FPGreen vs. HX35

[bastarddsm]

Same here, except I don't think mine is a pain in the ass, it's actually been a really solid unit. That's all I'm trying for too, run a 10.99 on shitty street tires and then it's time to bolt on the hx40 that's sitting in my garage.

Your running it bolt on tho. The whole twin scroll thing makes it harder. I've got way to much time in building mine. It's one hell of a lot of work to build a manifold and o2 housing that fits really well, and allows the use of one the stock fan. In the past I was running it on a sfp t4 manifold with an adaptor plate. It put the turbo in a really bad place, and it always had fasteners falling out. hopefully my new manifold fixes that and its not a pain in the ass anymore.

 

[JusMX141]

Yeah, its going to be for the galant. I barely have enough room for the green to fit on a full size radiator. If i end up going with the holset, im switching over to a civic 3 row half size radiator.

That changes everything. I would choose the turbo with the best clearance.

Honestly, I'd sell both of them and buy a 68HTA. The TD05H turbine is going to yeild a much sharper torque curve than both the HX35 and the Green (which, to me, looks like a Frank L3, L4, or L5 20G), and there are definitely examples of 400+whp being made with that turbo...but it's probably not going to happen on pump gas unless you're using some meth/water injection.

In your situation where compressor cover size is an issue, the 68HTA is the ticket. If you're running an external gate you can even clock the 68HTA's compressor cover so the outlet faces downward.

 

[-red97rum-]

Your running it bolt on tho. The whole twin scroll thing makes it harder. I've got way to much time in building mine. It's one hell of a lot of work to build a manifold and o2 housing that fits really well, and allows the use of one the stock fan. In the past I was running it on a sfp t4 manifold with an adaptor plate. It put the turbo in a really bad place, and it always had fasteners falling out. hopefully my new manifold fixes that and its not a pain in the ass anymore.

Oh that's right... yeah that does make it rather difficult. I read that earlier too, sorry, was still on my first cup of coffee.

 

[91stocker]

Id go with the hx35 hands down. Like bastarddsm was saying in post #15. The holset gives you alot of room to grow, flowing some 10lbs/min more flow then the 68HTA, with similar spool up. Also about 1/3 the price.

 

[93_tsi_fwd]

Forgot to put that ill be switching over to e85 soon.

 

[JusMX141]

Forgot to put that ill be switching over to e85 soon.

The E85 will definitely allow more power to be made from a smaller turbo by allowing more ragged tuning as knock will not be much of a concern no matter how hot the turbo's air charge will be.

I'd still vote for the 68HTA based on some E85 results I've seen. It will be more streetable than the two options in the title, and definitely get you to your HP goal with E85.

 

[My1GLaser]

I love my HX 35. 7 blade in a BEP bolt-on housing. The best I ran so far was was 11.4@ 122 at 26 psi last Dec. I ran 7.27@101 in the 1/8th last time I dragged it in March. That was on 30-32 psi.

I have been thru a couple trannies and haven't made it back to the 1/4 mile since that run. I am currently running 36psi getting ~50-51lb/min. Full boost at 4k with 60% E-85. It is a mean sounding SOB & the spool characteristics are fantastic. I am sticking with this turbo & switching to the T3 setup soon.

I got it from Justin ^^^. He did a great job building it and I beat the freaking piss out of my car. Its been running hard for 1.5 years now. I will probably send it to him for a rebuild when I switch to T3.

 

[-red97rum-]

The E85 will definitely allow more power to be made from a smaller turbo by allowing more ragged tuning as knock will not be much of a concern no matter how hot the turbo's air charge will be.

I'd still vote for the 68HTA based on some E85 results I've seen. It will be more streetable than the two options in the title, and definitely get you to your HP goal with E85.

^^
Definitely a great choice especially with the fitment issues you're going to encounter on your VR4. The 68HTA will be a true bolt on, spool crazy fast and still makes damn good power up top.

 

[donniekak]

That changes everything. I would choose the turbo with the best clearance.

