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1G turbo from a flood, repairable?

Posted by pieceofcloth, Nov 25, 2019

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  1. pieceofcloth

    pieceofcloth Proven Member

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    I picked up a vehicle this past weekend that was in a flood. I'm not sure how high the water got. Are turbos generally repairable? There is minor play and it spins smoothly. Is anyone familiar with rebuilding turbos? Can any of you recognize this piece? Thank you in advance. Photo Nov 25, 2 05 22 PM.jpg Photo Nov 25, 2 03 54 PM.jpg
     

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  2. motomattx

    motomattx Proven Member

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    Looks like either a Holset or some type of 50 trim, rebuilding it or tossing it depends on the brand, if its Chinese toss it.
     

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  3. pieceofcloth

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    I'll try to pull the motor this weekend & see if I can find some markings within. I could use a Holset
     

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  4. silvreclips

    silvreclips Proven Member

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    Was there water in the oil? The turbo may be fine the way it is. Clean out the compressor housing maybe. The oil system is sealed for the most part unless water got in the oil.
     
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  5. pieceofcloth

    pieceofcloth Proven Member

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    I just pulled the vehicle home Saturday & gutted it today. I'm cleaning the garage out tomorrow so I can bring the vehicle inside and strip down the motor/accessories. When I turned it by hand, I was expecting a rough or sandpaper feel because of the situation the vehicle was in, but it turned very smoothly. I only spun it lightly, & once and with no power behind it, because I feel you shouldn't just go around spinning it like crazy. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't seized. I read up and seen how people rebuild turbos. It looks fairly simple, except I can't balance the shaft myself. I can only replace whatever seals or parts necessary.
     

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  6. 1990TSIAWDTALON

    1990TSIAWDTALON Moderator

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    Squirt some oil in the oil feed for good measure and spin it so it has fresh lube. It may be just fine. Looks like a knockoff Holset turbo to me. I'd run it and if it gave me problems, I'd pull it and do a rebuild or send it to a reputable rebuilder.
     

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  7. pieceofcloth

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    Sorry about the delayed update. I pulled the motor & dissembled everything. I am able to salvage the build so I've been focused on getting that going. Here are three pics of the turbo off the vehicle. It looks like a BullsEye Brand model S362. Anyone with personal experience ? I'm going to take it apart & see how everything looks within. Thank you guys for all Photo Dec 03, 10 27 15 PM.jpg Photo Dec 03, 10 26 51 PM.jpg Photo Dec 03, 10 26 05 PM.jpg yalls input/help :hellyeah:
     

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  8. BLACK'98DSM

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    According to my research, that's a very pricey turbo. I'd say it's worth rebuilding/using!
     

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  9. 1990TSIAWDTALON

    1990TSIAWDTALON Moderator

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    If Justin, @JusMX141, were on here, he would verify that it is a Borg Warner S362. I don't know if they have rebuild "kits" or have to go back to the manufacturer but he would know. I haven't seen any posts from him in quite a while, but he is a turbo specialist
     

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  10. BLACK'98DSM

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    The S362 stand for 62 mm. It is part of the S series. It has a cast compressor wheel, and can support up to 650 hp. It has a 4 inch inlet.

    This is the info I was able to gather about it.
     

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  11. pieceofcloth

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    I'll send him a message & will email the company to see what they have to offer. I used a light brass bristle on this harbor freight hand held dremel tool. I didn't apply pressure, I just let the stuff fling off. And on the blades I used some qtips to wipe the surface but everything seemed to smooth out. I was suggested to pour some oil within the feed but I'm not sure which type I should throw in there. I'd love to send it in, but I'm not looking forward to a 400$+ ticket. Especially if i'm able to replace the seals myself. first 2 are after pics - last 2 pics are before :idontknow: : thanks again :hellyeah: Photo Dec 04, 1 56 29 PM.jpg Photo Dec 04, 1 56 11 PM.jpg Photo Dec 04, 10 20 14 AM.jpg Photo Dec 04, 10 20 01 AM.jpg
     

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  12. pieceofcloth

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    mann, thank you so much for that. I appreciate you bro, foreal :hellyeah:
     

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  13. pieceofcloth

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    with a quick search, i found a couple of folks selling kits. I think i'll go ahead and order me one. my mind is so tied up with the motor build, i didn't even think about a rebuild kit for this turbine. mann i feel dumb LOL
     

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  14. 1990TSIAWDTALON

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    Just squirt a bit of oil into that elbow fitting to lube the journals. Or on the opposite side (bottom) is the drain and you can put a tad in there. I mainly wanted you to get just a little lube on the brass journals :)
    Let gravity do its thing.
    You basically have THIS...maybe a little better :shhh:

    My finger is pointing at the oil feed.
    15755018390366896369721897327639.jpg 15755018958602510871466380674569.jpg
     

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  15. pieceofcloth

    pieceofcloth Proven Member

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    oil has been squirted : Is that going in the Saturn? :D Thanks for all your help Marty, you the man
     

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  16. 1990TSIAWDTALON

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    Nah, I'll throw a Super 99 on it..............ROFL
     

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  17. pieceofcloth

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    dayum LOL : so you do have plans :ninja:

    I ordered the kit btw, thanks again for all yalls help:hellyeah: : salute Marty
     

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  18. 1990TSIAWDTALON

    1990TSIAWDTALON Moderator

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    Oh I was just teasin ya. My Saturn is a true daily driver and definitely under powered. I have heard of a fellow in Wichita that was throwing a 150 shot of NO2 to one and it lasted 2 years with that. The bottom ends on the Saturn 2.0 is very cool with full floating pistons and a nice big main girdle from the factory. I was amazed when I tore it down to rebuild it at 260k. Has 283k on it now, and is very reliable. I drove the stock GSX to work today, just so I could pass cars on the freeway LOL.
     

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