Jake Hanhardt 9.20 @ 145 1.132 60' You have GOT to see this!

[ITSME4G63]

holy shat, thats at da grove! Uber awesome run mang!

 

[topstreet]

thats at da grove!

Yeah good old GLD! Thanks for the congrats. Im looking forward to some of the "near future" upgrades I will be preforming on the car.

It was a slicks only night that day. It was pretty cool. They didnt have the track preped for the first 45mins and they were doing a RAIN DAY for the harleys so that took a little bit of time. But good god there were a lot of breaks that night. Besides the evo I was the only import there.

I was thinking about just letting the guy in the other lane go so I could hear my car the couple passes I had, but it worked out either way. Now if we can make the stagging bulb ferries stay home for the night, we can get a better run with the new goodies.

If we're ever down there at the same time, you should come up and say hi.

Thanks again,

Jake

 

[Slippi84]

I guess the way I am going to be looking at its is that "give or take" We left very close to the same time and I was a decent amount of time ahead of him at the end. I have a longer incar video that shows him passing me way after I hit the breaks.

All im saying is that his time is a reference point. I will be heading to the track again very soon.

Thanks Cullen and Chris D.

Slippi: as much as it may look like it. I dont know any one who just dumps the clutch on a multi-disc setup. The faster you can get the drivetrain to catch up to your lauch RPM with out spinning or bogging is the whole idea. The guys that just seem to "dump" the clutch, just have there slip down really well. I am not sure if you have driven the Quarter Master clutch before but, there is NO slip. Meaning whatever tire speed you have is were the drivetrain to engine rpm you are going to have. Meaning if I dont slip it enough and the tires are only spinning fast enough to match about 5k rpm, and Im at 7k. It is going to bring the engine down or drivetrain up to match. In many cases this is where things break. In my case, the millisecond I hear the turbo increase rpm I can let of the clutch. I can imagine on a car with nytrous, it would be right about when you hit the spray.

Either way, Practice is what is going to get it done. I think some of the other guys here can give there experiences with solid engagment clutches and give another perspective on the launch.

Long story short, an ACT or RPS clutch assembley, regardless of how hard it seems to hit, you realize with on of these bad boys it still has a little slip to it. Ask Jake M what he thinks about in-gear/ decel.

Jake

I hear ya bad choice of words saying dropping/dumping the cluthc all I was implying that they usualy just squat and take off while yours as redicoulsy fast and badass as it was looked like a slight roll out but like I said 1.4 1.5 1.3 whatever it was that was sick.

 

[Phippsp]

Thats is awsome! Work on that R/T and wow.

 

[wishihadatalon]

Thats is awsome! Work on that R/T and wow.

r/t has nothing to do with the time you run.

 

[jdsanchez473]

How are you guys getting 800hp out of these little engines? I mean i see how, but what kind of internals are you using to stand up to this kind of power, and dont you have problems with the head sealing up? I'm dishing out $4k on my GM Quad 4 to get 400whp (homebrew manifolds, m90 supercharger), what do you guys spend to get 800whp?

Kind of ood, seems like alot of people with the name jake that have one of the fastest cars out of the bunch.. there is a jake that runs a quad 4 and he's the fastest or 2nd fastest of us quad 4 junkies, and once my engine is complete i will be running up there with him, and my name is jake... wtf?

 

[ITSME4G63]

How are you guys getting 800hp out of these little engines? I mean i see how, but what kind of internals are you using to stand up to this kind of power, and dont you have problems with the head sealing up? I'm dishing out $4k on my GM Quad 4 to get 400whp (homebrew manifolds, m90 supercharger), what do you guys spend to get 800whp?

Kind of ood, seems like alot of people with the name jake that have one of the fastest cars out of the bunch.. there is a jake that runs a quad 4 and he's the fastest or 2nd fastest of us quad 4 junkies, and once my engine is complete i will be running up there with him, and my name is jake... wtf?

ross/weiseco pistons will handle the abuse, eagle rods or crower rods as well. Id say, built 2.0 bottom end = 3k, build head = 3k, large gt42r turbokit (exhaust manifold, wasgate, turbo etc..) = 3k, built trans = 3k , intercooller setup + misc interior and engine parts & anxles, another 5K I'd say.

Damian

 

[wishihadatalon]

ross/weiseco pistons will handle the abuse, eagle rods or crower rods as well. Id say, built 2.0 bottom end = 3k, build head = 3k, large gt42r turbokit (exhaust manifold, wasgate, turbo etc..) = 3k, built trans = 3k , intercooller setup + misc interior and engine parts & anxles, another 5K I'd say.