Honestly, I'd sell both of them and buy a 68HTA. The TD05H turbine is going to yeild a much sharper torque curve than both the HX35 and the Green (which, to me, looks like a Frank L3, L4, or L5 20G), and there are definitely examples of 400+whp being made with that turbo...but it's probably not going to happen on pump gas unless you're using some meth/water injection.

In your situation where compressor cover size is an issue, the 68HTA is the ticket. If you're running an external gate you can even clock the 68HTA's compressor cover so the outlet faces downward.

I had a bolt on hx 40 on my galant vr4, with the stock radiator, and a slim fan. Because of the way it was clocked, a kind of upward firing, i had to dent the water pipe.

 

[93_tsi_fwd]

I would love to give the 68hta a try but i dont see myself spending that much even if i sell both turbos. I got the green cheap cause it needed a rebuild and got the holset from a trade for a 2gb bumper.

I think im leaning towards the holset. I think it could fit in there but its gonna be snug and im going to need slim fans.

Luckily, I took off my AC stuff and im running a 1g mishimoto radiator. 1g rads are shorter so my rad is under the radiator support.

My1GLaser, i sent you a PM.

Hopefully i can get lucky and find a cheap bep bolt on housing.

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(before i get something about the coupler to close to the manifold, It already happened. Lol)

 

[Matos]

I have never use a Fp green , but had run a fp 20g tdo6 back in the days and loved it , Used different turbo since then , tdo5 20g , pte hp 5457 bb , with both 272 and magnus sheet metal intake , and now running the Hx35 freshly rebuilt mated with tial 38 mm wastgate ,stock 1g cams ,intake ,v3 link .
Let me say that I love this turbo , very fast spool up 24 psi a +- 4000 rpm
It spool faster then my bb turbo .

 

[turbo_rookie]

the FP greens bolt right on in place of a 16g an holset does not correct? seems like it would be easier to use the fp green if no other mods were needed due to the fact they have very similar power outputs from what i read here.

 

[BoostedBeaver]

I will not make a poll as I have only had experience with the HX35. I finished my build about 2-3 months ago. The HX35 has great spool time(26lbs by 4200 in 3rd). I am in the bolt-on housing. It does seem to be a restriction so T-3 would be the way to go although this is not a bad start.

I switched to E85 last week due to my knock happy motor and am now out of injector. At 26 it feels good but only 44lbs/min so I know she has more. Good luck and whichever turbo you choose will be fun.

 

[agentorange313]

the FP greens bolt right on in place of a 16g an holset does not correct? seems like it would be easier to use the fp green if no other mods were needed due to the fact they have very similar power outputs from what i read here.

It depends what housing is used with the Holset, Bullseye makes bolt on housing for out DSMs that run either the 35 or 40.

Yes the FP green is a direct bolt on for 1g dsm and 2g using MHI turbo feed and return lines.

Yes is would be easier, thats the beauty of the FP green, it allows you to go from any MHI turbo with our more turbo provision. As you read though, they are similar, so some choose the green for its properties and holset for the same reason. Also Holset turbos are about 1/3 the price of a new FP green.

 

[TSi Kid]

HX35 ALL DAY ERRRY DAY.

You might have to go for the extra effort to get it to fit but you can't beat it for the price. Sell the FP green and profit.

 

[agentorange313]

HX35 ALL DAY ERRRY DAY.

You might have to go for the extra effort to get it to fit but you can't beat it for the price. Sell the FP green and profit.

step one: sell fp
step two: ????
step three: profit

I agree the holset is a better bet.

 

[93_tsi_fwd]

I already traded the FP green for an evo3 16g + 300 cash of course. When i get tired of this 16g, ill sell it and get the holset a housing.

 

[907dsm]

<<< Knows of one for sale hehe!! Not advertising . I think the street fun of E316g is cool, good luck.

 

[93_tsi_fwd]

yeah, since the track season will be over soon, I should have my holset setup ready by then. Hopefully...