What Turbo is this? [Merged] Turbo ID Identification

[1g8420a]

Turbo in pic1 is a Garrett T-25 stock on 2g dsm
Turbo in pic3 is a Mitsubishi 14b stock on 1g dsm

Thanks Phantom.

 

[JusMX141]

T25

16G / 18G / 20G (need wheel specs to confirm since the cover has been de-badged)

14B


I'd run the middle one, keep the bottom one as a spare, and scrap the top one.

 

[xuberantz]

Is this a real Garrett DBB GT3582(35r?)? I'm in the market for a bolt on turbo kit and I'm considering this turbo (old bolt on AMS kit I'm told, that uses a t3 adapter)... I've been considered the 8 Blade HX40 in a .55 ar BEP housing but having a hard time finding one. Are these turbo's rebuild-able in the future? I'm told it has no shaft play and is ready to bolt on...

 

[JusMX141]

Is this a real Garrett DBB GT3582(35r?)?

Sure looks like it.

Are these turbo's rebuild-able in the future?

Nope.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/turbo-system-tech/462209-rebuilding-garrett-bb-chras.html

 

[xuberantz]

Sure looks like it.

Nope.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/turbo-system-tech/460856-garrett-gt-series-rebuild-kits.html

Many Thanks. In your opinion with 500-550awhp goal in mind would you go with an 8 blade HX40 in a .55 BEP or with something like this 35r? The adapter plate thing scares me but from what I can find people had good luck with the kit a long time ago.

 

[Archer Fabrications]

Ahh thats where that post went.

Edited

 

[djuorna22]

I had no idea the size of my turbo when I first bought my car either, I knew it wasn't stock but I was able to take enough numbers off the housing to type on google and that helped me to find what I had.

 

[ILL eagle]

If your car is a manual and this is the stock turbo then it is most probably the 14b but you cant be sure 100% until you remove it and take a closer look at it.

 

[StreetThisDSM]

I recently acquired a 1G that has sat for almost the last 10 years. For the life of me I cannot figure out what turbo & o2 housing are on it. I've searched with no results. I have been into DSM's for almost 15 years and I have no idea what the hell I have. Any help would be great!

Turbo

The wastegate has a sticker saying:

430819-39
01260
26675

The compressor housing is stamped:

Garrett, A/R 60, M10

The compressor wheel is a 14 fin design (dual 7 blade)

The turbine wheel inducer size was 60mm (2.3622"). I only had a few minutes and didn't have time to get more measurements. I can today after work.

It uses a bolt on TD05 housing with internal wastegate and OEM flapper wheel. This piece looks to be like any other TD05 housing but was ported to 7cm.

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o2 Housing

This cast housing is HUGE! The previous owner tapped it for a EGT gauge so that is not part of the original housing. Any ideas??

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[GRAVEDIGGER]

Hi Chris,

I don't know what the heck that is either. Although you may get some replies here, you may want to post this up in this thread... http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/57878-what-turbo-merged-turbo-id-identification.html

Sorry I don't have any good answers for ya, just wanted to let you know where you might get more traffic to help answer the question. BTW... I am friends with Greg and Lauren whom I believe you know. I went to Stark State with Greg. Just wanted to let you know that's why I called you by name. (I'm not stalking you)

 

[Steve93Talon]

If you look at your 3rd pic, you can see that it's a MHI bearing housing adapted to the Garrett TA compressor cover. This leads me to think it's an old Mutt from DSM Performance. I'm drawing a blank on the o2 housing, it's similar to an EVO 3 but with a longer outlet. Aftermarket cast o2 housings for DSMs are few and far between.

 

[JusMX141]

No idea on the o2 housing. I'll put that out there first.

Turbo is a hybrid between a TD05H Mitsu and a TB0348 Garrett from a Buick Grand National. Compressor specs would confirm this, but it's definitely a Mitsu center housing with a 20* clip on a TD05H turbine, set into a Garrett TB0348 cover using an adapter plate.

Turbo needs rebuilt- I can see a little oil residue on the bottom of the v-band flange where the center housing connects to the turbine housing, likely coming from behind the heat shield. There is also evidence that the backside of the compressor wheel has rubbed the heat shield, indicating thrust play which should be addressed before the turbo turns itself into a pile of scrap.

TB0348, for reference:

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[StreetThisDSM]

No idea on the o2 housing. I'll put that out there first.

Turbo is a hybrid between a TD05H Mitsu and a TB0348 Garrett from a Buick Grand National. Compressor specs would confirm this, but it's definitely a Mitsu center housing with a 20* clip on a TD05H turbine, set into a Garrett TB0348 cover using an adapter plate.

