Road Race Build 2G Auto Time Attack race build!

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

Wish you and I were local to each other. I'd have a lot of welding work for you. Great work.

I bet you would!i get told alot they wish i was near by for a pop in haha. Im not abke to be everywhere though! I wish as traveling would be fun. The DSM traveler

 

[miguelmcv]

But can you not have the muffler before the subframe? It will still donits job but means less bulk to mess sround with in the back end,

You just got to get very creative and think of the impossible which is not always easy to do

Haaa, actually that’s a good idea, I. Never thought on that, I’m going to see how that will look, hope it does fit, I will be them happy if it fit.

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

Decided to put the hood on for now and i will reslreay it at a later date with a proper spray gun and paint. Not gonna waste time and money on cans that dont do good. It looks nice in the pics but the chap next door saw the hood and sai he could see the surface finish is not great. So thank riolett for some expensive half working cans

It looks good with the vent and today i started cutting up the fenders so i might be able to get those back on shortly. Shall see how time goes

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Well i got my refund from the 2K spray can place. So i decided ro jump on it since they had them back in stock (just) but i got a paint gun kit. I added an extra gun and nozzle size so i have a wider range of use.

I got
2, hoses
1, filter/water trap
1, additional water trap pre gun
1, 1.3mm gun
1, 1.8mm gun
1, 1.4mm nozzle kit for one of the guns

I dont currently have alot of spare time for this yet but it gives me time to find some paint thats good quality

I shall get open pics of the actual guns on the weekend. They feel really nice and was not expensive at all and the reviews online from people who spray as a job/living say they do a good job for the price

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

Some pics of the guns and extra nozzle. Nothing fancy but mainky just to show the guns. The proof eill be in the pudding once painted

 

[miguelmcv]

Those are really nice guns. How big is the air compressor you are going to use? I have a small one and didn’t keep up, I paint some panels and it end up like wrinkle paint.

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

Those are really nice guns. How big is the air compressor you are going to use? I have a small one and didn’t keep up, I paint some panels and it end up like wrinkle paint.

Its a small compressor. Maybe 80 liters from memory. It handles an impact gun and other air tools ok and gives it a good go but for those they use a bunch of air.

Because these guns are low pressure and cfm i should hopefully be ok but i really wont know till i do it. So i am hoping its going to be ok

 

[NWHTanK]

For painting you should be using a 80 gallon with a 2 stage compressor with the highest cfm you can find. The smaller the storage tank size along with smaller compressor size it will run longer and pressure and cfm will vary throwing off your gun settings. The compressor will generate a lot more heat since it will thier will be more demand on it and cause alot more wear on the compresor. So change the oil more frequently. Also invest in a good quality water/air separator and a oil/air separator this is a must. When running a small compressor it generates a lot more heat with that, the hot air cools and creates more condensation and the compresor tolerances change quite a bit from continuous use,so thier will be more oil in the air line. Don't skimp on filtration especially with a smaller compresor. And the filtration should be before the the airline to keep the airline oil and water free as possable.

 

[pagosa dsm]

Well i got my refund from the 2K spray can place. So i decided ro jump on it since they had them back in stock (just) but i got a paint gun kit. I added an extra gun and nozzle size so i have a wider range of use.

I got
2, hoses
1, filter/water trap
1, additional water trap pre gun
1, 1.3mm gun
1, 1.8mm gun
1, 1.4mm nozzle kit for one of the guns

I dont currently have alot of spare time for this yet but it gives me time to find some paint thats good quality

I shall get open pics of the actual guns on the weekend. They feel really nice and was not expensive at all and the reviews online from people who spray as a job/living say they do a good job for the price
that is an air tool quality water trap. Spray quality would be made by Sharpe
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[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

For painting you should be using a 80 gallon with a 2 stage compressor with the highest cfm you can find. The smaller the storage tank size along with smaller compressor size it will run longer and pressure and cfm will vary throwing off your gun settings. The compressor will generate a lot more heat since it will thier will be more demand on it and cause alot more wear on the compresor. So change the oil more frequently. Also invest in a good quality water/air separator and a oil/air separator this is a must. When running a small compressor it generates a lot more heat with that, the hot air cools and creates more condensation and the compresor tolerances change quite a bit from continuous use,so thier will be more oil in the air line. Don't skimp on filtration especially with a smaller compresor. And the filtration should be before the the airline to keep the airline oil and water free as possable.

im not looking for a pro job and the comp is old and i will be getting a new one at some point for the new shed but for now im just going to see what this does. the filteration is a 2 stage but seperate as it collects on the entry to the gun and then half way in the lines so it gives it ample time to cool down. one day i will get a really nice screw compressor but right now its not in the budget nor space allows currently

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

Not much done to this for a while, getting it prepped this weekend as this week should be the week i get to bring the car into work and start the repairs on the sills and such. Got lots to do and weld in, list which include

* Pedal base bosses to bolt the pedal box i made to the floor
* Rear boss for the frame rail for my fuel tank mounting
* Rear under brace for the frame rail (above subframe) mine corroded away so making a bolt in unit instead
* Finish off my tube steel wing mount/upright and trailing brace for the middle of the upright
* Weld panels onto the sills and make good again
* Replace metal on the rear trailing arm mount and also reinforce it to the chassis more

Prepare and make aero body panels (splitter/sides/rear diffuser, maybe tunnel, not decided on which one yet.
Front fenders are now finished again as i decided to redo them on my red ones from the car, now i just have to paint it all once done.


