super charger

[Grafix]

I have heard that the s/c out of a pt cruser would bolt right up

 

[Kirby]

You heard wrong because the PT has a neon type engine, so the head is reversed from ours.

 

[Grafix]

search for it online and u will see that im not talking out my ass on google myself and a friend found it. the s/c is mounted on top of the exaust manafold cover

 

[Grafix]

on top of that the neon and the eclipse have the same basic block

 

[racer]

Ok here is what it is:
TC is better then SC for our cars.SC is driven by belt witch is not good for 4 cilindar engine cuz it is smal engine and the belt takes alot of power from the crank leaving alot of drag wich is also notgood for engine's live.Sc are good for cars with 6 up cilindar expecilay 8 cilindar up cars because the engine wont feeel the drag cuz it had more cilindars and it is stronger.
That is why the CAR Companie that produse 4 cilindar cars,Turbo charg them .If SC was better they would SC them instead.
It ll feels like u have ur regular turbo car but u drive with ur AC-ON max(4)

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by Grafix
search for it online and u will see that im not talking out my ass on google myself and a friend found it. the s/c is mounted on top of the exaust manafold cover

I believe you found a SC for a PT crusier, that is not what I am disputing. The problem is that the head is reversed, so the exhaust manifold is on the back of the engine, where as yours is on the front, not to mention that the eclipse and the Neon have completely different manifold designs. The fact is it won't work on your car I guarentee it. If you get it you will have to redo every single brackett and item to make it work.

Originally posted by Grafix
on top of that the neon and the eclipse have the same basic block

The block has nothing to do with this, the problem is the design of the head, and the fact that it is reversed. See above ^^ for answers.
I'm not trying to call you out or rub it in your face that it won't work, I just want to make sure you realize before you spend 4 grand that it won't work.

 

[Grafix]

thanks you know, i dont want to go spending un nessary cash just to find out the hard way

 

[Initial DSM]

Thats what we're here for.

 

[Gs Dewd]

Now in regards to the P/t sc and our engines. Would the statemant on it not working hold true for both enigines . The turbo and N/t eclipse cars. Why I ask Is that it the turbo cars the engine on the drivers side and in the N/t turbo car the enigine is in the Passenger side. which means the head is set differnetly on both eingines. Still wondering why mitsu did that. My car doesn't have a turbo so the timing belt is on the opisite sid eof the car. Not under the hump in the hood..

 

[Redmachine]

Because a turbo is exhuast driven, it heats up- heat = loss of power. About the same amount of loss as a crank driven super charger around 15-25 horse depending on your displacment. The benifits of a centrifical S/C is you can rebuild the gears and increase to crazy boost(procharger can go as high as 30 psi on a bullet proof engine) The definition of a turbocharger is a centrifugal blower driven by exhaust gas turbines and used to SUPERCHARGE an engine. Straight outta webster's. So this turbo/Supercharger issue is hamburger-cheeseburger. All a matter if taste.

BTW if any S/C company reads this alot of folks would like a nice setup for our 420A's

 

[Defiant]

Originally posted by Redmachine
Because a turbo is exhuast driven, it heats up- heat = loss of power.

Incorrect. The air heats up because it's being compressed. Same thing goes on in a supercharger, and a bicycle pump. The heating from any kind of exhaust temperature transfer is negligible.

 

[BlueMoonEclipse]

Air in a SC compressed to 16psi rises temperaturewise exactly the same as when compressed 16 psi in a turbo, bicycle pump, shop compressor or annything for that matter

when you compress a vol of x gas to half its current volume you logicaly find out it has the same amt of energy *(aka heat) but in a smaller space...effectively rising its temperature....how do you think AC works??

now if you talking about heat transfer from turbine wheel on exhaust side transfering to wheel on the intake side...i would say yes but it is minimal (annyone have a diferent opinion...if so plz enlighten me)...good ceramic coatings should help...then again that = weight = more rotational mass = slower spooling ...in theory that is

 

[Defiant]

Originally posted by BlueMoonEclipse

now if you talking about heat transfer from turbine wheel on exhaust side transfering to wheel on the intake side...i would say yes but it is minimal

I don't even know that it'd be minimal- you're having to conduct the heat throught a 3/8" rod that's running in an oil bath in a water-cooled jacket, and then disperse it out through the intake fan which is drawing in cool air while spinning at over 20K rpm. If you got two degrees into the fresh air after all that, I'd be amazed.

 

[bryan_tberry]

i took a look at that site. i wouldnt do it for one reason. Its not like boost is always happening. This is an electric supercharger that is activated with a button, much like nitrous. Most of us would like it to be an insured power... always there.

 

[Defiant]

There are no working electric superchargers. The boat bilge blowers they're selling as "superchargers" blow.... but not in a way that makes for any supercharging.

 

[Evolver]

have any of ytou guys checked out this new product at boost.com or somtehing like that, its so that you can adapt a gm-3800 supercharger, from other cars. the adaptor costs like 900 but the super you can find at junkyards for like 200.

 

[Doug99RS]

Holy reincarnated dead thread batman