Damian

Man it doesn't look like a lot of money on the screen

 

[ITSME4G63]

Man it doesn't look like a lot of money on the screen

I mean, a stock motor can take you into high 10’s, you could dish out maybe 600whp on it, maybe. You’ll be on the verge of bending stock rods probably or blowing holes through the pistons or valve springs giving up or something the rath, but you can make it happen for cheaper, its just a matter of how long will it last like that. But to be running consecutive times, especially low times like these, you need a built………… everything.

Damian

 

[qtxdevilz]

Thank you Shearer. I still think it was at most a 9.6 due to the fact I womped the 9.63 next to me with a similar start. Either way I will be making up for this error soon enough. By no means is my ace on the table.

I did say I would listen to a valid explanation and that would make sense. Either way, it is a guess at this point. In 3 passes I went from 1.7/1.8 60's to low 1.5s and who knows what that one was. (other runs in the day) I have trapped as high as 151 before and there have been some nice modifications since then.

50+ psi is in the near future as well as many faster runs with out any funky lights.

what exhaust manifold are you running...

 

[topstreet]

ross/weiseco pistons will handle the abuse, eagle rods or crower rods as well. Id say, built 2.0 bottom end = 3k, build head = 3k, large gt42r turbokit (exhaust manifold, wasgate, turbo etc..) = 3k, built trans = 3k , intercooller setup + misc interior and engine parts & anxles, another 5K I'd say.

Damian

At least in my case, this is fairly off. The turbo alone is over 2200.oo the head is about right, but the lower end was more. Evil~Eagle on the other hand. He has been having really good luck on his short block. I believe he is still using the eagle rods too. I will let him tell you if he wants to.

Drivetrain: I went a different route from most. A more $ route but it seems to be holding up well (knock wood.) Tein coil overs, QM Twin disc, ACPT carbon 1 piece drive shaft, 6k shep dog box, DSS t-case upgrade. Stock axles and diffs. Leaving the intercooler & interior out of the picture, this is about double what was guessed. You probably dont need this stuff I have (or that highend) but its nice to know its there, which made it worth while for me.

jdsanchez473: Its funny you mention Jake with the quad 4 because there is a Jake in the milwaukee area with one thats painted like tony the tiger and even has the tail coming out of the trunk. Is this maybe who you are thinking of?

Exhaust manifold... I am using the standard T4 DNP. I have a crack on the wastegate tube already but it didnt stop the car from running the whatever time in the video. These are mass made which kinda sucks, but on the other hand, you can bolt some pretty high horse turbos on them. For $600.00ish I am not complaining.

 

[ITSME4G63]

that is still mad hp, I dont think I've seen a dsm pull off that much on a dyno before. Do you ahppen to drive this thing out on the street from time to time? How does that little fan cope with the cooling? (what temps do you get?)

 

[evil_eagle]

what exhaust manifold are you running...

He is running the same manifold that I run DNP t4 manifold, not the greatest manifold, but it works "OK".. As far as his motor, he is running a 2.3 stroker/ 272/272 cams with a gt42r ect ect.

 

[evil_eagle]

Evil~Eagle on the other hand. He has been having really good luck on his short block. I believe he is still using the eagle rods too. I will let him tell you if he wants to.

Ohhhh come on now man!! haha I'm running crower rods mounted on 8.5~1 ross pistons, no eagles here.

 

[topstreet]

that is still mad hp, I dont think I've seen a dsm pull off that much on a dyno before. Do you ahppen to drive this thing out on the street from time to time? How does that little fan cope with the cooling? (what temps do you get?)

I think part of that is because alot of the higher hp guys dont like to share. I never see coolant temps above 175ish. Normal is 165-170. I would like to put a bigger fan on at some point, but with 80-90 deg outside, its been fine. So we will see.
I drive mine more as a weekend car more than anything. So yes it is street driven.

SORRY JAKE.... Not trying to knock or anything... Just wasnt sure. Anyways, the reason I wanted to bring up what you were doing is because day after day after day you drive your car and bring the high hp numbers to the street. That is awesome! Thats the point I was attempting to make.

 

[qtxdevilz]

He is running the same manifold that I run DNP t4 manifold, not the greatest manifold, but it works "OK".. As far as his motor, he is running a 2.3 stroker/ 272/272 cams with a gt42r ect ect.

just wondering what kind of rod/main bearings are you both using...

i recently put calico coated acls on my pauter/ross combo and 500 miles later i took apart the rod bearings and my number one rod bearing was toasted...number two had a little stripe down the middle...number three and four were perfect...i have no idea what happened...i do not think it was metal in the oil because the mains were fine...do not think it was low oil because then number four would have been messed up more than the others...maybe knock...but if it was knocking that bad to damage number one like that in 500 miles...then number four should have had at least a little bit of damage...any help is appreciated...if you guys can respond with your aim that will help alot...thanks...