In my prep stage i decided to put on what i currently have of my redesigned bumpsteer kit aka V2. I still need to make the stainless spacers for the shaft but the rest is complete and zinc plated. It will work for now turning.

The rear im just waiting on some rodends to come in as this design will also be used on the back. A few reasons i wanted to redo this and its been on my list for a while now. Glad i finally got around to it and get it nearly complete

Once i start getting the bodywork done pics will be flying in as is do it.

 

[NWHTanK]

Cough cough hint hint.

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

Cough cough hint hint.

What you on about im just showing my progress with the car haha

 

[gsxitement]

Uhhhhhhhh......I didn't even get the V1 in the car yet .

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

Uhhhhhhhh......I didn't even get the V1 in the car yet .

Well chop chop matey! Get to it

 

[gsxitement]

Well chop chop matey! Get to it

Yeah. Hopefully tomorrow. Planning on balancing the car and aligning it. So maybe we can squeeze it in there somewhere.

 

[mountain_man]

Uhhhhhhhh......I didn't even get the V1 in the car yet .

Bro... they. Are. A. Game. Changer. regarding feel.

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

Yeah. Hopefully tomorrow. Planning on balancing the car and aligning it. So maybe we can squeeze it in there somewhere.

Best make time for them to go in. You will be glad you put them in

 

[EVLGSX]

Some pics of the guns and extra nozzle. Nothing fancy but mainky just to show the guns. The proof eill be in the pudding once painted

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If I had to buy a new gun right now, I dont know what I would do. Ive been using the same Devilbiss (GTi Millennium Edition) for over 15 years and have never had a gun with a better feel. I know 2 other guys who do this just as much as I do who say the exact same thing.

Make sure you have a strong air supply and make sure that air is clean & dry. Things can go wrong in a hurry costing you both time and money.

Surprised you attempted an entire hood with cans........you will be much happier now if you can get a good setup going for the gun.

In case you are unsure, 1.3 is good for all base/clear

1.8 would be for mud. Good luck!

 

[NWHTanK]

Bump stear kit..... and front and rear upper arms... Wait a min ¿¿¿¿ No tube front subframe ??? Not installed yet???

 

[NWHTanK]

And stock sway bars??? Chop Chop.

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

Bump stear kit..... and front and rear upper arms... Wait a min ¿¿¿¿ No tube front subframe ??? Not installed yet???

And stock sway bars??? Chop Chop.

Yeah yeah i also lag behind i got all the frame bits made just not got a decent time to make it.
The sway bar sill stay stock as i dont need an up graded one. So i may paint that.

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

If I had to buy a new gun right now, I dont know what I would do. Ive been using the same Devilbiss (GTi Millennium Edition) for over 15 years and have never had a gun with a better feel. I know 2 other guys who do this just as much as I do who say the exact same thing.

Make sure you have a strong air supply and make sure that air is clean & dry. Things can go wrong in a hurry costing you both time and money.

Surprised you attempted an entire hood with cans........you will be much happier now if you can get a good setup going for the gun.

In case you are unsure, 1.3 is good for all base/clear

1.8 would be for mud. Good luck!

Dont know whyni never saw this post so im sorry for not replying sooner!

The nozzle size is relevent for the fluid, so the 1.8 is for primers and thick undercoats, 1.3 for base coat paint and 1.4 is for laquer although 1.3 still does well so im told for both base and clear coat. The nozzle kit was not that much more to add so grabbed it for the heck of it.

I have used cans for years on big panels and always been pretty decent but i guess the last few years since i have not sprayed anything the quality of the cans went way down hill!

Im now looking for a huge compressor for the shed as im slowly getting it ready for full usage and welding etc but i might spray the bits at work since i have other body work to now paint and thats a hydrovain screw compressor and wont run out on me.

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

Been a while but i finally have some good news to post up about the car and its fixes finally!

Monday night the chap down the road helped me out and collected my car with me on a loader, luckily i had the bumper off as it wouod not of made it on otherwise and it just missed my oil and trans coolers by about 2mm . Also the tow hooks work as this was the first time using them. I knew they would but its always nice to see them in action.

My wheels were too big for his straps so we had to go through the wheels for this trip but fear not as i went and bought my own set now as i will need them anyway and they fit over 20" wheels and my width just fine. Reviews said and showed a lambo fits these straps so mine certainly will also.

