been recommended the e16g rather then the small 16g for a reason.

It's simple:
T28 Compressor= 500cfm
Small 16G Compressor= 505cfm

Big 16G/EvoIII Compressor= 550cfm.

If you want to compare turbos that flow completely different amounts of air, you might as well compare th T28 to a 60-1

 

[bomper04]

sorry for posting on here but i tried posting on another thread and it said i couldn't post, start a new thread and everything else.

 

[97gstjosh]

sorry for posting on here but i tried posting on another thread and it said i couldn't post, start a new thread and everything else.

Go into the Newbie forum and post a thread.
There should be no reason it wont allow you to do so

 

[layzie12g]

DO IT RIGHT THE 1st TIME. Go with a real evo 3 16g, 2g install kit, injectors, fuel pump, and something to control it. Im not including all the other little given bolt ons such as exhaust,wideband, and so on. Then you will need a front mount to make any kind of significant number because the lil side mount gets heat soaked. As far as 350 goes you are going to spend about 3 times the money you expected....or at least i did. Then when your car does start making any kind of power you will have to replace all of the old parts that will begin to break. Oh yeah and dont try to go out of control with the boost. So many people kill their cars because they make mistakes an informed person wouldnt. Get close with your local dsm shop and people. Have fun and good luck.

 

[95autogst]

You keep comparing the small 16g to the t28, why not compare the e16g to the t28. Most people that have been recommended the e16g rather then the small 16g for a reason.

You're taking my post out of context, I was not talking about all out performance, but was comparing the installation of the two turbos. If you look at his original post he says, "i dont want to go crazy with the turbo but i just want something alittle bigger so what would be the next best cheapest thing." With this in mind, he's probably not going to push the turbo to the choke line. If he's really looking at the performance capabilities in the realm of a Evo III, than a FP Big T28 would be able to fit the bill just fine (with out the $200 being spent on an install kit).

 

[JusMX141]

If he's really looking at the performance capabilities in the realm of a Evo III, than a FP Big T28 would be able to fit the bill just fine (<b>with out the $200 being spent on an install kit</b>).

I'm often puzzled as to why folks make such a huge deal about "install kits" for putting a TD05H turbo on a 2G. All the coolant lines from the T25 will fit, and the oil drain pipe can be made to work easily by slightly slotting the two upper holes.

The only thing left to purchase is a 1G oil supply line, and a 1G j-pipe for the compressor outlet....a whopping $50 spent in accessories.

 

[95autogst]

I'm often puzzled as to why folks make such a huge deal about "install kits" for putting a TD05H turbo on a 2G. All the coolant lines from the T25 will fit, and the oil drain pipe can be made to work easily by slightly slotting the two upper holes.

The only thing left to purchase is a 1G oil supply line, and a 1G j-pipe for the compressor outlet....a whopping $50 spent in accessories.

I agree that people freak out about the install kit, and am also amazed that people buy or sell them in the first place, but when you're new to the DSM world that's what people think you have to buy.

 

[DSMunknown]

GST and an Evo III 16g = mad wheel spin
I know, I've been there.

Wish I had f***ing AWD.