Broken Lug Studs on ABS Talon...HELP [Merged 9-6]

[Zerocygnal]

Well I didn't think this would be a big deal to repair until I realized that the ABS sensor ring makes it impossible to take broken lug studs out without removing it. Problem is...I don't see any way to take the hub assembly apart without using a press. I took the entire hub off the car and there is no access hole or anything to back the studs out.

To make a long story short the guy at the tire shop tightened my lug nuts down with a heavy duty impact. Got a few miles away and the wheels felt wobbly. I was a block away from home so I got lucky....
Took off the centercaps...3 lugnuts lying inside of it with broken studs inside. Kinda need to get to work on Monday..so any help with this would be appreciated. Is a press nessessary for me to repair this?

Thanks in advance

 

[lhhc]

I just broke off 1 lug nut stud Can I get a replacement at a local auto parts store or do I have to go to a mitsubishi dealer? If I can get it from AutoZone or NAPA, is there a size or something I should tell them? or just mitsubishi eclipse? HELP!!!

 

[1LE]

Go to Napa, they should be able to look it up. No need to freak out They break sometimes.

 

[benchandler]

get new rims

 

[Sotarts]

Originally posted by benchandler
get new rims

that's not cool...

Go to any decent auto store. Punch out the old bolt and bring it along with the other piece if you're paranoid they will screw up the length somehow. Probably no more than $5 for bolt and nut.
I think they are 12x45 front and 12x41 rear.
You could go to a dealer, probably no more than $4 for the bolt.

I've been driving w/out one front bolt for a while now... lazy, heh.

 

[lhhc]

Originally posted by benchandler
get new rims

if I had the money I would use it as an excuse to get new rims but I was able to get new ones from AutoZone at $1.30 a piece!

So all I have to do is pull off the wheel and rotor, then pound the broken one out the back then slide the new one in, pull it all the way it with a lug nut then I should be fine? I don't need to take anything else off the car or anything?

Thanks for the help!

 

[tdoshi9]

that should be all u need to do or take off!! its not that hard i need to to the same with my car but it was said earlier. IM LAZY

 

[Sotarts]

Don't forget the new bolt has to be pressed in(or hamered in I suppose?) Don't just let the nut pull it in. It probably won't be sufficient.

 

[Satori]

You won’t need a press at all. I just did this on my car this morning.

Take off the wheel, caliper, caliper mounting bracket, and rotor. Turn the hub until the back of the stud you want to remove has nothing behind it (where the caliper mount goes). If the stud protrudes out of the hub you can just hit it with a hammer a few times and it should just pop right out. If it’s broken below the surface of the hub you’ll need to get a punch.

To put a new one on, just get the stud, a stack of washers, and a cheap lug nut (you could probably use the nut that comes as standard equipment but I didn’t want to risk distorting the tapered edge on it). Spray a little WD-40 or whatever on the butt of the stud and put the stud through the hole in the hub. Place a stack of washers on the stud and screw the nut on tight until the back of the stud is completely tight against the hub (I sprayed WD-40 on the washers and stud too, but I don’t know if it made any difference). I torqued mine to 150 ft-lbs just to be sure.

You’ll need something to hold the hub still while putting the new stud in place. I just used a bar I had laying around to place between two of the studs. It was long enough to reach the ground and hold the hub still.

I expected this to be much more effort than it was. Don’t be lazy about it because it’s not worth risking a warped rotor for. It takes all of about 20 min. if you are taking your time about it.

P.S. I'm sure I don't have to remind people to wear proper eye protection any time you are beating on something with a hammer, but I thought I should say something to cover my ass anyway

 

[gp01fb]

Funny to hear about the same problem. I had and still have this prob on 2 sets of studs. First one was on stock rims so a wheel shop took it off with an air chisel but damaged the wheel.

Current one, is a pain in da a#$, and are on aftermarket wheels; sucks! Drilled it, pinched it, pinned it but sucker just won't come off. Titanium, nickel, diamond drill bits won't take this thing off. Any other suggestions or luck getting this off w/o damaging the rims?

 

[Defiant]

"And remember, there's no more important safety item than these -safety glasses" -Norm.

