Installed my evo 8 front mount [Merged 7-8] ic intercooler fmic

[tlip93tsi]

If anyone out there has tried this; How hard is it to fit an EVO V Intercoler, and how much of a difference did it make?

 

[wishihadatalon]

What's wrong with the BOV placement, I have something similar except mine is mounted on the hotside as to not discharge cooled air. Just wondering what your thoughts are?

Thanks.

Um? it will discharge all of the air no matter where it is placed, not just the hot air.

 

[L2RTSiAWD]

Thread title edited.

 

[dsmsucks]

I don't understand why people are throwing this intercooler on there cars. Theres a reason why the EVO8 guys are taking them off.

I know why
I have a jdm evo8 fmic on my car. Look at me Im cool

 

[blcknspo0ln]

Simple. Evo 8 FMIC > stock SMIC. What's there not to understand? Not everyone wants a huge FMIC to support their 16G when an Evo 8 FMIC will do the job for half the cost.

 

[wishihadatalon]

Simple. Evo 8 FMIC > stock SMIC. What's there not to understand? Not everyone wants a huge FMIC to support their 16G when an Evo 8 FMIC will do the job for half the cost.

Agreed. Besides the pipe setup on the car in the first picture looks pretty good.

 

[staticbrainwash]

^^ I agree, too bad there isn't a 1g kit *hint hint*.

So what would be the approximate cost of this project, and is it going to be more widely produced, or just a "we told you we could do it" thing?

If it were a kit, i would like to see the BOV placed more towards the TB though, but still leave room for a gm maf if necessary.

 

[blcknspo0ln]

That most definitely is a custom job. If those are mig welds, I'm sure any custom tuner shop can fab something up.

 

[daren_p]

Sure.

After the throttle plate closes, pressure would have to build up that far through the piping in order for the valve to open. The farther back the bov is, the slower it would be venting the excess pressure. Pressure spikes begin a few inches before the TB, so thats the optimal placement.

Having yours on the hot side of the intercooler you have to wait even longer for the air to build up all the way through the piping and intercooler, then to open the BOV and escape. Form your own opinion on if this is ok or not.

Any real race car I've seen has had the BOV near the TB. I figure they've done all the real science and real life testing on the topic.

Well I have never taken the HKS SSQV apart so Im not 100% sure how they operate as they claim it opens by a change in pressure, which may just be their way of saying when the pressure port see's VAC it opens, like your typical valve would(even though the physical layout is still backwards compared to most BOV's). But the further back on the IC pipe a normal valve is, wouldn't make it slower, its the VAC line connected to the bov that determines how fast it blows off, but I guess your right to an extent as the VAC would be much longer with the valve located there. The actual time it takes for a BOV to blow off if the VAC line is a foot or 5 feet is probably very minimal as there isn't much volume in a VAC line but I have no proof either way.

Looks like a great upgrade for those that don't want/need/afford a full blown FMIC kit

 

[HTP]

We will be producing a kit at around $350. This will include all couplers, clamps & brackets to make it work. Piping is stainless and tig welded, with BOV in stock location. This set-up was made for a customer requesting that location. This is not spam as im not advertising this, i am just answering the question of how much.

Matt

 

[staticbrainwash]

So 350 and we have to supply the core?

 

[1stGenRocks]

looks pretty slick. any pictures with the bumper on for reference?

 

[denniegst]

but under 350 you can get that infamous ebay ic kit thought =\

 

[WatchItExplode]

350 sounds like a good price to me since I have lots of Evo friends who would sell me a stock intercooler for cheap. If the kit were for a 1g, i'd be all over it.

 

[PieEyedPiper]

In light of the ebay FMIC kit that seems to rock our collective socks, I'd say $350 is steep if you still have to aquire the core. You're almost doubling the price for half the performance.

 

[wishihadatalon]

In light of the ebay FMIC kit that seems to rock our collective socks, I'd say $350 is steep if you still have to aquire the core. You're almost doubling the price for half the performance.

Um? An evo core isn't inefficient with a 16g. Its also oem quality so you know it will last forever. Just because you are cheap doesn't mean you should say that it doesn't perform.

I would also like to see finished pics.

 

[97gssleeper]

I'd like to see a kit with just the piping for a T-25/28. Like previously stated, the IC can be found for pretty cheap. Heck, I'd even be interested if the uic pipe went to the stock IC location since I already have hard piping to that location. I thought about the ebay deal but I really want to keep my fogs.

