LOOK at new Ebay 16g turbo and exhaust setup

[Silver 95 GST]

How does it look?

 

[donswan]

Sometimes you get a bad one thats all people are saying.

 

[eeeewidner]

Sometimes you get a bad one thats all people are saying.

Yeah. I got 3 of them before I got a descent one. I have since then changed my wastegate and had the turbo balanced by Wilkerson's here in Springfield. It works good now.

Just because it has cuts in the shaft doesn't mean it is balanced... I found out the hard way....

 

[grimdsm]

do you honestly believe every single word thats posted on the internet?
if you dont have first hand experience you have no room to talk here.

OP, dont mind the haters its YOUR car.
my ebay 16g is holding solid 18psi for the past year still NO shaftplay. i had a little trouble with the WG so i picked up a tial 38mm/ punishment racing SS O2 and the car is holding up solid

No i dont believe every thing on the internet, but when i read all the search results on ebay turbos and in every thread i find people talk about shaft play after 100 miles, melted wheels, poor balance, im gonna tend to believe they are no good ... Good luck with your ebay turbo

 

[Evil_speedracer]

I am curious as to how people who have these turbos think they work great? Unless you owned a nicer turbo you wouldn't know the difference. When I first got my car it had NGK bpr6ek plugs in it. It ran made power, well I swapped in the bpr7es plugs and it is a different car. There are a few good deals on ebay (I personally feel the f1 clutches are a great deal, and several forums back that up) but when you get a resounding no on an item it usually means its a waste of money. I don't know that people are necessarily being negative as much as they don't want people to waste their money time and possibly engine to save what amounts to penny's in the scope of an entire build up. I have spent countless hours fixing "rigged up" stuff on my car from the previous owners. You do it right and you have WAY more fun driving and racing (on the track of course) and end up with a great car that can straight bomb.

Everyone shoudl do brakes and suspension first anyway.

There is a HUGE difference between running a colder set of plus vs. running an ebay turbo to save money or whatever. If you switched to platinum plugs, or maybe bocsh plugs then it would be the same. I personally don't like doing things twice. I know that there is a much greater chance of less reliability out of this turbo no matter what. There is a reason why it is cheaper after all...

I would not suggest running any turbo that I would not run myself. I could hang this turbo on the wall in the garage and it would be the joke of the year even on the wall. I don't see how these setups are working for anyone at all.

EDIT: I will also note that I have never used one of these turbos. I have taken a look at it, and it is not something I would trust. If they think that zipties with that line is acceptable, then I reasonably have to question the quality overall. This is just logic to me. I hope that you guys don't think I am hating, just looking out for my fellow DSM brothers the best I can.

 

[jonjon8585]

I bet it wont last more than 2,000 miles and when it does blow do you really think he is gonna tell us all about it??? To all the ebay turbo guys GET A SECOND JOB and do it right the first time. I need my engine and turbo setup to be as reliable as it can get. Atleast when its broke down on the side of the road you can pop the hood and stare at that shiny manifold

 

[JayRolla]

I remember when the ebay turbos first started getting released. Jack installed one and watch the turbine housing crack on the first fire up of the car right in front of his eyes.

My buddy ran one for about a year with no issues and then the 16g started to push smoke the the cartridge started turning into a floppy dick.

I would never waste money on an ebay turbo. Lets see you push that turbo too 30-32psi daily an how long it lasts.

 

[habitatguy187]

No i dont believe every thing on the internet, but when i read all the search results on ebay turbos and in every thread i find people talk about shaf play after 100 miles, melted wheels, poor balance, im gonna tend to believe they are no good

Guess you haven't read that the supra guys use them all the time and don't have problems. Even so I wouldn't run one on my car but not because I'm afraid of the quality, I would just rather have a small 16g or a hx-35. I figure if I want the kind of spool that a big 16g offers I might as well get the hx-35 for the same price and 10lbs more flow.

 

[knochgoon24]

Good call on the zip ties being pastic so close to that runner. Here it is now with a metal fastening technique.

