Oliver, Pauter, or Manley I Beam Rods?

[pindlepiper]

My 6 bolt block is at the machine shop right now and I need to decide on what rod I want to run. I will be running Wiseco HD 10.5CR pistons too. Out of these three, what would you recommend? I think I might be leaning towards Olivers as they seem to be a little lighter.

 

[lasthope05]

Whats your projected power output?

All of the rods are top notch so you cant go wrong with any of them. Personally for me I would go with the lightest rod that will meet your power demands and that would most likely be oliver rods.

 

[Kapok6]

Being that the olivers are only $6 more than the Manley's but 40grams+ lighter, I would probably go oliver.

 

[pindlepiper]

Whats your projected power output?

All of the rods are top notch so you cant go wrong with any of them. Personally for me I would go with the lightest rod that will meet your power demands and that would most likely be oliver rods.

I would like to be around 550awhp with an auto. I want room to grow so overkill is fine with me. I don't see many people on here that run Oliver or Pauter so it is hard getting much feedback.

 

[lasthope05]

I've ran pauters before in a past motor and they are very strong but heavy. That motors going on over 10 years now with over 700whp.

Honestly with your goals I'd stick to an H beam as they are much lighter. They'll handle what you'd be able to throw at them with no problem and still give your breathing room up to around 700whp or so. But, if you feel more comfortable with an I beam then go with that.

Also, in case you didnt know, wiseco mislabels their 10.5:1 pistons are for our motors and its actually only 9.5:1 with zero deck and .055 head gasket crush.

 

[bastarddsm]

It doesn't really matter which rod you pick they are all strong enough in compression. It's a pinned joint so there is only tensile and compressive loadings on the beam, which is were the highest stress is.

One or the other has better stress flow into the big end from the beam, I don't remember which. There is a few white papers out there on this subject. Be ware there is a lot of bad science in some of them. The stress flow only matters when you are looking at high cycle fatigue. Meaning hours and hours at 500hp+ you'll kill a bunch of transmissions and a crank or two before the rods get fatigued, no matter what brand they are.

Because of the specifics of this case, the heavier rods are likely stronger.

 

[pindlepiper]

It seems everyone runs the Manley Turbo Tuff I beams, but they also appear to be the heaviest of the rods as well. I think I may give the Olivers a try. I am assuming I can't go wrong with any of these choices though.

 

[bastarddsm]

FWIW, I have turbotuffs, and I turn my car close to 10000 in first and second. Rod bearings look almost new after 2 seasons at 600whp.

 

[TSIfreek]

Oliver rods are bad ass

 

[lasthope05]

FWIW, I have turbotuffs, and I turn my car close to 10000 in first and second. Rod bearings look almost new after 2 seasons at 600whp.

Mine was the complete opposite. I was swapping rod bearings every other season, but my car was a dedicated drag car. Every time the motor was started it was seeing 9500+ down the track. Only street duty was some initial tuning and grudge matches.

Im running an aluminum rod motor now for this season so things are a little different.

Either way, I would watch those bearings if your constantly in the upper rpms with heavy rods pindlepiper.

 

[biglady112]

Pauters here. And I have pushed mine very hard. And looking to go over 1000hp in my new car with them. Very tough rod with zero issues.

 

[motomattx]

Pauters have the highest hp rating from what I remember. I use the Pauters personally and I think they are the best thing going.

 

[turbotalon1g]

Have you considered howard rods?