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Camshaft Identification Information

Posted by BogusSVO, May 3, 2012

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  1. BogusSVO

    BogusSVO Proven Member

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    This thread is for tech info/data only. If you do not have anything to contribute that will help others identify what camshafts they have, please do not post. If you do have helpful info, please make sure to upload your pictures to the site so they will not be lost. Posting data without pictures is only partially helpful, so please try and get pictures when possible.

    Please follow the steps in this thread for posting camshaft lift info.
    http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/art...-how-figure-camshafts-lift.html#post153121578

    Brian Crower 272 Part number BC0101

    Right out the box.
    IMG_1290.jpg

    spec sheet
    IMG_1292.jpg

    The intake cam has a single white band

    The exhaust cam has 2 blue stripes
    IMG_1296.jpg

    You can see the cam blank number in the last pic (Upside down)
    ES4604
     
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  2. BogusSVO

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    Rocker ratio of 1.7:1 was used to figure net lift
    Cam lift X 1.7 = Net lift


    Stock cams
    "B" cam
    IMG_0800.jpg

    Base circle 1.178
    Toe 1.372
    Cam lift .194
    Net lift .3298

    "C" Cam
    IMG_0802.jpg

    Base circle 1.180
    Toe 1.372
    Cam lift .192
    Net lift .3264

    "F" Cam
    IMG_0804.jpg

    Base circle 1.178
    Toe 1.371
    Cam lift .193
    Net lift .3281


    "I" Cam
    IMG_0806.jpg

    Base circle 1.180
    Toe 1.386
    Cam lift .206
    Net lift .350


    "J" Cam
    IMG_0808.jpg

    Base circle 1.180
    Toe 1.396
    Cam lift .216
    Net lift .3672

    "K" Cam
    IMG_0810.jpg

    Base circle 1.180
    Toe 1.372
    Cam lift .192
    Net lift .3264


    Unmarked- Smoother casting cam
    IMG_0812.jpg

    Looks stock, Hyundai or Kia ?
    R7 On the back of the Exhaust cam
    R1 on the back of the Intake cam

    Base circle 1.180
    Toe 1.395
    Cam lift .215
    Net lift .3655


    "GB 201" Cam
    IMG_0814.jpg

    Base circle 1.180
    Toe 1.373
    Cam lift .193
    Net lift .3281


    Kelford Cam
    ** NOTE** NOT all cams from Kelford with have "Kelford" cast into the blank.
    More info found in this thread
    http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/cyl...49185-help-me-id-kelford-272-cams-please.html
    IMG_0818.jpg

    Green stripe on Intake cam
    Yellow stripe on Exhaust cam
    IMG_0819.jpg

    Base circle 1.180
    Toe 1.432
    Cam lift .252
    Net lift .4284



    HKS Cam
    DSCF6313.jpg
    Etched cam grinder markings on the wrench hex of the cam

    DSCF6318.jpg
    I cam 264, E cam 272
    M006 is the E cam
    M003 is the I cam

    Base circle I 1.181 E 1.182
    Toe 1.414 1.401
    Cam lift .233 .219
    Net lift .396 .372

    HKS cam specs1.jpg
    Thanks to 007jimmy for orginally posting the above chart.




    FP/Comp
    Etched into the cam
    I Cam
    101-201-8I
    UX5137-07
    IMG_1302.jpg
    Base circle 1.182
    Toe 1.420
    Cam Lift .238
    Net Lift .405

    E Cam
    101-202-8E
    UX5177-07
    IMG_1303.jpg
    Base circle 1.184
    Toe 1.416
    Cam lift .232
    Net lift .394


    2G Cams ( From a cust head, IDK if they have ever been swapped from another)
    GE

    IMG_1286.jpg
    I Cam
    143
    IMG_1288.jpg

    Base circle 1.185
    Toe 1.372
    Cam lift .187
    Net lift .318


    E Cam
    151
    IMG_1287.jpg
    Base circle 1.185
    Toe 1.372
    Cam lift .190
    Net lift .323
     

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  3. BogusSVO

    BogusSVO Proven Member

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    FFWD-DKS 272

    IMG_1312.jpg

    Notice the thin red stripe towards the front and a thicker blue stripe at the rear of the cam.
    IMG_1314.jpg
    The cams are engraved with "272" on the front face.
    IMG_1317.jpg

    For other markings , was only found on the Intake cam
    GB
    IMG_1318.jpg
    And 274
    IMG_1319.jpg

    Base circle I 1.093 E 1.100
    Toe 1.323 1.317
    Cam lift .230 .217
    Net lift .391 .369



    Note
    Seems the stock base circle falls between 1.175-1.185.
    Regrind cams seem to be in the 1.120 range.
    The FFWD-DKS have the smallest base circle I have measured to date.
     
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  4. snowborder714

    snowborder714 Moderator

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    Here's a document I've put together with some camshaft specs (from the manufacturer - not measured by me). If anyone can find more to add, please feel free to do so.

    Camshaft Specs
     

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  5. vannaksgsx

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    This is great. I was just wondering/hoping that someone already started a resource like this.

    To all, please post the brand and model of the cams, followed by pics or describe the markings found on them. It would be extremely helpful to the community to have a single thread to go to, to help them identify their cams. I hope everyone will jump on the wagon and start posting. I'll upload my pics asap. I think I have Webcams.
     

