HTA68 vs HTA Green

[rvaughn]

^+1 I have subscribed as well.

 

[danl]

68 hta wheel is smaller than 20g wheel. you cant upgrade a 20g to 68hta.

Put the hta evo wheels into the 20g cover

 

[JusMX141]

I for one would like a tdo5h 20g with a 52-55 pound compressor in it.

You can do it, but you'll probably never see enough turbine flow to support a compressor that large...so in the end all you'll gain is lag.

Biggest we ever ran on the 5H was the old 46trim T04E wheel, even then it didnt really run any better than a 20g 5H did.

Most would say there is a improvement even with the 20g wheel in running a turbine larger than a 5H, thats just a lot of inlet area and not a lot of outlet area. the 20g 6 or 20g 6H works well. And the more modern 6H4 with 11 blades works even better.

Anything you run with a 5H is gonna have to work well at really high shaft speed, so think small diameter high flow high speed compressor when you look to a 5H turbine for power.

 

[Michael@FP]

Ok so looked into the upgrade option of a EVO III 16G to a 68HTA and we can do those.

It would cost $700 for this upgrade which includes your standard rebuild, new compressor wheel, and machining of your compessor housing and bearing housing to fit the larger wheel.

-Michael

 

[gofer]

Michael,

When you mentioned having a 71HTA available with a 8cm hotside, 5H turbine wheel, and 84mm surge cover was this for the DSM or for the Evo?

If it's for a DSM what would it cost?

 

[Michael@FP]

Michael,

When you mentioned having a 71HTA available with a 8cm hotside, 5H turbine wheel, and 84mm surge cover was this for the DSM or for the Evo?

If it's for a DSM what would it cost?

I was speaking for the DSM's.

The price for a DSM 71HTA would be $1299 internally or externally gated.

-Michael

 

[LaserRS92]

What style compressor cover would this 71HTA have?

 

[Michael@FP]

What style compressor cover would this 71HTA have?

If you want something in between I can build you a 71HTA w/ an 84MM surge ported compressor cover, 8CM hot side and a 5H wheel.

-Michael

-Michael

 

[gofer]

I was speaking for the DSM's.

The price for a DSM 71HTA would be $1299 internally or externally gated.

-Michael

Wow. That's cheaper than the 68HTA, is the 8cm housing on it a Mitsu hotside off of a Starion 14g modified to bolt onto a DSM o2 housing?

Interested to see a few DSMer's get one of these and see how they perform!

 

[Michael@FP]

Wow. That's cheaper than the 68HTA, is the 8cm housing on it a Mitsu hotside off of a Starion 14g modified to bolt onto a DSM o2 housing?

Interested to see a few DSMer's get one of these and see how they perform!

No it's our own cast 8CM housing.

It's cheaper because we don't have to source EVO III 16G's before building them. These turbos have been very popular in the EVO world for a while for stock replacements and most of the guys running these have no problem hitting the 400WHP mark and a few in the upper 400's with a little bit of effort.

We just started building standard rotation 71HTA wheels and were targeting the subaru community with them but figured you DSMr's could use something like this as well. I don't have a product page for it yet but if you want one you can e-mail or call me and I can get one built for you.

- Michael

 

[gofer]

If I didn't already have the 68 I'd be very interested, however, I just had Justin modify a 8cm BEP hotside to work on the HTA68 and I'm curious to see how it performs.

 

[TJCTalon]

Any way we can just purchase your 8cm hotside, compressor cover and 71hta wheel?

 

[LaserRS92]

So this will be in a TD06 downfiring housing rather than a stock appearing TD05?

 

[Michael@FP]

Any way we can just purchase your 8cm hotside, compressor cover and 71hta wheel?

No we do not sell our proprietary parts separately.

So this will be in a TD06 downfiring housing rather than a stock appearing TD05?

That is correct.

Thanks,

-Michael

 

[ulitka]

Ok so looked into the upgrade option of a EVO III 16G to a 68HTA and we can do those.

It would cost $700 for this upgrade which includes your standard rebuild, new compressor wheel, and machining of your compessor housing and bearing housing to fit the larger wheel.

-Michael

How much without a standard rebuild?

 

[LaserRS92]

Blast, was looking for the next step up in a stock style compressor cover over the 68HTA. When will we be able to send in our Evo3's for conversion?

 

[gofer]

How much without a standard rebuild?

If some of you would read through these threads before asking questions you'd be dangerous.

The price for a DSM 71HTA would be $1299 internally or externally gated.

-Michael

 

[Michael@FP]

Blast, was looking for the next step up in a stock style compressor cover over the 68HTA. When will we be able to send in our Evo3's for conversion?

Today soon enough?

-Michael

 

[ulitka]

If some of you would read through these threads before asking questions you'd be dangerous.

I am not following you. I want to know how much it would cost to convert a brand new 16G to 68HTA without a rebuild service. It should cost less than $700, right?

 

[94awdcoupe]

what is flow rate of 68hta and 71hta? I was under the impression the max flow was actually the same. the taller 71 just gets air moving sooner???

 

[Michael@FP]

I am not following you. I want to know how much it would cost to convert a brand new 16G to 68HTA without a rebuild service. It should cost less than $700, right?

$700 is the cost of the upgrade.

Standard rebuild is $400 + the cost of the new parts and machining necessary to make it work.

what is flow rate of 68hta and 71hta? I was under the impression the max flow was actually the same. the taller 71 just gets air moving sooner???

47LB vs. 51LB a minute.

-Michael

 

[gofer]

I know you keep getting questions but, thought I'd ask one more. Since you're casting a Mitsu flanged 8cm bolt on 5H housing for a DSM will this be available for purchase like the FP30/FP31 hotsides?

THANKS!

 

[Michael@FP]

I know you keep getting questions but, thought I'd ask one more. Since you're casting a Mitsu flanged 8cm bolt on 5H housing for a DSM will this be available for purchase like the FP30/FP31 hotsides?

THANKS!

Sure.

I'll get a price for you on that.

Thanks,

Michael

 

[ulitka]

I am not following you. I want to know how much it would cost to convert a brand new 16G to 68HTA without a rebuild service. It should cost less than $700, right?

Spoke with Robert at FP and asked him above question. Robert stated that if the 16G turbo was in fact brand new in the box never used without any rust from storage, than he would be able to discout the conversion by $100 (price of rebuild kit parts) which would bring total to around $600. It is not as simple as it may sound to do the conversion. Turbo gets blue printed, balanced like four times, machine work, etc... It takes 2.5 hours to do the conversion. Price of a 68HTA compressor wheel is $280, rebuild kit $100, compressor cover machine work $75, bearing cover machine work $15, the rest goes to labor. In my opinion $700 sounds like a resonable price.

 

[JusMX141]

Spoke with Robert at FP and asked him above question. Robert stated that if the 16G turbo was in fact brand new in the box never used without any rust from storage, than he would be able to discout the conversion by $100 (price of rebuild kit parts) which would bring total to around $600. It is not as simple as it may sound to do the conversion. Turbo gets blue printed, balanced like four times, machine work, etc... It takes 2.5 hours to do the conversion. Price of a 68HTA compressor wheel is $280, rebuild kit $100, compressor cover machine work $75, bearing cover machine work $15, the rest goes to labor. In my opinion $700 sounds like a resonable price.

Curious what's getting machined on the center housing if both wheel exducers are 68mm.