Friday night after work i got our forktruck and towed it into the workshop ready for today and tomorrow (sat+sun)

Fun plans for this weekend are fixing the holes i made from cutting the rust out of the inner and outer sills.

so i started the morning welding my chassis rail mounts for my fuel tank frame so now that its 100% complete and abke to hold itself up now strap free, the holes are drilled for the fuel filler pipe and filler vent and roll over vent which is through the bodywork.

After that was done i moved onto the drivers side sills which so happens to be the better side of the car! I opted to do this first since its going to be simpler and i could in theory do it faster and find a way to work in a small area first.
So this is where i got to currently at the end of the day,
The inner sill is fully welded, the outer sill is tacked on ready to be welded tomorrow morning,
The trailing arm mount is welded with new 3mm steel for strength back and bottom as that all pitted and had holes in it, the mount is also chassis reinforced as i thought this was a good idea a while ago so i started seeing the best way to do this and came up with this outer one and 1 on the inside (to be added) towards under chassis rail. This will give all kinda of pulling and sideways support and it gets rid of all the flimsy oem material which just likes to collect water and rot! This opens it all up so zero collection of water.

Im no expert on bodywork so this is pushing my skill set somewhat! Im a good welder and i have an idea but panel beating etc is out of my knowledge base but overall i think it came out pretty well for a days work! Yes i did not get the rear to be curved like the oem is but i dont have those kind of tools at work nor a roller so i had to use what my brain thought was best which was a round tube on a flypress to make the curve of the sill, then i welded the end on after for a bit of strength. This will all be covered up anyway so its never going to be super as oem was and my main goal is to get it to pass my yearly inspection and be strong and fresh once again. I chose to do a little redesign and change material size. Inner sill is now 2mm thick and outer sill is now 1.2mm thick which both are thicker then what they used, no reason for this other then a bit of extra strength and thicker stuff takes alot longer to rust then wafer thin stuff!

The passenger side is being started sunday and hopefully can get that side fully done in 1 day now i know how to do it.

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

Another good weekend and happy with the results.

I had set out a plan and what i wanted to get done and i think i done pretty good considering some slow parts.

Sat morning was spent finishing up the under side and added bracing for the trailing arms. This was something i wanted to do a while ago and because i cut all the support metal away it was more idea now to have this then have nothing even though oem is just some thin sheet metal as a support. This is much more strength now.

I then went onto the inside trunk area as i had 2 rust holes in the corners which i believe were from the trunk drains leaking over time and water/salt from the underside did not help either. Made them from alloy and sealed with sealant so they wont rust no more and can be replaced if i ever need to. I first made the internal curve support frame and riveted it to the metalwork then over sized plate to allow more rivets to the surrounding metal.

I then moved onto my wing and i have been here before but last time i made the uprights from alloy and i was not super happy with it in the sense of strength and how bulky it looked.
So with that in mind i opted to make them from tube, this will make them alot stronger and open it up more, its not the most amazing looking setup out there but looks for me are 2nd vs structual strenth.

After sat was over i left with the single cross bar and hated this so i did some research on what others have done to make it look better and be very strong.

So sunday morning arrives and i have a baseline idea of mounting a cross bar but after a sample i scrapped it and came up with a different way of mounting it instead of my small tab idea previously.
Im quite happy with the outcome and it barely moves anymore so im pleased this is done. It just needs cleaning up and then painting.

I then welded the bungs in the floor for the pedal unit i made but has to come out again as i put the bliming masters in the wrong side so i gave up and moved onto the next part.

To end the day i started the passenger side window surround for the poly windows. I got the basic shape but ran out of material anyway and its only tack welded onto the plates i riveted to the door. This will have to be for another weekend and i still have to make the tabs for the frame yet also.

All in all it was s good weekend and quite alot done.

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

Another weekend and another items almost checked off the list! I finished up the passenger side window frame work and mounted it for now, my dome bolts never made it in so for now these socket caps will hold it in place till they arrive. The frame work is 8mm solid steel and each tab is holed for M6 bolts. It also has two tabs on the toor and frame for vertical supports which are still to be done. These will add felxing support and also help keep the curve of the poly window and keep the seal onnthe rubber which is another reason why i opted for 8mm bar rather then 6mm as i could hand bend 6mm but tough to hand bend 8mm

I actually tried to heat up the plastic over the oem glass to see if i can curve it but it did not work out. I got it hot but i might of been a bit scared to over heat it so nothing moved or set in a curve. I might go talk to the company over the road monday as they thermo form aircraft plastics so wonder if they can heat it up for me and let it sit over the glass. Worse case they say no but i would have tried.

The drivers side is welded and just needs cleaning up then painting and installing.

One thing i dont know if i should do now is cover up the frame and tabs by installing some carbon vinyl i have coming to give it a cleaner look or do I keep the frame shown? Thoughts were to do it but now im not 100% sure it will be good or even look right and im kinda not wanting to take away any viewing area so i guess a trial is in order to see

I think i wanted to get abit more done then i did today but i did waste 45mins heating the plastic so im still happy with the progress thus far. Tomorrow will see this done and onto the last stage to do at work which is make my side skirts!