 

[topstreet]

Sorry to hear that. Did these bearings spin or just get chewed up. PM me and I will see what assistance I might be.

I am using a set of aluminum rods from FFWD. For a high end rod!!! they are not badly priced, light as all can be, and they are strong!... Backed up with off the shelf, plain-jane ross pistons.

 

[qtxdevilz]

Sorry to hear that. Did these bearings spin or just get chewed up. PM me and I will see what assistance I might be.

I am using a set of aluminum rods from FFWD. For a high end rod!!! they are not badly priced, light as all can be, and they are strong!... Backed up with off the shelf, plain-jane ross pistons.

did not spin...well at least not yet...but they were chewed up pretty bad...

what bearings do you use...

i just ordered some king bearings...what is your opinion on them...thanks...also i hate pm...if you want to im me my aim is monkeyballrose...

 

[topstreet]

You know, Ross is an awesome company by the way. No they dont sponcer me or anything like that. They are the type to help you when they can though. I have been very happy with the quality and very happy with the service.

EX: The place that was doing my machine work(local) ended up dropping the ball and I took the work somewhere else. I then realized that the old mach. shop "misplaced" one of the wrist pin clips. I called ross and told them what I needed. The lady on the other end was fairly short with what she had to say but said: "I am going to be overnighting this to you today, free of charge... Thank you for using our pistons!" She basically hung up then. I was overwelmed by this. I mean, yeah... It only cost them a few cents or what ever, but they could have been like "ohh I dont know..... 10.oo" Something like that.

 

[qtxdevilz]

You know, Ross is an awesome company by the way. No they dont sponcer me or anything like that. They are the type to help you when they can though. I have been very happy with the quality and very happy with the service.

EX: The place that was doing my machine work(local) ended up dropping the ball and I took the work somewhere else. I then realized that the old mach. shop "misplaced" one of the wrist pin clips. I called ross and told them what I needed. The lady on the other end was fairly short with what she had to say but said: "I am going to be overnighting this to you today, free of charge... Thank you for using our pistons!" She basically hung up then. I was overwelmed by this. I mean, yeah... It only cost them a few cents or what ever, but they could have been like "ohh I dont know..... 10.oo" Something like that.

yeah when i had to get my rods sent out...i took out the spiral (sp) locks that hold the wrist pins in place...so i called ross to get replacement ones...and the guy was like what is your address...so i gave him my address and he was like ok bye...i was like wait a minute...do you need my credit card number or anything...he was like no...they will be shipped out free of charge...sweet...

o yeah those spiral (sp) locks are a pain in the balls to put in...

only thing i do not like about ross is that they do not come coated like wiseco pistons...and i do have a little bit of slap...

 

[topstreet]

The only time I have had a ross slap in any motor was if it was bored too big. I have mine bored alittle larger (recommended for higher boost) and it slaps untill coolant and egt temps come up a little.

 

[qtxdevilz]

did not spin...well at least not yet...but they were chewed up pretty bad...

what bearings do you use...

i just ordered some king bearings...what is your opinion on them...thanks...also i hate pm...if you want to im me my aim is monkeyballrose...

 

[caliboy23]

I don't have a very popular opinion on the subject of aftermarket parts and their cost. My view point is that you get more bragging rights if you accomplish a lot on factory built parts. That's not to say I discredit people who build a bullet proof bottom end, I just think anyone with enough money could put expensive parts on and go fast. Which in turn just makes it more about who has the fatter wallet.

If I have an engine that has Evo pistons, DSM rods, 3rd gen lifters and so on, it's still an ALL Mitsubishi motor. But if I have Ross pistons, Groden rods, HKS cams and so on, then my motor is a Mitsubishi casting that's powered by Ross, Groden, and HKS instead of Mitsubishi. And I say that because I baught this car because of it's stock potential.

I have never gone 9 seconds in the 1/4 mile so I can't say I know what it's like to be that fast. But I can say I do know what it's like to be faster than everyone else on the street and it's my stock motor that's doing it. With that said, I think I WOULD invest a lot of money into my car to make it that fast if I DID have access to that much dispensible income.

I give "The Jakes" lots of credit for being as fast as they are. Great driving guys. There's actually more people here in my home town that know more about Evil Eagle Jake than people who know about my 10 second Eagle. hahaha. "Don't hate the player, hate the game," right? Best of luck guys. I'm pullin for ya.

 

[twicks69]

Seriously...

Jake's car has been gone since September of 2007. He popped the motor, and then parted the car out. He is making it into a RWD street car now.

Please read:

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/bolt-tech/293736-jake-hs-rear-wheel-drive-build-up-pics.html

For the record, it was NOT a 1.1 60-foot; there was debris on the staging light sensors causing the erradic flashing. It WAS a very good mid 9-second pass overall at 145mph.


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