Which Turbo Should I Get [merged] What Turbo

[Ludachris]

Which turbo will be sufficient for consistent 11 second times? I've recently decided on a big 16g, but will that be big enough to run 11s with supporting mods and decent tuning? Remember, this is for a budget street car, so any one purchase over $1k is tough. A big 16g will run about $700-900, which is about $300-400 less than the larger alternatives.

Of course, I'll need lots of practice to run these times, but, I just want to make sure that it's possible before the money is spent.

 

[dsm92gsx]

I would also say to go with the 16g for the power range you are looking for.

I will post this as I am sure it will be soon to reference

Tech Guide - DSMtuners

 

[boost97gst]

Seriously op, this has been hammered. There are MANY turbos that will do what you need. Right now evo3s are a bit expensive. After shopping around i personally went with a PTE. My heart was set on an evo3 for a year, then i looked at the price and availability and couldnt do it. The hta68 is also good, but if your going there why not go on up to an fp green. Then you could hit the 400hp mark if you want to. The evo3, in reality, probably wont get you to 400 hp. Everything has to be perfect for that to occur.

 

[angelito2g]

So with the HP range I want, what time u all think I can put down on a 1/4 mile

Everyone is giving me different turbo to use. I nned something that will be guick in spooling, good HP and that would help me out in top end

 

[Cirus_93TSI]

An evo3 16g would be good for hp goals in the mid to high 300s, and its not going to cost you an arm and a leg to put on your car.
A 20g wouldnt be terrible either. I ran a 20g my crashed up red laser when it was still alive, it went 11.6 to 11.9 on street tires at 28 psi on race gas. mods were similar to what your wanting to do, except it had web 274 cams and was a very very gutted and caged 1g. I never had it dynoed on 28 psi, but from the numbers it did on lower boost with the car having problems i would have expected 400 or a bit more.

Theres tons of other options out there, but it comes down to how much you can spend on a turbo. Your usually going to spend at least double on an aftermarket turbo compared to a mutsibishi 16g.

 

[angelito2g]

I'm thinking on aiming for a 20g but where can I get a good one for sale.

 

[dsm92gsx]

I'm thinking on aiming for a 20g but where can I get a good one for sale.

best bet is probably going to be on here.

 

[liquidsilver]

Everyone is giving me different turbo to use.

Huh? I started to multi-quote but that takes too much time. 8 out of 10 people have recommended the EvoIII 16G. Good for your HP goals and 12's in the quarter.

I prefer the 20G it gets you there more comfortably.

 

[angelito2g]

I found my turbo percision 5558

 

[95ttalontsi]

\Im thinking of changing my turbo setup from a E316G to a holset hx35 7 blade, using a t3 manifold or even a bep housing if i can find one. Is this a good idea, im looking for about 400 to 450 AWHP without race gas. Ive gotten the 16g to 329 AWHP on pump. I just dont want to always have to find race gas everytime I want to have fun. Holsets seem to be talked about as a really good street turbo. This is my DD summer car and sees the track every weekend. I was thinking a 50 trim but not shur of spool time. I want full boost by 3500 to 4000 rpm. What do you guys think.

 

[clipto]

the hx35 7 blade is a 52lb turbo and the bep .55 housing is a 52lb hotside, and that is the way I am going to go. But the best way to run a holset is a twin scroll setup. Pump gas will only get you so far on hp numbers.

 

[VTEC_THIS]

Most of this info can be found in the Holset FAQ and adjoining results links.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/turbo-system-tech/362444-holset-turbos-faq.html

FYI - The 7 blade HX35 is capable of 60lbs/min. The 8 blade HX35 is capable of 52lbs/min.

 

[BoostKrazy]

I currently have a small 16g, 750cc injectors, dsmlink v3 so once I put all this in, I think ill be maxing my 16g, what turbo should I get to try for 450 whp? GReddy has a setup for $1,100, I believe its a 20g.. would that push 450 awhp? Ideas please, once again, thanks guys

 

[RacintheReaper]

It all depends on tune, and cant go.wrong with a good 20g setup in my opinion.

 

[Tiki2777]

I currently have a small 16g, 750cc injectors, dsmlink v3 so once I put all this in, I think ill be maxing my 16g, what turbo should I get to try for 450 whp? GReddy has a setup for $1,100, I believe its a 20g.. would that push 450 awhp? Ideas please, once again, thanks guys

The GReddy kit is a good turbo but it is only an 18g (i wan to say tdo6 housing but im not sure). It will get you to 400, but 450 might be a stretch i think. (e85 or race gas could do it) Otherwise, you can spend you money on a better turbo elsewhere, like on an 68hta FP which outflows an evoiii 16g and an 18g. (Forced Performance Turbochargers: FP 68HTA for DSM)
That turbo makes sick torque at low rpms.
Holset turbos are another great option. Any version should be able to get you to 450hp, but it will be easier on a bigger holset obviously. You could get an hx35 or an hx40. (maybe even an h1c or h1e) [http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/turbo-system-tech/436168-holset-turbos-part-9-a.html] (first post for a summary of them)

Otherwise, you could get a td06h 20g and make that power also.
Then there's also the FP Green, or the FP Red, or the GT35R....So many options

 

[icerob]

FP Green

 

[LandSpeed-DSM]

I currently have a small 16g, 750cc injectors, dsmlink v3 so once I put all this in, I think ill be maxing my 16g, what turbo should I get to try for 450 whp? GReddy has a setup for $1,100, I believe its a 20g.. would that push 450 awhp? Ideas please, once again, thanks guys

Why does your profile say you have a T3 tube manifold with a 16G?

