problems with starter and starting my car

[tundra2000]

1st is it wont start if feels like it wants too but it just doesn't and when i do start cranking it over it has a kind of funny grinding noise, in a way it kind of sounds like maybe the water pump is froze and the belt is jumping the teeth on it but i can't tell when i'm in the cab what else do you think it could be? the car is a automatic. and if i crank it for a few seconds the starter stops engaging or something cus it just spins and not spin the motor.
2nd is when i turn the car to on the fuel pump starts but won't stop pumping so i had it on still and looked at the fuel injectors and 1st injector was leaking so i shut turn the car off unbolted the fuel rail took the injector out and clean a bit around the seals put it back in and bolted the fuel rail up and it stop leaking but i heard a hissing sound that sounded like it was coming from the 2nd injector but it also sounded like it was coming from the return fuel line so again i shut it off and pulled the fuel rail off and seen the bottom seal ( don't know if its called the bottom seal ) was broken and i guess i missed that the first time i pulled it off. main point of 2nd problem is would the fuel pump keep going if their was a leak in the fuel return line? and what is the bottom seal of the injector called that seals it to the intake manifold? is it just called a seal? 2nd problem is kind of point less to read. The whole time this is happening the motor doesn't run at all just to make sure u guys know.

 

[RLPerformance]

So the starter is engaging, then disengaging while still cranking? Is this a sudden issue or an ongoing issue? It could simply be a starter solenoid going bad. Could be broken teeth on starter or flywheel. Remove the upper timing cover and verify the cams are turning while cranking. Verify the cam timing is correct.

The fuel pump should never stay running while the key is on and engine is off. Only a 2 second prime. Im under the impression that's what youre asking. Im unsure of how youre just hearing a hissing, but not seeing/smelling gas while cranking. They are called lower seals and all 4 should be replaced as well as the upper o-rings to be sure.

Youre post is very hard to understand with one non-stop sentence. Fix the seals, verify engine turning over and if the pump stays running when the the key is only on and engine not running and get back to us.

 

[EagleTSIawd]

The fuel pump should not turn on if you just put it on the ON position, our cars don't fuel prime. Unless if you have the ECU chipped with something like ecmlink then maybe it's set to turn on when you put it on the ON position.

There is a donut rubber seal that goes on the intake where the injectors plug in. You insert the donut first on the intake then let the injectors squeeze in as you tighten the fuel rail. If the donut is cracked then replace it, you will get a vacuum/boost leak if you don't.

 

[tundra2000]

I help my friend put a 1st gen 7 bolt into his automatic 95 talon. He told me once everything was put in and set to go he got it started for about 5 mins then it died and wouldn't start again, he couldn't figure it out so it was sitting at my place for about 3 months and now i would like to get it started, so when i was looking at it i found the ignition fuse under the hood was blown so i changed it and the car would turn over but not start and it makes a weird noise when it does so i had my brother sit inside and crank it over a few times and as i watched the timing belt and listen it looks like the starter would engage for a sec and then spin freely like its not catching and it will catch again then not catch, to me it seems like teeth are missing on the flexplate but when we swap the motor in the teeth looked good. maybe the bolts are lose on the started i will take a look tomorrow.

 

[dented_coffee]

The teeth are on the torque converter. If there missing then you will be needing a new torque converter. They can be replaced to my knowlege but its cheaper and easyr to just buy a new converter. Make sure you have the dowel pins in the trans when you put the trans back in. If there not you will grind the crap out of the teeth with the hardend steel starter gear, and you will destroy the front pump on the trans. If your getting trans fluid leking on the ground then your front pump seal on the trans has gone bad fromt the shaft of the torque converter wearing into it.

 

[tundra2000]

I got a auto trans 95 talon tsi that me and my friend swap a 1g motor in it and put the turbo on it.

My Starter is acting weird, when i turn the key it sounds like the starter goes but does not engage it just spins fast then sometimes while i turn the key it seems like it try to catch the flexplate but grinds, the starter looks like its bolted tight so i don't know whats really going on, is the starter going out? or is the 2g starter diff from the 1g starter?

So when i turn the key the fuel pump primes but it doesn't stop, so i open the hood and listen and it just comes out the fuel pressure regulator out the return line. How do i fix that? I also have another fuel rail with fuel pressure regulator but the fuel rail and fuel pressure regulator is bigger then the one thats on now, should i just put that one on? Also would the car start if the fuel rail isn't pressurized?

Feels like i might be missing something but if i am let me know.

 

[Jeasen]

Your starter problem sounds like the solenoid is not working properly. The solenoid is what engages the starter into the flywheel when you turn the key over to start the car. You could take the starter off and take it to Auto Zone and they should be able to test it for you.

 

[tundra2000]

I got auto trans 95 talon tsi fwd and when i try to start it, the starter seems to grind on the flexplate so i took the starter out and tested it and it works just fines so what could it be? a starter relay?

 

[95'RS-T]

How does the starter gear look? The starter might work fine but maybe the gear is chewed up on it. Just a suggestion.

 

[zanderson]

Its possible that it has to do with your clutch.

 

[tundra2000]

the starter gear looks good

 

[tundra2000]

Every time i try to start my 95 talon tsi fwd auto tranny it ends up grinding and sometimes it will turn the engine over while it grinds, so i pulled the starter out thinking it was that but the starter is just fine, a few months ago me and my friend put a 1g motor in it, would that have anything to do with the starter?

