Broken Lug Studs on ABS Talon...HELP [Merged 9-6]

[Zerocygnal]

Well I didn't think this would be a big deal to repair until I realized that the ABS sensor ring makes it impossible to take broken lug studs out without removing it. Problem is...I don't see any way to take the hub assembly apart without using a press. I took the entire hub off the car and there is no access hole or anything to back the studs out.

To make a long story short the guy at the tire shop tightened my lug nuts down with a heavy duty impact. Got a few miles away and the wheels felt wobbly. I was a block away from home so I got lucky....
Took off the centercaps...3 lugnuts lying inside of it with broken studs inside. Kinda need to get to work on Monday..so any help with this would be appreciated. Is a press nessessary for me to repair this?

Thanks in advance

 

[j_eclipse96]

Okay, I searched for this, but only found people who broke off the entire bolt assembly, not just having their lug snap off.

I was torquing my tuner lugs down and I guess I was pulling too hard (I wasn't using an air wrench or anything, just a breaker bar) and one of my 7-spline tuner lugs snapped off. Part of it is still on the bolt, but not enough to grip with the key.

So what do I do, and where could I go to have something like that fixed? I thought about heating it up and chiseling it off, but there is very little clearance to work with in these aftermarket wheel holes, and knowing my mechanical skills, I would probably f*** something up.

Would it be a bad idea to drive on this wheel? I am hoping not, as I have to work and such. Off topic, but how bad is it to drive with 4 lugs on a 5 lug wheel? Thanks.

 

[streetlegends]

Okay, I searched for this, but only found people who broke off the entire bolt assembly, not just having their lug snap off.

I was torquing my tuner lugs down and I guess I was pulling too hard (I wasn't using an air wrench or anything, just a breaker bar) and one of my 7-spline tuner lugs snapped off. Part of it is still on the bolt, but not enough to grip with the key.

So what do I do, and where could I go to have something like that fixed? I thought about heating it up and chiseling it off, but there is very little clearance to work with in these aftermarket wheel holes, and knowing my mechanical skills, I would probably f*** something up.

Would it be a bad idea to drive on this wheel? I am hoping not, as I have to work and such. Off topic, but how bad is it to drive with 4 lugs on a 5 lug wheel? Thanks.

If is just the lug, what you need to do is take off the rotor and take a hammer and bang the broken one off and it should fall out and take the new and bang as much as you can and use an air wrench to put the nut back on and it should be straight. If by chance the nut slit on you then you need to get a thick wood screw with head on it that you can use a socket on, take it and hammer in the lug and make sure it's in there good and get the wrench and torque it off and that should get you straight.

 

[j_eclipse96]

If is just the lug, what you need to do is take off the rotor and take a hammer and bang the broken one off and it should fall out and take the new and bang as much as you can and use an air wrench to put the nut back on and it should be straight.

Not really sure what you're trying to say here. My rim is stuck on, as it was only the top of the tuner lug that broke off. How do I get the rotor off without taking off the rim? Or are you talking about pounding out the stud?

 

[dsm023]

First what brand are these lug nuts, ebay specials?

If yes try the below methods. Do the lug nuts have anything left on the base for you to hammer the key back on? If not you could use a slightly smaller size deep socket and hammer it on as well!

 

[LunarEclips]

First what brand are these lug nuts, ebay specials?

If yes try the below methods. Do the lug nuts have anything left on the base for you to hammer the key back on? If not you could use a slightly smaller size deep socket and hammer it on as well!

I was thinking the same thing. Get a smaller size deep socket that you dont give a F*CK about and hammer it onto the lug nut. You might want to use a 10point deep socket (like the Long Neck brand from autozone for 20$). You most likely only have one chance at doing this so be careful...

To answer your other question, my friend is rolling on 3 lug nuts with his stock rims on his 99 eclipse (though he's a f*ckin dumb a$$) and he has no problems, but word of advice, avoid pot holes by all means.

 

[j_eclipse96]

They are not ebay, but I am pretty sure they are poor quality, as I have bent one and broken another.

I ordered a new set of gorilla lugs from summit last night, and I am planning on replacing these crappy 7-splines. I am going to wait to fix the broken lug nut though, because if I mess up the 7-spline key, I can't take the rest of my lug nuts off. Hopefully it won't rust over or anything before this weekend or whenever I have time to fix it.

When I do take it off though I will try these methods and post an update. Thanks for the help guys!

 

[Talonman92]

driving on 4 of 5 lug nuts shouldn't be a problem for a short period of time. (like untill your replacements come in) Just make sure all 4 are torqued to spec!

 

[MaNGiNa24]

I had the same issue. Ended up messing up a rim, and drilling the hell out of the lug nut stud. Now that I think of it, it would have been much easier to just pound the hell out of the individual stud since it was only being held on by a few threads.

 

[MikeCordell]

I remember having this same problem on a Ford Focus and we took drill bits and drilled out the center of the stud, slowly increasing the size of the bit until we drilled out the threads. We did ruin quite a few bits, though.