If you are on stock cams and intake manifold, so likely not winding out very high.. you are going to need to force a lot of air-mass through that motor.

450awhp and 750cc injectors dictate pump or race gas, so you have a couple things to consider still.

To make 450awhp on pump alone, which is probably only 91oct in AZ from what I remember, you are going to need a combination of a large compressor and likely a healthy dose of water or water/meth injection.

Skip the 18G/20Gs and save your money.

You are going to need to look at the larger BW S200's or smaller S300's, 7-blade (83mm exducer) HX35, Holset HX40s, or 60mm+ Garretts in relatively large turbine housings. Especially if you are going to do this on pump 91 alone.

Not everyone can wring every last bit of flow out of a turbo and then run an aggressive tune on top of it.

You will need a larger turbo than you think.

 

[dsmdeliveryboy]

A Turbo Lab billet T67(25g)

 

[seyzar18]

Im looking at buying a 74mm borg warner turbo and then i saw the precision 74mms are alot cheaper whats the big difference in the 2 turbos? Im building a 750-800 awhp on a 1g talon so either turbo will get me there plus beyond if i want to.
What do you think would be the best turbo/manifold setup for me? My motor is almost done its got fordged 8:1 compression pistons with a fordged 4340 crank manley valve springs manley i beam rods 800+hp a 5 angle valve job and fully ported and polished head with a stage 4 shep tranny.. looking at buying 1400 cc injectors.
Also another question should i go with the dual fuel pumps or will a single walboro 255 do good for this?

 

[GSLENK]

precision has a reputation for not lasting that long. they are meant for big HP cars that will be rebuilt after track day anyway, so a turbo rebuild when added to an engine and tranny refresh isnt too bad. Borg warners have a reputation for being legit.

 

[LandSpeed-DSM]

You should consider 2x Bosch 044's in parallel for providing enough fuel to feed +80lbs/min of airflow

A single 255LPH Walbro will not keep up. Re-wire the pumps with some heavy gauge wire too.

You will need an AFPR. What are you tuning with?

Get the BorgWarner 74mm. Not the BEP, an actual BorgWarner Airwerks S400SX.

 

[We're on Boost]

Im looking at buying a 74mm borg warner turbo and then i saw the precision 74mms are alot cheaper

Twicks69 seems to be doing great with his 74mm BW. You might want to take a look at the setup and dyno listed in his profile.

 

[seyzar18]

I think iv decided to go with a 6266 it seems to be a really nice turbo and its a heck of alot less then the borg s400

 

[We're on Boost]

I think iv decided to go with a 6266 it seems to be a really nice turbo and its a heck of alot less then the borg s400

The 6266 can make some hp that's for sure.
Have you seen the test thread in supraforums?

Hks/full-race t4 exhaust manifold test results

They tested 4 different turbos on 2 different manifolds.
The turbos were these:

Borg Warner 8374 (62mm inducer) EFR Dual Ball Bearing Divided T4 1.05 A/R
Precision 6266 CEA Waterless Dual Ball Bearing Divided T4 1.15 A/R
Precision 6266 CEA Journal Bearing Divided T4 1.15 A/R
Precision 6266 CEA Journal Bearing Undivided T4 .81 A/R

 

[nmarcy]

Okay my stock 14b is burning oil and has shaft play I am going to send it out to have it rebuilt and converted to either a 16, 18, or 20g. My biggest question is which one to go with. I have a 90 tsi awd with a 2g maf with intake, 560cc injectors, hardpiping on stock smic, eprom ecu with a chip for my injectors and maf, and a 2g manifold that will be ported to 7cm to match the new turbo. I am looking to make around 300 hp on a dd. The car will be daily driven 10 miles each way. any advise on which turbo to go with?

 

[My1GLaser]

Are they just changing the compressor wheel and machining the compressor cover to match? Are they changing the turbine side at all?

The 16g will be a good 300 hp with very quick spool. However, it would be cool to have a sleeper 20g crammed in a 14b housing. They would need to change the turbine to at least a TD05, since the 14b is a TD04 and I would imagine its way too restrictive for that compressor wheel.

If you are looking for quick spooling 300 hp then stick with the 16g. The 18 & 20g have higher HP capability, but will just be needlessly laggy if you only want 300 hp.

If Justin (JusMX141) chimes in, just follow his advice and you will be happy!