Turbo needs rebuilt- I can see a little oil residue on the bottom of the v-band flange where the center housing connects to the turbine housing, likely coming from behind the heat shield. There is also evidence that the backside of the compressor wheel has rubbed the heat shield, indicating thrust play which should be addressed before the turbo turns itself into a pile of scrap.

TB0348, for reference:

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Thanks for the info. By hand the turbo has zero shaft play in any direction. I'll try and get measurements tonight.

I wonder who made this thing.

 

[JusMX141]

By hand the turbo has zero shaft play in any direction. I'll try and get measurements tonight.

That's interesting...perhaps the turbo had massive in/out play at one time and was rebuilt using the same heat shield and turbine?

This pic clearly shows a visible scuff mark on the heat shield behind the turbine at about the 7-o'clock position which seems fairly fresh as it's not buried under layers of carbon. I'm also seeing some cracks in the webbing between the turbine blades which would also be a result of friction caused by the turbine contacting the heat shield.

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[StreetThisDSM]

That's interesting...perhaps the turbo had massive in/out play at one time and was rebuilt using the same heat shield and turbine?

This pic clearly shows a visible scuff mark on the heat shield behind the turbine at about the 7-o'clock position which seems fairly fresh as it's not buried under layers of carbon. I'm also seeing some cracks in the webbing between the turbine blades which would also be a result of friction caused by the turbine contacting the heat shield.

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The mark you see @ 7 o'clock is from me turning the wheel while the housing was off.

I'm sure it could use a re-fresh as it is pretty old. I'd be curious to see what type of power it can make. Again I'll get more measurements on both wheels tonight.

I'll also grab a pic of the o2 housing next to a stocker. It has to be 4 times the size! I wish I knew who made it.

Thanks for the help thus far!

 

[JusMX141]

The mark you see @ 7 o'clock is from me turning the wheel while the housing was off.

Trust me, you can't mark the heat shield that badly from the wheel touching it while it's loose. The wheel has definitely made contact with the heat shield at some point during it's lifespan. If there's no in/out play present right now, someone apparently did a low-budget rebuild.

 

[StreetThisDSM]

I got quick measurements. They should be pretty close.


Compressor:

Exducer - 2.7140"

Inducer - 2.0650"



Turbine:

Inducer - 2.2000"

Exducer - 1.9580"

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From Robert @ FP - Turbo came from Extreme Turbo and Fabrication and is called the 'MUTT'. Circa 1999.

They made three different levels. Can't find out what version. Their three versions ranged from 36 lbs/min to 55 lbs/min. From the compressor wheel size I'd guess it is close to the power output of a 20g. So maybe 45 lbs/min??

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Additional o2 housing pictures. Anyone ever seen this piece before?

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[Jchimpo]

Hi Guys!

I am looking at possibly buying a turbo on ebay (Not Made In China), but there isn't much time left on the auction and the seller hasn't gotten back to me yet about the model number to tell for sure what model that it is.

The listing doesn't say which turbo this is only that it is a TD05H. I know this could mean its either a 14b, 16g or (I think) possibly an 18g.

Could some of you please review these pics and let me know if there a way to visually ID what turbo this is.

BTW I have searched for this info, I was able to determine that its not an evo III though due to the exhust flange, but could not find a definitive answer without knowing the model number and time is off the essence.

Thanks Guys!

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[hubz91talontsi]

The 78-11020 on the exhaust housing is telling me its a factory 6cm 14b turbo.

It would be almost impossible to tell just by looking at the O2housing if it were a evo3 turbo. The angle difference if very slight.

 

[RamenPride]

The 78-11020 on the exhaust housing is telling me its a factory 6cm 14b turbo.

Yeah, it's most likely a 14b.

However, it could be a 16G with a 6cm housing, but without the serial number or picture of the compressor wheel can't say what it is for sure.

 

[tuby]

Can someone confirm that this is a really MHI 20g. I was told it was and was rebuilt by Justin

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[4g63t]

kitty says, Is not a genuine MHI comp cover that's all i know

 

[JusMX141]

Genuine MHI with an aftermarket compressor cover.

 

[Turbogsxr1100]

Anyone know who made that 02 housing?

 

[ehc14]

Curious on the authenticity of this turbo? The seller is wanting to sell to me for $200. These are the pictures he sent me. I'm gonna assume no due to "model" being spelled "MOEDL" haha. Also no Garrett name on it

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