And then theirs my fuel pump it seems to stay on when i turn the key to on is their a way to fix that? it happen after we swap the 1g in and when the fuel pump stayed on the fuel was coming out the return line so i put a diff fuel rail with fuel pressure regulator which looked bigger but now i don't hear or see any fuel leaking.

 

[Guzman08]

i have the exact same problem.. the starter keeps turning for a bit then turns off. it turns morew when its cold. When my engine is hot and i turn it on it doesnt grind.. idk what it is.. i think it might be the ecu.

 

[Eeeeky]

Check the bolts that hold the transmission to the engine, and tighten the starter down to spec. Make sure the bolts are tight that hold the trans to the engine. I had the same engine, replaced the starter, and the flywheel was good. It ended up being the bolts that hole the two together, were slightly loose. Check those out!

 

[tundra2000]

I think i found out why my starter makes a grinding noise with i try to start my car, i think that when the starter engages it hits the flexplate which makes that grinding noise the slides right past it and spins, but i have no idea were to find starter shims, i looked on napa's website but didn't find anything, anyone know where i can pick one up?

 

[dexterholland04]

I would just buy another starter....problem solved. I have never heard of starter shims before.

 

[nuclearr]

Well first off are you talking about your 95 tsi? Your flex plate can not be touched buy your starter. The teeth are on the torque converter. Now if you have a manual you would be taking about the flywheel.

There are no starter shims for our cars. I would look to see if you still have the starter plate/spacer. If you have it then I would look the starter its self you may have the wrong one in your car. The auto starters are different than the manual ones and the wrong one can cause this type of problem.

I would also look a the flywheel or torque converter for damaged teeth. As well as a damaged sprocket on the starter.

 

[tundra2000]

yeah sorry about that i ment to talk about the torque converter, the starter gear looks good, but i swapped in a 1g into my 95 talon, would that have anything to do with the starter not space right or something?

 

[rhodes2010]

You wrote flexplate so I assume you have an automatic (no clutch, no flywheel).

Removing the inspection cover at the bottom will give you a real good look at the flexplate and let you see the teeth.

What is the history of this car ?
Has it been working fine for a long time and all of a sudden started doing this ?

I am just finishing up a major problem of this exact type.
Tomorrow I install new flywheel and starter to solve my all-of-a-sudden grinding problem.

In our case... the starter plate - the steel plate bolted to the motor that lines
up the starter with the flywheel is the wrong one for this car.
I will hope that all others never have this problem.

If your engine is the original for that car then you are fine.

Ours is definitely not a normal situation, someone used a FWD motor in a AWD car and
used the FWD starter plate , this places our starter in the wrong position for the flywheel.

In your case, did the starter come loose ?
When you went to take it out was it bolted in tight ?

 

[nuclearr]

You swapped a 1g engine in? If so which starter plated did you use? You most likely need the one off the 2g engine they may be different.

But since your starter bolted up sounds like a starter or torque converter issue also check to make sure all 4 transmission bolts are in place and tight.

 

[tundra2000]

So i got a 95 talon tsi fwd with a 1g motor swap in it and i'm using the stock starter that was in with the 2g motor but now that i got a 1g in the starter seems to not catch the torque converter, when i turn the key i will hear the starter grind then spin freely every time and sometimes it will turn the engine just a bit almost every time, so i was thinking maybe the starter gear is going past the torque converter so i put a couple washers inbetween the starter and tranny then i bolt it down and tried it but the starter would only spin and it will barely grind. So now i'm thinking that when i bolt the starter straight to the tranny without washers that the starter gear isn't close enough to the torque converter teeth to grab it and spin it. How do i get it closer to the torque converter so it can grab it? and how do i turn the engine over since i got a auto tranny, i tried putting it in drive but it doesn't turn the engine over at all, do i have to turn it by the crank pulley? and how much do i torque the starter down? i don't want to end up stripping out the bolt holes.

 

[sniver]

You turn the motor over with the 1/2 inch drive in the crank pulley bolt. If you pull the plugs it'll make your lifer easier.

The starter bolts only get torqued to something like 30 ft/lbs, or slightly more than a spark plug if that helps.

If it isn't engaging you have the wrong parts combo. you can't shim these to fit. If its grinding, then its likely you messed up the teeth on the starter ring on the tq converter.

So you have a 1g flex plate,2g fwd t/c, a 2g fwd auto trans, and 1g starter??

 

[tundra2000]

i believe everything we used was from the 2g including the starter. but i pulled the starter out early and tested it and it was fine and the teeth looked good along with the torque converter teeth.

 

[tundra2000]

So when i did a 1g swap into my 95 talon tsi fwd, it got bolted up to my 2g auto tranny with the 2g starter plate but now that every thing is together the starter keeps grinding on the torque converter.....why is it doing that? I also remember when i bolt it to the 2g auto tranny i got 3 of the bolts that bolt to the block and then the two for the starter but when i took the 2g motor out their was a 4th bolt that when below that start that bolted the tranny and block together but when i tried bolting the 1g to the tranny it wouldn't happen, i don't remember what really happen but i think the 1g had a bit different bolt pattern to were i couldn't get the 4th bolt in or their wasn't a spot for the 4th bolt so i left it out. Now would that cause my starter not to catch the torque converter?

 

[19Eclipse90]

That fourth bolt is not the problem: http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/382037-fm531-transmission.html#post152335809

Is your 1G engine a 6 or a 7-bolt?