Winter 07/08 Projects and Plans?

[tsiboosted]

We got the FP race manifold on and putting on some new Hawk HP+ brake pads in the front for the fianl round of the Grand Bayou Race Series this weekend. Currently in 3rd place overall in the points, 1 point behind second but unfortunatley, out of reach of the overall title. Hopefully I can throw a win in here and take 2nd out right without having to go to some sort of tie breaker. Should be a great event. Have the awards ceremony after the event as well. There is going to be TV coverage of the event this time around too, pretty kewl to me to get some TV exposure for the series. Will have plenty of pics and hopefully some in car video of some of my runs for you guys too. Trying to figure a good way to get my camera in there here last minute. Fingers crossed on that one though.

After the last event here, it will be time to tear the car down and begin the rebuild for next season. Shooting for a done date of around July sometime. There is an event at Road Atlanta I want to run in so time is already a factor. Lot of changes coming up to the car and some more weight loss for her as well. The done date all swings on how much and what I can get together by then as well.

 

[mavisky]

How are the HP+'s working for you? What kind of braking are you subjecting them to on a given race? Are we talking like 90-50 braking or 130-45 braking?

 

[Zero Bar]

I'd like to know the kind of wear you get out of those pads, they were horrible on the S2000 I drove last year and didn't even last a season of autocross and were as dusty as the Carbotechs we had before that.

 

[mavisky]

Mine have held up fine on my car so far, although I will agree with the dusty as all get out claims.

 

[talonTSIDriver]

I'd like to know the kind of wear you get out of those pads, they were horrible on the S2000 I drove last year and didn't even last a season of autocross and were as dusty as the Carbotechs we had before that.

My HawkHP+'s on my silver car seem to work just fine, but I never took them on a super high speed (120+mph) track. They did seem to always get me nice wheels dirty, but I was ok with that.

 

[tsiboosted]

How are the HP+'s working for you? What kind of braking are you subjecting them to on a given race? Are we talking like 90-50 braking or 130-45 braking?

The HP+ pads work great for me on this track and others I have been on. There is not really a section on the track I currently race at that the braking is as drastic as 130-45. But we do go from around 90-35 in a few corners. I dont really use the brakes all that often as it is. Hard anyway....Down the front straight, I do around 120 - 125 and just tap them to settle the front of the car to go through turn 1 at around 110 - 115. Like I said, there is really only 2 spots on the track where I need to get from around 90 - 100 down to 35 - 45. And these Hawk pads get the job done for me quite nicely.

With the HP+ pads, I can get 2 events out of them. 2 events to me though is 2 full practice days with about 2 - 3 hours of track time and 2 actual races with about an hour and 15 minutes of track time. So say on average I can get around 8 1/2 hours of track time on the pads. Now they are GONE when that happens. But to me, 2 full events on 1 set of front pads is VERY nice.

I also run the VIP Garage Centric slotted rotors (gotta get the sponsor plug in) with these pads and this is a great combination for me. SS lines and ATE Super Blue fluid is my setup there.

I see I toook a while to post that and others have chimmed in. So here are some other thoughts on them.

They squeek quite abit until they get up to temp. But that doesnt take long.

They do put off more than average of dust, but I dont care about that. I'm not in a car show here. I need them to stop the car and they do.

As for wear, like I said. I get about 8 hours or so of track time; at the track the series is on, on a set of pads. We are not on the brakes all that much here. And I really dont use the brakes a lot period to be honest with you. I live in boost, need to stay in boost. Brakes just deter that for me.

Now my car is almost completely gutted so the weight of my car is probably much less than others cars as well. Only thing remaining is ac & heating items which will be coming out soon as well. So you have to take that into consideration with wear as well, as I am not stopping as much moving weight as others are.

 

[Eagle 5]

Sorry it took so long to get these pictures up but here are some of the v-mount setup I was talking about. I don't have any with the engine in it and how the driver's side motor mount is modified but maybe you can see what I meant by "v-mount" as opposed to the way Greg had his.

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[chavez408]

I just order my FP manifold!!!
Now how do you do it by keeping these manifold nice and cool during lap times? Mine is un coated and I wont be purchasing their heat shield since I am in the bay area and it is illegal to have shiny stuff in your car..ha
I was thinking of purchasing a 10''fan for my FMI and as well some exhaust wrap for the new manifold. Any advice

 

[asian312]

Sorry it took so long to get these pictures up but here are some of the v-mount setup I was talking about. I don't have any with the engine in it and how the driver's side motor mount is modified but maybe you can see what I meant by "v-mount" as opposed to the way Greg had his.

Right on! The fabrication skills in this community never cease to amaze me. And that is one clean engine bay to boot

Eager to see how this turns out. Any concerns with getting air to the turbo and engine for cooling?

 

[Ravenous]

I must admit that I'm very excited to see how that v setup is come about. Also very interested in how you are going to route the end tanks as well. Some amazing stuff there.

