Starting issues - No / Doesn't / Won't Start - MERGED

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I live in Canada and right now its not very warm out, about -30c
my car does not have a block heater too keep it warm.

I tryed to start my car this morning and it wouldent start, ive had this problem before but this time, the car doesnt crank at all it just makes a sound that sounds like an electric drill.

Whats wrong.

Thanks

 

[92AWDHX40]

I would look for another harness could be alarm of sort hard to tell with that mess.

 

[Hardcore1]

I want to say first off thank you all for your assistance. I ohm tested everything for the ignition it all seemed to test correct. So I changed out the fuel pump no change. The only thing I could think of next was the cam sensor or the crank sensor. Cam sensor was good. So I replaced the crank sensor and bam fire.
Thanks again guys.

 

[AWD Street Terrorist]

I would recommend checking your crank end play. If your trigger plate hit the sensor, you might be dealing with the dreaded C-word.

 

[BlackKnight2013]

have you checked compression?? have you checked your timing?? do you have adequate spark from the coil??

 

[DSM_2GB]

Backfiring thru the intake is a timing issue.if comp test comes out good and you have good spark i would check the cam and crank sensors next.

 

[Hardcore1]

I thought about that. So to be safe I took measures into hand and sent the car off to be ether rebuilt or replaced.

 

[CvilleColin]

Car won't start, check engine light comes on only when cranking, no spark, why does the check engine light stay off until I crank it ?

 

[Hardcore1]

Not sure why the signal is staying off but if our not getting fire you could have a fried sensor. Check the cam angle sensor or the crank position sensor that could be part of your fire problem. I had this happen to my 2g.

 

[92AWDHX40]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/articles-miscellaneous/217951-how-diagnose-no-start.html

 

[l8vr14dsm95]

Not sure why the signal is staying off but if our not getting fire you could have a fried sensor. Check the cam angle sensor or the crank position sensor that could be part of your fire problem. I had this happen to my 2g.

^^^^^ that's correct, check engine light only come on when there's a bad sensor. i would start with the crank sensor and work your way up to the cam sensor, also check ## coils

 

[steve]

If the CEL doesn't turn on when you first turn the ignition on for five seconds and then turn off, the ECU isn't running and nothing else interesting is going to happen until you fix that.

 

[Colt4G63 also]

If the CEL doesn't turn on when you first turn the ignition on for five seconds and then turn off, the ECU isn't running and nothing else interesting is going to happen until you fix that.

This

 

[CvilleColin]

It turns on for a few seconds, then off, then when I try to crank it, it turns on, I've replaced coil pack, power transistor, and cam angle sensor, but I replaced them with junkyard parts so.... Yeah, but it doesn't have a crank position sensor, it's a 1g

 

[DSM_2GB]

That is an turbo timer adapter harness. you need to find a new contector that plugs into the ignition switch.i would try to find out why that fuelpump wire burnt in the first place.

 

[jbeaton9292]

Ok so i bought a 93 talon es just a auto non turbo car and its not wanting to start its cranking but takes about 20 seconds or so before it fires im not sure what it would be any thaughts would be appreciated

 

[92AWDHX40]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/470121-car-not-wanting-start.html

 

[slickers111]

Another no start.

Issue is I got no spark. While driving, it started misfiring bad, and killed itself. This is a fresh rebuild motor, with about 50 miles on it, re-using sensors, pretty much everything outside the motor. 97 motor, on a 96 shell.

I checked the fuses, replaced PT & CPS, new plugs gapped at .27... No power to CPS either. Im about to change the crank sensor also. I dont have a voltage tester. Im at a loss on this one.

 

[Thugmaster1220]

So once again I turn to the world of knowledge on dsmtuners!
Here's the issue;

95 talon Awd/turbo (stock) died while driving one day. Stop light turned green. First gear all good, shift to second and the engine cuts off. Coast to parking lot, engine turns but will not turn over. Tow it home.
My first though was the timing skipped. Check timing-timing is good.
Second thought-engine seized (always thinking the worst!) pulled the valve cover. Preliminary check looked like the engine was okay.

Then I went about checking the fuel system. New plugs/plug wires. Distributor and injector all getting power. But at last, a dead fuel pump! Simple enough, new fuel pump in!
Try and start the car. Sounded like it wanted to turn over but wouldn't get the engine running.
Back to the drawing board. PCM... Ah hah! New PCM. Trying to start but will not turn over. As I'm turning the engine, the starter goes from cranking. To the clicking noise we all recognize when our battery is dead. Put a brand new battery in(for good measure) Clean and tighten battery terminals. Still, the starter goes click click click....
Pulled the starter today, had it tested at autozone, tests said starter is all good.

Quite honestly... I'm stumped! So I turn to the community, any ideas?!
Any help, little or small, is greatly appreciated! Thank you!

 

[Gerg]

Have you checked all the fuses? Some of them are hard to see when they've blown. This could contribute to the drained battery. But how did you check the distributor, our cars don't have a distributor just a coil pack.

 

[TSiAWD666]

If it's clicking then my money says its either loose/poor power/ground wires for the starter/engine, or the steering column's ignition switch. Man I've been posting this a lot lately...

 

[renovatdkitchen]

I too would put my money on your grounds. The more good grounds you have, the better your car will run.

 

[AWDtalontsi96]

Check your grounds , and clean them all. DSM's ecu is ground based ecu. It doesn't supply power to items it just completes grounds to make them work. So bad grounds equal no vroom vroom. There are ecu 3 ground points I believe on a 2g.

 

[92AWDHX40]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/articles-miscellaneous/217951-how-diagnose-no-start.html

check this out too.

 

[slickers111]

Crank sensor did no change either.
Still no spark.
No power to CAS, CPS, Coil.
Battery has a drain, and CEL doesnt come on when you turn the key at all.

 

[Rock2610d]

Check clutch switch.....since you were shifting when it happened. Probably not the issue but it is needed to start unless you modified it.

Check ignition switch.....it activates everything.....even PCM to tell fuel pump to come on. The switch could be bad.