The problem with the water lines was they didn't fit. So i had to cut one of them (inside one), but then the hose was real close to the runner so I had to heat wrap it.

Thanks for the feedback so far. Keep it coming!

That water line is on the wrong way. You need to flip it around so it points down. If it doesn't fit, it may need some bending. Just stick a screw driver inside it to help support it and to get the bend where you want.

If it breaks, just use the one off your T25 (if you still have it). When I switched to a 16g from the T25, I reused my water lines. They needed a little bit of bending, but they fit.

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Flip the pipe over so the side facing the CHRA now faces the bolt head. Then bend it to fit.

 

[stevestevesteve]

i kno where to get a big 16g for 400$ shipping via overnight UPS. and its not a knock off ebay one...

but yeah i hope it works out!

 

[Levesque]

its like gambling you might get a good one , but the odds dont look to good

 

[Silver 95 GST]

That water line is on the wrong way. You need to flip it around so it points down. If it doesn't fit, it may need some bending. Just stick a screw driver inside it to help support it and to get the bend where you want.

If it breaks, just use the one off your T25 (if you still have it). When I switched to a 16g from the T25, I reused my water lines. They needed a little bit of bending, but they fit.

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Flip the pipe over so the side facing the CHRA now faces the bolt head. Then bend it to fit.

yeah I know that water line is messed up. It didn't fit the way you drew it. And i can't bend it because it's alot bigger diameter than the regular mitsu water lines and really stiff. And the water lines on my T-25 have already been bent twice and I'm afraid to bend them again in case they fatigue crack.

The lines that came with the turbo intend for you to use the head oil feed which I didn't want to do. So i "rigged" up the hose as you see it (which I put metal clamps on). So it should work fine. To clarify the turbo did not come built up with that crappy waterline setup. That's my own tomfoolery.

Also I like to hear all the input about ebay turbos.

AND I WILL POST IF IT BLOWS. I realize that some have blown but I wanted to see for myself. I'll let you know when I get some miles on it. I can't wait. Just have to get my walbro 255 in.

Thanks everyone!

 

[Dert]

I heard the 16G's from ssautochrome and cxracing are the best of the ebay turbos, they are the ones that are lasting and working the longest

 

[jdunbar10]

i had a ebay 16g and it blew the hella up!!

no it really did i had my bolt sher right off, sent the blades off into my intercooler pipe some of the shards stuck into he rubber and i ended up pulling out the shaft leaving the rest of the internals stuck inside the housings


but yes i have heard some of the ebays last a while, ill just never buy one

 

[AWD-TSI]

good luck bro. keep us posted.

 

[dsm-onster]

I bought an ebay turbo a while back. Yes it blew up right away. It acted like it wasn't balanced though it had a shaved compressor nut. It's likely that the shaved nut is just a ploy. And Actually could cause more harm than good since usually there's a large chunk removed to guarantee that you see the "balancing". It's cheap to shave the nut, but not so cheap to actually balance it.

. . . I too wonder why the ebay turbos sell, when you can get a used 16g for so little; or you can get a used h1c with the bolton housing and oil lines for about $400 total. Considering the ebay 16g turbos are laggier than MHI 16g turbos, the h1c has it beat in spool speed and flows as much as an 18g or 20g, depending on model, even in the bolton housing. . . Just doesn't make much sense. Ultimately if you want the name "16g" a real one can be had for SOO cheap used, and used is reliable. There's only 2 moving parts: the shaft and the actuator. If there's no lateral play and minimal radial play when full of oil, what's the difference in having a new turbo anyway . . . No one will ask if it's used . And if you sell your car because you have installed a 16g, it will be as "used" as the next guy who sells his car because it had a 16g. They are all used! because they are all installed.

So, really, ALL turbos are used once you install them and run them for a few thousand miles. I only buy new turbos for the warranty. How's the return policy on these ebay turbos???

There's no financial or performance advantage to chinese turbos.

 

[RedTurboEclipse]

Non moving ebay parts are ok, and there are many of us who will vouch for it.

But the turbos are still unreliable. Still a high failure rate.

