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Street Build Return of the King

Year:
1993
Model/Trim:
Eagle Talon TSi AWD
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  1. OH91awd

    OH91awd Proven Member

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    yea youre right but i couldnt find anyone that made them when i looked for whatever reason. so i made my own and tbh they look exactly the same as his brackets LOL. only thing i did different was i riveted my brackets on the fender but im going to be changing that to a rivnut soon.
     

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    1992 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
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  2. Vegas Smith

    Vegas Smith Proven Member

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    A lot of small changes came to the car. Where to start. I wound up installing a Radium fuel pressure damper between the fuel pump and fuel rail. I've had a weird VE issue around 3-4k where the car goes really lean. Check the pics. My guy Kjewer couldn't figure it out and didn't want to give the ve table unrealistic values to satisfy the wideband factor. I was looking on Radium's website and this damper was said to help with that EXACT issue. However, upon install it hasn't done much to help.
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  3. Vegas Smith

    Vegas Smith Proven Member

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    I've really been enjoying the Spartan, industrial look of all the black items in the engine bay and wanted to go all black and get rid of my purple and red parts.

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  4. Vegas Smith

    Vegas Smith Proven Member

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    I went back to the PC680 small battery. I want to say it dropped 20lbs or so the last time I installed it. I'm very big into weight loss, but you have to have the correct charger for this battery. I killed the last one and will be more careful this time.

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  5. Vegas Smith

    Vegas Smith Proven Member

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  6. TK's9d2TSi

    TK's9d2TSi Supporting Member

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    Why did you get rid of the side exit?
     

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  7. Vegas Smith

    Vegas Smith Proven Member

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    I originally bought a 2.5” side exit for my 18g setup because I was going stick with the 16g style turbo. However, plans changed and I got rid of it. It was really loud, but the second side exit I bought was a 3” for the current turbo and it was unbelievably loud. Now I’m stuck with that hole until I patch it up.
     

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  8. We're on Boost

    We're on Boost Proven Member

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    I'm kind of a battery nut so I'd be interested in knowing what it was about your old charger that killed the PC680.
    "Cause of death" haha.
    I've never had a PC680.
     
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  9. Vegas Smith

    Vegas Smith Proven Member

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    Well, I'm definitely not knowledgeable about batteries, but I think I let the battery discharge too low and wasn't able to recover it. Either I made the mistake of discharging it too low or my charger did have enough amps to recover it. I bought an Odyssey approved charger and will only use that.
     

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  10. We're on Boost

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    Ok. Yeah, running it down too low (running it "flat") more than once or twice is pretty bad, at least for the regular "wet" batteries it is.
    One trick with that though, you might need to know about even with the Odyssey chargers and batteries.
    These chargers are "smart" - you know, like your phone, which means they will only do what they want, which is not always what you want.
    So reading the Odyssey 2 page charger guide pdf, I see that "Stage 2 - Analyzing" says:
    "The charger determines
    if battery is capable of being charged. 'System
    Check OK' indicator will illuminate green and
    proceed to Step 3."

    My CTEK chargers have a similar stage. Basically if the CTEK thinks my battery voltage is too low, it will declare the battery a basket case and will refuse to charge it.

    So to get a charger like this to work on a deeply discharged battery, you might need to know a workaround.
    The workaround that works with my CTEK chargers is like this: If the CTEK refuses to take the job, I will hook up my ancient "dumb" battery charger to the battery and let it run for about 10 minutes. The dumb charger will run current (or try at least) without regard to the state of the battery. Your dumb charger should preferably be a small one, like 6 to 10 amps rated. Limit it to about 10 to 15 minutes. Check voltage at the battery terminals with your multimeter, just for the sake of science.
    Then hook up the "smart" charger and see what happens. Chances are it will take the job and resurrect your battery.

    I imagine the Odyssey chargers will be the best ones for your PC680 but another charger that should be real good is the CTEK MXS 5.0 which has an AGM mode, and is $72 on Amazon. The CTEKs automatically switch to a "maintenance" mode that works similarly to the "Stage 5 Auto Maintain" mode in the Odyssey, which is good.
     

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  11. Vegas Smith

    Vegas Smith Proven Member

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    Haha, I wish I would have known that the last time around. I think it's possible I could have saved the battery but I had an extra full-size and didn't have the energy (no pun intended) to mess with it.
     

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  12. We're on Boost

    We're on Boost Proven Member

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    I know the feeling!
     

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  13. Vegas Smith

    Vegas Smith Proven Member

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    I saw some brand new FIC 2150 injectors for sale at a discount so I picked those up in anticipation of buying a bigger turbo or some bullshit I shouldn't do. I hard-wired the new connectors into the harness as I'll show later. I also added a very nice Magnus fuel rail. I'm loving the engine bay now with everything black.
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  14. Vegas Smith

    Vegas Smith Proven Member

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  15. camfast

    camfast Proven Member

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    Car looks great Nick!
     

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    1991 Eagle Talon TSi AWD
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  16. We're on Boost

    We're on Boost Proven Member

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    I'm just noticing that you installed rear-toe eliminators a while back.
    Did you notice any change in the handling of the car? I mean mostly handling in a straight line under hard acceleration.
    What are they supposed to do for handling?
     

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  17. Vegas Smith

    Vegas Smith Proven Member

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    I can't say I noticed anything purely because I built the car all at once and never drove it prior. However, it's supposed it make the rear more aggressive in turns. I can attest to that as the car seems to more aggressive the harder you turn and will get loose if pushed far enough.
     

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  18. We're on Boost

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    Not sure what it means for the rear to be more aggressive. Do you mean it changes the balance between understeer and oversteer to more oversteer? So the back end comes out easier?
     

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  19. Vegas Smith

    Vegas Smith Proven Member

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    Correct, and that's what it feels like based on what my old car felt like in my memory (15 years ago).
     

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  20. We're on Boost

    We're on Boost Proven Member

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    Aha, ok thanks!
     

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  21. 1cleangsx

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    Can we get a current engine bay pic?
     

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  22. Vegas Smith

    Vegas Smith Proven Member

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    I did a mini-wire tuck with the engine harness. I routed the injector, TPS, CAS and PTU wires under the intake manifold and resheathed virtually everything. It was a lot easier than I imagined and looks so much cleaner. Take a look at just how long and beat-up it was. A lot of work has been done on this thing.

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  23. Vegas Smith

    Vegas Smith Proven Member

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    Here are the before and afters:

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  24. Vegas Smith

    Vegas Smith Proven Member

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  25. tsiawd90

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    That looks a ton better. Nice Job.
     
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