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New Stock Block Record

Posted by laser90, Nov 6, 2011

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  1. 96awd

    96awd Proven Member

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    Yes, yes it does matter actually. Because it's not the OEM rotating assembly from a 6 bolt 4G63 Talon/Eclipse motor. So please, :shhh:

    Thanks.
     

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  2. camfast

    camfast Proven Member

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    Lol...it doesn't matter what you think, its still impressive from the setup.
     

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  3. gusu

    gusu Proven Member

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    I think it was someone really big like Lucas English or John Shep got called a liar on here as well. Some people just believe people at all.
     
  4. SupremeDsm

    SupremeDsm Proven Member

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    Well with all this debate going on when me and SIM attempt the record we are using the blocks original rotating assembly with 60k miles on it. Im going to have roughly 6 back up blocks because we are going to be blowing up alot of stuff. Lol
     
  5. FenixTX717

    FenixTX717 Proven Member

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    Ok so what the title of this thread needs to be changed, that way all these people wouldn't be getting butt hurt over the subject anymore. Built2Race came clean so everyone calm down.

    To BUILT2RACE, congrats as someone already said, awesome job on pushing stock Evo pistons and rods! It's good to see that those can handle some abuse in our motors.
     

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  6. e85_4g63

    e85_4g63 Proven Member

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    I think we, as a group, need to set up rules for this stock block "record"... Personally, I feel that balance shaft elimination is ok, because everyone does it. Also Using ARP bolts / studs is acceptable, and any OEM replacement piston is allowed. (NPR, OEM, JING JONG LANG from China, etc). Stock crank and rods are a must. Bearings, rings, and gaskets are whatever you decide. Thoughts?

    ***edit*** as long as the piston keeps the compression ratio at stock and is a cast piston with 21mm wrist pin
     

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  7. canada4g63

    canada4g63 Proven Member

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    there nothing wrong with that!
     

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  8. sbiggi

    sbiggi Proven Member

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    Stock block means it came OEM with the parts for that car.

    OEM rods, pistons and bolts. Those are the parts that matter for the rotating assembly to stay together. Upgrade any of that and its not a stock block anymore.

    Car is fast for sure, but not a stock block by any means. Oem evo rod and pisont record or something along those line would be more relavent.
     

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  9. SupremeDsm

    SupremeDsm Proven Member

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    I agree!
     
  10. Built2Race

    Built2Race Probationary Member

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    thanks !!!!

    For me too still a record but not for the judges in this forum ... We are running 38psi

    We really want to be clear with the rules for stock block, could some one post them...
    Cause for some people changing bearing, studs,etc... is ok
    But others say that is not stock because you change the parts of the car, so please lets get clear get the rules and post them so everyone could be clear...

    Thanks!
     
  11. rhamlinii

    rhamlinii Proven Member

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    Not, bad at all sir.
     

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  12. TofastForU_99

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    http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/cyl...-get-clear-what-stock-block-record-rules.html

    Working on it, great idea tho.
     
  13. black91awdturbo

    black91awdturbo Proven Member

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    So what is the current stock block record since this one is clearly outside of it!
     

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  14. diambo4life

    diambo4life Proven Member

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    The DSM record belongs to Mike Rizz from NEDSM. Has 100% stock 6-bolt block sans balance shafts.
    The car in this thread does not qualify since it has EVO VIII components. Whether they are stock or not is irrelevant.
    However, it's still a great run and fete. Congratulations! :)
     
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  15. black91awdturbo

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    Thank you sir..
     

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  16. Built2Race

    Built2Race Probationary Member

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    So is me or there's no rulebook,,, is just you guys saying that is has to be stock with this and that,,, don't get me wrong ok maybe our record is not valid because is with evo stock pistons! But come one! A motor with 100k with stock piston, rods and studs doing 600+hp with No ARP studs because are not stock. Will hold that much punishment be real guys! At least arp studs and more if you are launching the car and shifting over 8,000 rpm!

    Just my 2 cents
     
  17. rrussell

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    Were working on the rules.
    http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/cyl...-get-clear-what-stock-block-record-rules.html

    Major kudos to your setup!!! Its crazy Fast!!!:thumb:
     

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  18. rhamlinii

    rhamlinii Proven Member

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    On that link setup above, the rules were just set and confirmed basically by the current record holder. You have to use stock block, rods, pistons, and stock bolts throughout the motor. BSE, is optional as set by the current record holder. I have to agree with you, it is retarded to build and run a "ticking time bomb". However his Wednesday motor lived to tell the tale, so his 9.98 stands and may stand forever. After this one block blows the hell up. I'm going to put the s400 turbo on my car, and i'm going for 8s with the built motor.
     

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  19. Nate Crisman

    Nate Crisman Proven Member

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    Wicked pass for any oem cast piston and rod, but I have to agree with the rest of the peanut gallery that hybrid bottom end rebuilds (2g pistons, eve pistons, act) that raise compression over a stock 7.8CR OEM 6bolt are an advantage.

    Oh the other hand, if it was a set of stock 8.5CR 2g pistons in a stock 7bolt bottom end...would the comments be any different?

    This is certainly a grey area, and frankly, the cast piston w/ slightly higher compression is FAR less of an advantage compared to BSE kit, ARP head studs, and a good HG, both of which are accepted.
     

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  20. laser90

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    Ostarmotorsports has the record now 9.82@146!
     

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  21. vr4scott

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    There are 2 different stories about ostar from locals here in Orlando. 1 says he is using a JDM completely stock 6 bolt, stock rod bolts and all. The other says it has arp hardware and 2g pistons on 1g rods. I don't know for sure, I'm hoping the former is true.
     
  22. laser90

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    I remember him posting untouched JDM block minus the balance shafts.
     

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  23. OstarMotorsport

    OstarMotorsport Proven Member

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    You better check your sources before you post something like that here. Everyone that knows me,knows that the car is a true stock jdm 6 bolt block and I have worked very hard to get this car to run what it has, so for u or anyone else to come in here and try to stain all of my hard work is just a slap in the F#$^@%^ face. :nono: By the way why dont you call out these so called locals

    By the way it is true ... 9.82@146 on a STOCK 6 BOLT BLOCK ...OH and did I mention it also did it with a ported STOCK intake manifold?
     
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  24. Bricktop

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    Well said.
     
  25. vr4scott

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    Just re-iterating local talk. That last line in my comment said I'm rooting for the JDM option. A true world record breaker. Great job Fernando!
     

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