 

[JayRolla]

You can customize some fogs right in. The ebay kit is cheaper and has a larger core. What can the evo8 core hold 350whp max.

 

[larsrya8]

The ebay kit is cheaper and has a larger core. What can the evo8 core hold 350whp max.

There's more to consider than just the size of the core. Like how much air it can actually flow, pressure drop, and efficiency.

If that 350HP quote is true, the Evo8 core would still work perfectly for any 16G application.

 

[Stapl3]

Pruven tested the Evo 8 FMIC.

"The factory intercooler on the Evolution is good for about 285 wheel hp"
-Pruven

So basically it's junk. And don't bother posting people that made more than that with it, I don't care. I'll just reply with links to people running 10's on stock engines and 14b's.


I don't see how 350 dollar piping kits for a poor FMIC can compete with complete kits on eBay that perform better for less money.

 

[larsrya8]

Pruven tested the Evo 8 FMIC.

"The factory intercooler on the Evolution is good for about 285 wheel hp"
-Pruven

So basically it's junk. And don't bother posting people that made more than that with it, I don't care. I'll just reply with links to people running 10's on stock engines and 14b's.

Here's a link to Pruven's page on that. Of course, it's coming from someone who wants to sell you something, so get those grains of salt ready.

 

[Black95TSIawd]

Pruven tested the Evo 8 FMIC.

"The factory intercooler on the Evolution is good for about 285 wheel hp"
-Pruven

So basically it's junk. And don't bother posting people that made more than that with it, I don't care. I'll just reply with links to people running 10's on stock engines and 14b's.


I don't see how 350 dollar piping kits for a poor FMIC can compete with complete kits on eBay that perform better for less money.

Just something that comes to mind and possibly up for discussion, but almost all of us has seen the evo FQ cars in Great Brittain on the top gear show. The one evo with 400hp, fq400, did keep up with and eventually pass the lamborghini on their roadcoarse. Now, heatsoak would prove to be a terrible thing when your going WOT for a lot more than just few seconds like on a drag strip, but this evo didn't seem to lose steam. So, my arguement is, that evo didnt seem to lose steam? So is this 285whp thing true? There are also many evo's in the 11's on pumpgas with stock turbos and stock intercoolers. I would venture to say that the intercooler is damn near perfectly sized for about 350 to 375whp, which is definately the majority in the dsm world.

 

[Rice Over Wheat]

Intercoolers aren't exactly high tech. I couldn't possibly see paying $350 just for the piping for a fmic that small. 16G might be good for now, until it feels too slow for you like it inevitably will, and then you'll outgrow it with any higher flowing turbo.

I don't think a stock piece is anything to be impressed by.

 

[PieEyedPiper]

Um? An evo core isn't inefficient with a 16g. Its also oem quality so you know it will last forever. Just because you are cheap doesn't mean you should say that it doesn't perform.

I would also like to see finished pics.

Um? I didnt say it doesn't perform. I said it's half the intercooler the XS power/AGP intercooler is.
Even if I was swimming in Ben Franklin's I still woudln't pay $350 for pipes. Call that "cheap" if you must.

Intercoolers aren't exactly high tech. I couldn't possibly see paying $350 just for the piping for a fmic that small. 16G might be good for now, until it feels too slow for you like it inevitably will, and then you'll outgrow it with any higher flowing turbo.

I don't think a stock piece is anything to be impressed by.

Pruven tested the Evo 8 FMIC.

"The factory intercooler on the Evolution is good for about 285 wheel hp"
-Pruven

So basically it's junk. And don't bother posting people that made more than that with it, I don't care. I'll just reply with links to people running 10's on stock engines and 14b's.


I don't see how 350 dollar piping kits for a poor FMIC can compete with complete kits on eBay that perform better for less money.

I agree it is probably perfect for a 16g, and a 20g/50 trim or larger would probably not be very suitable.

 

[2GturboTALON]

The only thing about people sayign the evo intercooler sucks is that how do you know ebay intercooles are better? I havent seen any ebay intercoolers truly tested.

 

[PieEyedPiper]

The only thing about people sayign the evo intercooler sucks is that how do you know ebay intercooles are better? I havent seen any ebay intercoolers truly tested.

Ever seen a review of the AGP FMIC?
Same deal.
but I agree, not all ebay ic's are created equal.