What did you do to your DSM today?

[Dannyrampage1]

I just picked up a 1GA front and rear bumper covers the hood and a driveshaft as well

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[chrisman287]

AEM 3.5 bar installed

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[Tiki2777]

Finally started wiring with the new pieces and bits I bought in January. New ECU/Engine Harness in the works....

 

[diambo4life]

Weight.


S1 Billet viscous coupler installed in the driveshaft.

Is it like what the Honda AWD swap folks do? Never really dove into the mechanics of how it all works.

 

[chrisman287]

Car show with some friends

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[jdxnc]

Is it like what the Honda AWD swap folks do? Never really dove into the mechanics of how it all works.

Exactly, with the PPG dogbox, it's a spool instead of a center diff so the front and rear are locked 100%, leads to lots of drivetrain breakage down the line, adding the viscous takes up a lot of the shock and saves parts and makes the launch more predictable.

 

[92AWDHX40]

hooked up the 1 wire altenator, stripped the roof, adjusted my bc coil overs. thats my day

 

[Dannyrampage1]

More shit to my.pile a pairs of gender braces

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[babyviper]

Exactly, with the PPG dogbox, it's a spool instead of a center diff so the front and rear are locked 100%, leads to lots of drivetrain breakage down the line, adding the viscous takes up a lot of the shock and saves parts and makes the launch more predictable.

There is a 4 spider center diff option for the PPG gear set. The spool isn't the only option. I got the 4 spider in my Spyder, picked it up from Magnus back in 2018. That's all they had in stock at the time.

 

[jdxnc]

There is a 4 spider center diff option for the PPG gear set. The spool isn't the only option. I got the 4 spider in my Spyder, picked it up from Magnus back in 2018. That's all they had in stock at the time.

Yup there is but it still uses the OEM viscous coupler, which at the power levels I'm at, is not strong enough. Also, it still uses the OEM spider gears, which high power users have broken, sending shrapnel into a $6000 gearset.

 

[babyviper]

Yup there is but it still uses the oem viscous coupler, which at the power levels I'm at, is not strong enough. Also, it still uses the oem spider gears, which high power users have broken, sending shrapnel into a $6000 gearset.

Yeah, I really wish they made a real diff, like a cusco or kaaz center diff fit the PPG.

 

[diambo4life]

Exactly, with the PPG dogbox, it's a spool instead of a center diff so the front and rear are locked 100%, leads to lots of drivetrain breakage down the line, adding the viscous takes up a lot of the shock and saves parts and makes the launch more predictable.

Very nice. Good luck with it and update us on how it performs. Are you the first to do this in a DSM?

 

[jdxnc]

Very nice. Good luck with it and update us on how it performs. Are you the first to do this in a DSM?

No, a couple of the quickest DSM and EVO currently are running them.

 

[Tiki2777]

Yup there is but it still uses the OEM viscous coupler, which at the power levels I'm at, is not strong enough. Also, it still uses the OEM spider gears, which high power users have broken, sending shrapnel into a $6000 gearset.

What's the general path between the spool and the OEM option, just a welded center?

 

[shad0wsoda]

Drove the car about 80 miles round trip to a cars and coffee this weekend and met up with another member of the Rocky Mountain DSM group and his track focused 1g

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[MindBlowin03]

Finally got the new head unit and rolling anti lag switch installed. Everything is tested and works so pretty stoked.

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[jdxnc]

What's the general path between the spool and the OEM option, just a welded center?

I'll say 99% of people with a PPG dogbox go with the spool and just build the shit out of the rest of the drivetrain and keep their fingers cross that everything down the line from the trans holds up.

If you're on an oem gearbox, 4 spider and welded are the only 2 options. I've done welded on a street car and wouldn't recommend it to anyone. A well done 4 spider will handle anything the oem gears can handle.

Back when I was on oem gears and a 4 spider, stock tcase, stock axles, stock driveshaft, I was regularly cutting low 1.6x, high 1.5x 60' , doing mid 10's @ 130ish mph, back to back, car never broke a thing. Once I installed the dogbox with the spool I broke rear axles first, upgraded those, then I broke 4 tcases in a row(never broke a single one before that), upgraded tcase, broke oem ujoints, replaced the driveshaft and upgraded to 1310 series u-joints, now I break rear diffs occasionally. There needs to be some slip between the front and rear in an AWD if it's to survive long term, I'm hoping this is the ticket. Goal is to do and even without trashing $1000+ in drivetrain parts and be working on it constantly.

 

[2GbTalonGuy]

Took her out for the first drive of the season!

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[Furiyous]

Finally got the new valve cover installed with new gaskets/seals, new spark plugs, and new bolt set.

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[DreamChaser7]

If you're on an oem gearbox, 4 spider and welded are the only 2 options.

I wonder what the best options will be with the Neat gearset whenever it’s finally is released…?

 

[jdxnc]

I wonder what the best options will be with the Neat gearset whenever it’s finally is released…?

I'd still go with a 4-spider.

 

[92AWDHX40]

Well i got my 4 spider finally built should hold up to my street goals.

 

[Pjj]

I'll say 99% of people with a PPG dogbox go with the spool and just build the shit out of the rest of the drivetrain and keep their fingers cross that everything down the line from the trans holds up.

If you're on an oem gearbox, 4 spider and welded are the only 2 options. I've done welded on a street car and wouldn't recommend it to anyone. A well done 4 spider will handle anything the oem gears can handle.

Back when I was on oem gears and a 4 spider, stock tcase, stock axles, stock driveshaft, I was regularly cutting low 1.6x, high 1.5x 60' , doing mid 10's @ 130ish mph, back to back, car never broke a thing. Once I installed the dogbox with the spool I broke rear axles first, upgraded those, then I broke 4 tcases in a row(never broke a single one before that), upgraded tcase, broke oem ujoints, replaced the driveshaft and upgraded to 1310 series u-joints, now I break rear diffs occasionally. There needs to be some slip between the front and rear in an AWD if it's to survive long term, I'm hoping this is the ticket. Goal is to do and even without trashing $1000+ in drivetrain parts and be working on it constantly.

did you ever do no lift to shift? what boost level/rpm on the launch back when you were doing mid 10s?

 

[Kid Boost]

Finally got the new valve cover installed with new gaskets/seals, new spark plugs, and new bolt set.

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Nice.....its looks almost like my valve cover. I just have an fittings on mine and shaved the lines flat.

Well i got my 4 spider finally built should hold up to my street goals.

When I got my transmission built I got 4 spider and its been great...cant complain.

 

[jdxnc]

did you ever do no lift to shift? what boost level/rpm on the launch back when you were doing mid 10s?

Every single shift. 20 psi on the leave at 6250 2-step, running out to 40 psi.

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