 

[talonTSIDriver]

I would be curious to see what sort of room you'll have to fit the engine and turbo in there. It looks like it will be really close. Good job though on the fabrication, looks very well done.

 

[mavisky]

Agreed, looks like that's going to be pretty tight. Are you going to be running a topmount setup? I'd love to see some pics of the engine block in the car.

 

[Dsm2nr89]

My plans is to start modding the car and get a suspension, fidanza short shifter, custom made fmic system, intake and 2.5" turboback for now.

 

[Zero Bar]

They do put off more than average of dust, but I dont care about that. I'm not in a car show here. I need them to stop the car and they do.

As for wear, like I said. I get about 8 hours or so of track time; at the track the series is on, on a set of pads. We are not on the brakes all that much here. And I really dont use the brakes a lot period to be honest with you. I live in boost, need to stay in boost. Brakes just deter that for me.

Now my car is almost completely gutted so the weight of my car is probably much less than others cars as well. Only thing remaining is ac & heating items which will be coming out soon as well. So you have to take that into consideration with wear as well, as I am not stopping as much moving weight as others are.

I see. I was curious as the wear was a lot faster than anticipated last season with those pads, they simply didn't last as long as the Carbotechs before. We got away from the Carbotechs because they turned out white wheels gunmetal in half a day of autocross and they squealed like pigs, they were darn good pads though. The S2000 is under 3000lbs even with me in it and the brakes on that car are quite big so I don't think that was a factor for us, just surprised how quickly they were gone but that seems to be about par for those pads.

 

[tsiboosted]

I see. I was curious as the wear was a lot faster than anticipated last season with those pads, they simply didn't last as long as the Carbotechs before. We got away from the Carbotechs because they turned out white wheels gunmetal in half a day of autocross and they squealed like pigs, they were darn good pads though. The S2000 is under 3000lbs even with me in it and the brakes on that car are quite big so I don't think that was a factor for us, just surprised how quickly they were gone but that seems to be about par for those pads.

Yeah, they dont seem to last all that long by comparison. But I am still very pleased with their performance for me on the track. They squeak like I said until they get to temp then no noise at all. There is some dust but like I said, I am not overlly concerned with the way the wheels look on the track. And for the price I am able to get them at, I cant go wrong with the HP+'s.

What rotors were you running with them? I have seen from time to time the rotor play in the pad wear more than the pad itself. Just curious is all.

 

[talonTSIDriver]

maybe its time to upgrade to some air-brakes

 

[tsiboosted]

maybe its time to upgrade to some air-brakes

HaHaHaHa....Maybe it is Andy.

 

[1997hciv]

In two weeks I will be replacing my V-trim with an S256, 550's for 850's, safc for DSMlink, wally 190 for a 255hp, 2.5" injen for a 4" fp, and I will be replacing my 32x7x2.5 tube and fin fmic for a 31x12x3 bar a plate from dejonpowerhouse with maroon piping to match the car. I think that covers it.

 

[Dsm2nr89]

Anyone know where i cand find a decent 14b with little or no shaft play at all ? I am also looking to upgrade my pos t2small for now meanwhile i save for something big later on.

 

[talonTSIDriver]

Anyone know where i cand find a decent 14b with little or no shaft play at all ? I am also looking to upgrade my pos t2small for now meanwhile i save for something big later on.

Id save up $300-400 and find a good used 16g or even a T28.

 

[chavez408]

Any experience with exhaust wrap guys?
For the fp mani's

 

[mavisky]

If you're not going to put on a heatshield I'd highly highly suggest having it coated. Plasma coating is the hot new ticket in the racing world.

 

[Zero Bar]

Yeah, they dont seem to last all that long by comparison. But I am still very pleased with their performance for me on the track. They squeak like I said until they get to temp then no noise at all. There is some dust but like I said, I am not overlly concerned with the way the wheels look on the track. And for the price I am able to get them at, I cant go wrong with the HP+'s.

What rotors were you running with them? I have seen from time to time the rotor play in the pad wear more than the pad itself. Just curious is all.

Stock. The S2000 stock stuff is actually quite good but we did manage to turn the rotors all kinds of funny colors and had to replace them at the end of the season.

 

[Flash]

If you're not going to put on a heatshield I'd highly highly suggest having it coated. Plasma coating is the hot new ticket in the racing world.

Where can you get it done?

 

[Eagle 5]

In response to the v-mount, I wish I could say I did the work but it is not mine. Maybe one day. The hood has a custom cent built into it as you may be able to tell in one of the pictures. That is supposed to help with the airflow for the intercooler. The tubro was setup so that the exit was almost directly into the IC on the passenger side. The outlet being on the drivers side and the pipe going straight back over the driver side engine mount. Intake manifold was flipped around. The engine mount was modified to allow the pipe to pass through. Also it uses an electric power steering pump, I believe from a MR2. If I can get pictures with an engine in it I will but could not find any. Wish it was my car but it was a friends. I may try this on my car eventually as it seems like a better way to mount them but you have to have a custom exhaust manifold I believe.