 

[OneSexyDSM]

Earlier today I was talking my brake caliper (sp?) off today to instal new lug studs. I got the wheel off, its on jack stands and all that but when I try to take the caliper off the bolts wont budge I work with it for about 20 minutes and just get fed up and use my jack stand to jack the wrench up to get the bolt out (dumb idea) it just poped off and took some thread with it, its not too bad luckly.

does anybody have a suggestion for this? also, when you bang out the lug stud do you hit it straight on (push it out the back) or sideways. I take it that it is straight on but I just want to be sure.

thanks for your help

 

[OneSexyDSM]

ohhh never mind I figured it out, im dumb, wrong bolt (someone smack me)

but can anybody answer my second question?

 

[90GSX]

Hit the wheel stud dead center to push it straight out the back of the hub. They usually pop out after a few whacks with a BFH.

A tip on installing the new studs if you've never done it before: Insert the stud through the back of the hub and align the splines by hand, then get 4-5 thick washers. Use the washers as spacers between the hub and a lugnut (preferably an old/spare one) Use an impact gun to spin the nut which will draw the stud into the hub. Much easier than banging away at the back of the stud.

Good luck,

 

[Black95TSIawd]

umm...i'm just trying to help so this is a guess. Is there a way u would be able to cut the back end of the stud so that u can just pull the stud out with the lug nut still on..???

 

[loreak]

one of my rear wheels has the same prob, i havent gotten around to fixing it, local muffler shop has a plasma cutter, im thinkin maybe he can cut the lugnut in half and ill pull it off the stud, then the wheel can pull off over the stud and ill just replace it

 

[vertGST]

same thing happened to me. everytime i out a rim back on i spray the studs with wd-40. haven't broken any since.

Brendon

 

[rick]

i have a simular problem. i gots TWO of them loose, complete with the damn lug nuts still on em!!!! i try to not to drive unecessarily, but how do i go about getting the wheel off??? they spin when you try to take them off!!! i have awd too, and these are on the rear drivers side! someoen tell me this can be fixed please!!!

 

[ahner]

may god strike down those @ssholes who tighten down ur lug nuts with an impact. this is why this happens. those guys are idiots, and if you find a tire place that uses a torque wrench, pay the extra money, cuz he knows what he is doing. i had a tire guy snap off 3 of mine, and the following month i snapped on trying to get a lugnut off that he tightend with his "mega-impact" hope you get it figured out, it was easy with my car, but i dont have ABS. if you just got new tires or wheels or something try taking it back to them and telling them they messed it up.

 

[jmartinez1228]

One of the bolts broke from the wheels, i may be mistaken it may be called a lug or something i dunno its where u put the lug nuts, anybody know how to fix it or how much its gonna cost to fix it??

 

[Seattle GST]

yup, it happened to me the other day, you need to go to a shop to press the old broken stud out, the part should be about $3-4 at Mitsu. then you get to pay about $50-80 to get the new one pressed in, or you can just torque the heck out of it, stripping or breaking the new one in the process! have fun!

note: read the OEM torque specs on those things, they should be replaced with stronger studs as soon as possible.

 

[jim97gst]

I cross threaded one and replaced it myself with simple tools. It's not that hard.

Pull the wheel off and spray some PB blaster on the lug and let it soak for a while. Use a hammer to knock out the broken lug (make sure your car is secure on a jack stand!). My came out pretty easily, but it's a 97. You're 90 may be a bit tougher depending on what kind of weather it's seen. Insert your new lug stud. Stack up a bunch of washers where the wheel would go, and thread on your lugnut to pull it into place. Take the washers off and put your wheel back on and you're good to go. Depending on how far back in you are able to get the new stud in and how nicely it holds in place, you may be able to skip the washer step, and just pull it into place while putting your wheel back on. Good luck!

 

[Toshiro]

I just did one the other day, it was easy. The old stud hammered out really easily, and the new wheel stud ($1.50 @ Autozone) went in its place. I stacked some big nuts (no washers around) on it, and tightened the lug nut on. Took us a while to realize we had to hold the brake or else the wheel would just spin, so we set the rotor inside the caliper (both were pulled but brake line still connected) and my friend held the brake pedal. Took a bit of torque but overall not too hard. Go for it.

 

[Defiant]

It's pretty much hammer-out, draw-in. Any tire shop can do it for almost nothing, they do many a day.

There _may_ be an ABS issue:

http://www.dsm.org/archives/1996/09/19960903.txt/3.html

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread/t-36781.html

http://www.toyotacressida.com/files/pages/Howto/wstuds.htm

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Hey, Toshiro, where's your pic, out around Loomis or so?

 

[jmartinez1228]

thanks guys

 

[Toshiro]

Shingle Springs, baby. That pic is like 5 minutes from my house... quite a commute.