What did you do to your DSM today?

[1990TSIAWDTALON]

Thank you Steve. I may wait and have the parts store VERIFY that this is for a 5 speed. I read somewhere that I should ask for a 1990 Laser starter, as they were all 5 speed but FWD. Everytime I do a search for answers, I get a different answer and sure don't want to do this again as my back hates me for doing it

 

[steve]

ASA didn't care FWD vs AWD only MT vs AT. Decoding the MNHFL4M or MRHML4M always makes my eyes hurt. It isn't until I write them that I can see it's just MH vs MR then the trim level H or P and 4 vs 9 for Fed vs California.

 

[pauleyman]

Thank you Steve. I may wait and have the parts store VERIFY that this is for a 5 speed. I read somewhere that I should ask for a 1990 Laser starter, as they were all 5 speed but FWD. Everytime I do a search for answers, I get a different answer and sure don't want to do this again as my back hates me for doing it

Parts store may not reflect this but I thought there were no auto 90 awd. The intercooler inlet's are different on a 90 are different for this reason.

 

[1cleangsx]

Correct Paul, 1991 was the first year of the auto TURBO model, their were n/t auto’s I believe.

According to ASA there are a bunch of different part numbers of the years but after the superseded lists you wind up with two, MD172860 for the manual trans and MD172861 for the automatics. Other sites like STM list the MD172860 as fitting both the 1G types.

And my somewhat swiss cheesed memory says there has always been a difference between the two that causes engagement issues if you use the wrong one. I can't find original Mitsubishi specs but Bosch shows a few differences in angle and width of the pinion.

MD172860

You must be logged in to view this image or video.

MD172861

You must be logged in to view this image or video.

Not sure at this point but it seems like the auto version has three ridges on the nose and the manual version is solid.

Hey Steve I found this info from AI on a google search.

You must be logged in to view this image or video.

Now I think I’m gonna swap out my starter for the auto one

 

[1cleangsx]

when I pull the 5spd one out later I’ll post pics of the 2

 

[1990TSIAWDTALON]

I still don't trust AI one bit. If I tell it "You're wrong" it says something else and apologizes, hehehe. I "play" with AI and test it. Makes me SMH.
If I knew the actual difference to look for, I would be comparing all of my starters from partouts I have bought. One I have, that looks identical to my 5 speed unit, has an automatic signal pigtail on it and I don't know the difference, physically.

 

[1990TSIAWDTALON]

OK its time to compare 1g starters, for anyone that can point out the difference in any of these and which one has the auto pigtail already on it??? I don't see any difference except the stamped #'s on the head. Sorry they are upside-down.
I am not sure that 2 of the 3 are any different but I know which one was on my car and it still works.
Thanks.

You must be logged in to view this image or video.

You must be logged in to view this image or video.

You must be logged in to view this image or video.

You must be logged in to view this image or video.

You must be logged in to view this image or video.

You must be logged in to view this image or video.

You must be logged in to view this image or video.

You must be logged in to view this image or video.

You must be logged in to view this image or video.

 

[ItsTwan309]

Got my apexi installed today. So much more enjoyable. I can actually hear the rest of the world while driving

You must be logged in to view this image or video.

 

[1cleangsx]

Looks the same to me? Maybe I’ll just leave my 5spd one in there

 

[1990TSIAWDTALON]

I don't mean to confuse everyone. My car quit starting so I can't immediately test it until I fix that issue or I'd bolt it up at this point.
Thanks for your time everyone.