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  6. BogusSVO

    BogusSVO Proven Member

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    Just pulled these today.

    IMG_1409.jpg


    Intake and Exhaust have the same specs.

    Base Circle 1.181
    Toe 1.395
    Cam Lift .214
    Net Lift .3638
     
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  7. hotrodssnova

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    You can add these to the top post if you want. These markings are on the cam gear side by the first cap.
     

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    Not delta's..No real etchings or id, but white paint..
     

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  9. BogusSVO

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    I have 2 diffrent Hyundai heads, I has the 1g sized intake runners, the other has the 2g intake runner size.

    I forget which cams cam out what head.

    "Circle D" Cams
    IMG_1412.jpg

    Intake Exhaust
    Base circle 1.181 1.182
    Toe 1.395 1.385
    Cam Lift .214 .203
    Net Lift .3638 .345


    This set has smaller letters cast into it than the factory Mitsu cams
    IMG_1414.jpg

    Intake "E" cam Exhaust "A" cam
    Base Circle 1.181 1.180
    Toe 1.392 1.372
    Cam lift .211 .192
    Net Lift .3587 .3264
     
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  10. BogusSVO

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  11. BogusSVO

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    Came across this today,

    Posted by Mysticj, and reposted by Whe3ls, and larvaman

     
  12. 007jimmy

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    Here are some photos of the Graveyard Motorsports 274 cams.
    According to their site: 200 duration @ .050 .408 lift

    CD6A364F-937C-4F49-A35C-4F709C9F7FF1-9014-00000ECF54AD2C50.jpg
    Solid light green paint in the center of the cams.

    Intake Cam:
    96BB1DE8-7470-4938-929E-1BB26E9EC399-9014-00000ECF5B267938.jpg
    "26 2" notice the red paint line? We will come back to this...

    D2D529CB-E290-49FC-8452-6DA46FA58389-9014-00000ECF6DD5626A.jpg
    "L" or "7" depending on what way you look at it.

    C561380E-762F-44A8-A9B3-E9816236EE75-9014-00000ECF67EF85C3.jpg
    E6DE44EC-F14A-46FE-A0FA-6217ADF73161-9014-00000ECF624BEC9E.jpg

    Exhaust Cam:
    B8651612-F547-4315-9A6F-B90D049AD5FB-9014-00000ECF8924E628.jpg
    CDC2549B-3905-46D5-AFC1-FBF6944F9962-9014-00000ECF9196142A.jpg

    No other clear markings on the exhaust side.
    7318B400-8D6C-489F-89DA-9245ACA94CF9-7617-00000D571A90CB3B.jpg
    "GM 274" engraved behind the cam gears.
    Now the intake cam had the red paint on it which leads me to believe this was another aftermarket cam size already because the previous engraved number was ground off.
    13AAB239-CCCB-4F40-AFB5-4C1082F20244-9014-00000ECF97602E95.jpg
    You can see a tiny bit of the previous engraving on the right side of the dowel..
    :hmm: Well, they are regrinds after all.
     

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  13. DSMnoobsause

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    Stock cams with L or 7.

    1.1795
    1.3945
    .215
    Lift .365
     

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  14. BogusSVO

    BogusSVO Proven Member

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    Originally posted by BastardDSM

    http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/cylinder-head-short-block/464400-delta-hks272-regrind-info.html



     
  15. AllanL

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    This is 4-year old thread, but the info is still useful.

    Anyway, here's an update on how to 'correctly' identify which stock cams you may have...

    The letter IDs near the cam gears are not the correct cam IDs.

    The workshop manual indicates that the cam ID letters are stamped on the rear of the cam, meaning the CAS side of the cam.

    I just validated this as I have a set of cams embossed with 'G' on the cam gear side, but had 'F' on the CAS side of the cam.

    Actual measurements of the 'G' cam validates it to be 'F" based on the list provided by mysticj @ 4g61t, and quoted by Dale above.

    Here are the 'real' G cams from a Galant AMG...

    Galant AMG cams.png
     
  16. Kryndon

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    Why do they make cam identification so difficult?! I've got these in my car and I'm pretty sure they aren't stock since it always sounded somewhat cammed. My Exhaust Cam is stamped with G and 4 dots, and the number "222" also stamped on the back of it, however it has a long number stamped on the actual rear of it and the letter "J" (seen in the pictures). My Intake Cam is stamped "H" with 6 dots, and 292" but has no other stamps on the shaft rear. Can anyone ID them?

    INTAKE:
    Base circle 1.185
    Toe 1.378
    Cam lift .193
    Net lift .3280

    EXHAUST:
    Base circle 1.181
    Toe 1.374
    Cam lift .193
    Net lift .3280


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  17. calvs2

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    Help , why kind of car use this camshaft?
    In with "K" ,Ex with "L".
    Or "K" and "L" original from which engine?
     

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  18. 1990TSIAWDTALON

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    Post #2, 12 and 13 have those letters on them but they aren't saying what they came out of, but a 4g63T obviously.
     

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  19. calvs2

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    is jasma 272 camshaft batter than my?
    My camshaft is mix, not original evo3.
    One is "k" in other one is "L" Ex.
     

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