 

[jott5555]

they actually have a reverse thread lug nut extractor thing basically you hammer it on the broken lug or in my case since i lost the key's for mine.. then use your standard half inch breaker bar and rip er off..

 

[lasertim]

they actually have a reverse thread lug nut extractor thing basically you hammer it on the broken lug or in my case since i lost the key's for mine.. then use your standard half inch breaker bar and rip er off..

I was going to suggest the same thing but he is using tuner lug nuts which are generally used with wheels that have really small holes. I doubt the tool you are talking about will work in his situation. It is the same size as a regular impact socket which is much larger than his tuner lugs.

 

[Talesin]

Eh, when mine broke off we just removed the rest of the lugnuts, used a chisel and hammer to crack off the back of the wheel stud, and a breaker bar to gently lever the rest of the stud free. Still haven't replaced the stud, come to think of it. Probably should while the car's down for head work.

 

[1gcrazy]

Ok this is just an idea and if I had a picture i could come up with a BRILLIANT idea. But i dont so here we go.

Take a drillbit about a nickel in width and drill two holes into the remaining part of the lug. Each hole has to be on the opposing side of each other.

Now that you have the holes drilled: You can go two routes from here

1. Take two nails and hammer them in as deep as you can get them. Take two peices of flat metal and lay them over each side of the nail. Then take some vise grips or a cresent wrench and a breaker bar and try to take it off that way.

2. if the holes were too big and they broke through the outside of the lug then take some needle nose plyers and if they fit in the groove on each side of the lug nut they should wedge each side of the plyer between the groove and the wall. Then take a cresent and try to pry it off that way.

Again if I had a picture i'd come up with something better but i'm doin my best here.
Let me know if i need to draw a picture. This one was pretty difficult to explain.

 

[Talesin]

Hmm. Or if you have enough of the nut left, cut slots in opposing sides with a drill or whichever, and fit in a breaker bar sized screwdriver. Or just crack the nut outward with a couple of levers... if it's a cheap lug, it's meant to withstand rotation and not much else. Might also be able to crack it inward (again, needing enough of the nut left) with a set of visegrips.

Honestly, I'd just break the wheel stud and replace it. Cheap, compared to the headache of removing a broken lug nut without damaging the stud.

 

[Project2G]

I can sell you lug nuts..

 

[DSM Modified]

I was thinking the same thing. Get a smaller size deep socket that you dont give a F*CK about and hammer it onto the lug nut. You might want to use a 10point deep socket (like the Long Neck brand from autozone for 20$). You most likely only have one chance at doing this so be careful...

To answer your other question, my friend is rolling on 3 lug nuts with his stock rims on his 99 eclipse (though he's a f*ckin dumb a$$) and he has no problems, but word of advice, avoid pot holes by all means.

I pretty much do it the same way.... good idea

 

[word2wombat]

so today i decided to get a flat tire fixed. when i went to take the tire off i saw that the screw that the lug screws onto is almost completly cracked off. luckily it did not snap off while it was attached to the lug nut. but now my question is what is the part called that i need to replace. it is not connected to the brake rotor from what i understand, correct? if this is the case i could probably get it from a junk yard but i need to know what it is called so i can replace it.

here are a couple of pics to show what im talking about

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and also before everyone starts telling me that i need new rotors i am already aware of that. i ordered them and they should be here anyday now.

 

[wret]

I believe the mitsu parts catalog has them listed as "wheel bolts" but they will know what you mean if you ask for lug bolts or studs. They're about 5 bucks each at the dealer.

They are easy to replace.
-Remove bottom pin on the caliper and rotate the caliper up and out of the way.
-turn the rotor so that the broken stud is positioned so that you can see the back on the other side of the rotor.
-punch out the broken stud from the outside.
-slide in the new one from the inside.
-tighten a bit with a nut and some washers to get the splines to engage.
-reattach your caliper and wheel.

Also, just because your rotors are rusted doesn't mean they need to be replaced.

 

[word2wombat]

thank you for the quick, informative and very helpful response

 

[turbotalon711]

Does anyone have any suggestion to get a striptlug nut off with out destroying anyhting else?

 

[ibrkalot]

How bad is it stripped? Can you try an fit a slightly smaller size socket on it an beat it on there w/hammer an try an remove it?

You may see a few different tire shops and see what they think. I am sure they have come in contact with this problem a time or two.

 

[91_tsi]

can you fit a vice grip on it? You could weld a socket to it and get it off that way with a ratchet,

 

[1gcrazy]

Weld something to it and back it out.

 

[roadrunner2176]

There are sockets that have a reverse twist on them, just like an easy out, but inside a socket. Use an air gun to get it started followed by a breaker bar. If you have good threads on the remainder of the stud it should come off, it will be hard. Worse outcome, you snap the stud, but your going to have to replace it anyway.

 

[bmwracing_6]

is it a stock lugnut or do you have use a key?