Gt3076 aka dsm76 whistling

[JusMX141]

And no, you can't compare oil requirements from an ancient journal bearing turbo to a BB one.

Actually, the HX center housing design isn't as old as you may think- it was first introduced in the 1992-1993 era. The TD05H center housing design is older than that.

The oldest would be the Garrett T3 journal bearing center housing which began production in the late 60's/early 70's and is still in production today...it is also the most-copied center housing design in aftermarket turbochargers.

All are older than the GT, however.

all I was saying is that its better to start with more oil and if its smokes or spools slower then it should then back off some, rather then to starved the turbo of oil first.

No person in their right mind would take a new $2000 turbo and purposely over-oil it, putting the turbine sealing ring's ability to do it's job at risk for the life of the turbo. Once oil passes between the sealing ring and the sealing surface of the center housing, you're done. Kaput. Fuct. The oil will burn and stick to both sealing surfaces and it will never seal properly again.

Send an over-oiled ball bearing turbo back for warranty repair and the manufacturer will laugh in your face. Even if you *tell* them it was oiled properly, they'll know.


He did was he was told to do- he should have nothing to worry about as long as the bearings didn't fail from oil contamination.

 

[92AWDTalonTSI]

You blew a coupler or something near the compressor cover....and now you're hearing the sound of the compressor that is normally contained in the piping.



I find it funny how much like many folks come on this site and don't bother to read our rules, there are also guys who don't read the oiling requirements or even ask the manufacturer what oil is recommended for their new $2000 turbo.

http://store.forcedperformance.net/...Performance Recommendations for Motor Oil.pdf

I just want to say something. That file linked made me grin ear to ear at the second paragraph.

 

[Michael@FP]

Hi.

Why don't you e-mail me [email protected] and we'll see what we can do for you.

-Michael

 

[Michael@FP]

I was trying to find a way to say this nicely and I am unable to do so.

The information and advice regarding our product given by 3rd parties in this thread is terrible, excluding Justin.

To the OP why don't you just call us or e-mail us? We're here 5 days a week 9AM-6PM and we're happy to support our customers. I've asked around the office and nobody is aware of you or this issue. So what gives man? Do you honestly believe DSM Tuners (no offense Chris) is going to help you better with our product than us?

When you're ready to stop having a bunch of supposed experts guess at what your problem is call the actual experts and we'll at the very least determine if the turbo needs to be sent to us.

-Michael

 

[daren_p]

Looks like Michael has already covered this but yes, after reading through this thread, if you don't have experience with this specific turbo or even BB turbo's in gereral, please keep your input to yourself as it isn't correct.

These turbo's are designed to be feed from the head & designed to be run with FP's restricted inline filter. I was told years ago from Robert @ FP that they tested the GT turbo's back in the day, pushing their limits, running 15psi oil pressure & had great results. Lots of oil pressure & oil flow is not what you want with these turbo's.

To the OP, your oil requirments are more dependent on what your motor build spec/tolerances are. I ran my previous FP3052 for 5 summers with 5w30 Mobil1 up to 30psi & the turbo was still like new when I sold it. On a std thrust bearing turbo a thicker oil with a high additives package may be better suited but for a BB turbo, I don't believe its as critical. I currently run Amsoil Signature 10w30 with my DSM82.

 

[jmartinez1228]

And yet more and more turbos are failing due to lack of oil

More and more huh? I guess we are all screwed, since it seems that you have all the answers.

Would be nice if you actually had some facts to back this up. Rather then just rambling on with people who have been doing this for years and years with no issues. Funny to read this stuff I tell ya.

Sketchy to feed from the head ay? Interesting because I bought a fp3052 with 10k miles being fed from the head using fp's requirements with a restrictor and had absolutely no issues with it. Guess it's a effed up turbo too?

 

[Boostdriven]

I've said this before and I will say it again!!! No motor will put out exactly the same oil pressure so same restrictor will not work on all motors. It's been said before its best to test your oil pressure source but sadly not everyone does it just because Fp or any other company out there say you need a restrictor doesn't mean it will work. Like all of us I was a newbie before and some things cost me a lot of money but over time you learn what works and what doesn't. I feel bad for some of these guys that spend a lot of money relying on someone else's advice and then shit goes wrong, who are you going to blame? I want to see what Fp will have to say about this turbo.

 

[Michael@FP]

http://forcedperformance.net/merchant2/graphics/policy/repair.pdf

All communication about this process is considered private and confidential and should not be shared
publicly. If communication is found to be posted publicly Forced Performance reserves the right to
charge full price for the repairs performed.

I won't be saying anything about it.

But I guess I don't need to you already know all about it.


-Michael

 

[Michael@FP]

I've said this before and I will say it again!!! No motor will put out exactly the same oil pressure so same restrictor will not work on all motors. It's been said before its best to test your oil pressure source but sadly not everyone does it just because Fp or any other company out there say you need a restrictor doesn't mean it will work. Like all of us I was a newbie before and some things cost me a lot of money but over time you learn what works and what doesn't. I feel bad for some of these guys that spend a lot of money relying on someone else's advice and then shit goes wrong, who are you going to blame? I want to see what Fp will have to say about this turbo.

And yet more and more turbos are failing due to lack of oil

I have been talking on the phone with the OP for some times now about his turbo situation and at the moment I'm still collecting fuel for my fire so far its been said that it went tits up due to lack of oil but who's fault it was is yet to be determined. My guess Fp is going to try and pin the blame on him, why would they want to give away another turbo that they make at least $500+ dollars on if they don't fix his turbo I'm going to talk so much sh!t about these companies that way overprice their shiny turbos until I get kicked off this site

Oh and quoting so Jeff knows who to blame when I tell him I can't repair his turbo because he didn't adhere to our policy.

And yes I'm being a smart ass I'm not going to void his repair because you're a loud mouth.

-Michael

 

[badassgsx]

Here is what I found out from fp my turbo has been getting starved of oil since day one. I checked pressure coming out of head and I got 25 at idle 30 at 3000 and 35 at 4000. I was never told that on a 2000 dollar turbo using fp line and restrictor that I should ever have a problem Anyways I gotta send my oil line in to examine it and when I get the results I will post it. And thanks to boostdriven for actually taking time out his busy schedule to help me not only with turbo but with car in general and all you guys that just post on threads that have arguing go get a life you should be banned.
There is actual people on here that need help with real problems. we are not experts as most of you think you are that's why this forum is around

 

[jmartinez1228]

I've said this before and I will say it again!!! No motor will put out exactly the same oil pressure so same restrictor will not work on all motors. It's been said before its best to test your oil pressure source but sadly not everyone does it just because Fp or any other company out there say you need a restrictor doesn't mean it will work. Like all of us I was a newbie before and some things cost me a lot of money but over time you learn what works and what doesn't. I feel bad for some of these guys that spend a lot of money relying on someone else's advice and then shit goes wrong, who are you going to blame? I want to see what Fp will have to say about this turbo.

Exactly it is the users responsibility to verify correct oil pressure. Feeding from the head or ofh. What if the line itself was clogged due to a dirty ofh or something got caught. That is FP's fault? Right.
You are babling. Regardless of who made what from what. If you are spending thousands of dollars on something take the time to make sure everything is correct from the get go.

 

[badassgsx]

But anyways ultimately this is up to me and forced performance and I will no longer post on tuners