It's a hit or miss, and reliability doesn't mean just 1 or 2 months, but at least over a year.

Good luck, will monitor the thread for your results.

 

[poppabear]

Looks good.

Good luck and keep us up to date.

Oh, BTW .. can you tell us what the Part# is on the turbo ?

Thanks

 

[my dreamt dsm]

I want to buy one, nah! keep us posted... to the op... I don't mind! Hey who would of thought that after these many years. Maybe they perfected the turbo. I bought many things for ebay via my over 130 positive feedback Somthings are great and then their are others that are not (cross fingers)

 

[Silver 95 GST]

Looks good.

Good luck and keep us up to date.

Oh, BTW .. can you tell us what the Part# is on the turbo ?

Thanks

The turbo came with a blue "Quality control card". It supposedly shows the test data from when the turbo was balanced. It looks kind of cheesy but it also has the serial number on it for that turbo.

Model: TD05-16G

SN: KD090002517

BTW: I got the car running with about 20 miles on the turbo so far. It's not a lot but ti didn't explode when I started it up. So I'm getting my walbro 255 in and then I will boost

I'll post how that goes.

Thanks

 

[Jeff99GS]

Dude its not gonna explode...80% of these people posting have probably never even owned a China Ebay turbo. They just perpetuate the Myth that they have HEARD on the interwebs all day. Which really helps NO ONE...its similar to the "all 4g63's crankwalk internet myth"

Now Every other 14 year old kid askes me if my car crankwalks cause he heard it on the interweb.

I had a 16g China Turbo on my car when I bought it off the Previous owner... he had it a few years, and then It lasted me all last year running it hard as hell at the track. Plus I never even let it cool down or anything.

When I removed it to install my new Turbo it had 0 shaft play. YES ZERO shaft play...Maybe I got lucky or maybe most of this crap you hear is just exactly that....CRAP

Secondly...they are NOT "ebay Turbo's" Ebay doesn't make turbos or anything for that matter. I can buy a NEW Holset on Ebat or a new garrett on Ebay....does that make them "ebay Turbos"?

NO

Ebay is a site to buy things whether its made in USA, China, Mexico, Japan

Just run the China turbo and keep fresh oil in the car...You will be fine.


The only difference that I notice is the spool up time is a little slower.

I also had a t3/t4 China Turbo on My 420a and it was fine for 3 or 4 years. So I guess I had pretty good luck with them so far. Obviously a MHi is gonna be BETTER. However they are MORE expensive.....and some people dont have the extra cash to blow on an old ass car.....I would NEVER buy a turbo used off anyone...too many shady people out there trying to sell off some broke ass shit.

 

[Dert]

Dude its not gonna explode...80% of these people posting have probably never even owned a China Ebay turbo. They just perpetuate the Myth that they have HEARD on the interwebs all day. Which really helps NO ONE...its similar to the "all 4g63's crankwalk internet myth"

Now Every other 14 year old kid askes me if my car crankwalks cause he heard it on the interweb.

I had a 16g China Turbo on my car when I bought it off the Previous owner... he had it a few years, and then It lasted me all last year running it hard as hell at the track. Plus I never even let it cool down or anything.

When I removed it to install my new Turbo it had 0 shaft play. YES ZERO shaft play...Maybe I got lucky or maybe most of this crap you hear is just exactly that....CRAP

Secondly...they are NOT "ebay Turbo's" Ebay doesn't make turbos or anything for that matter. I can buy a NEW Holset on Ebat or a new garrett on Ebay....does that make them "ebay Turbos"?

NO

Ebay is a site to buy things whether its made in USA, China, Mexico, Japan

Just run the China turbo and keep fresh oil in the car...You will be fine.


The only difference that I notice is the spool up time is a little slower.

I also had a t3/t4 China Turbo on My 420a and it was fine for 3 or 4 years. So I guess I had pretty good luck with them so far. Obviously a MHi is gonna be BETTER. However they are MORE expensive.....and some people dont have the extra cash to blow on an old ass car.....I would NEVER buy a turbo used off anyone...too many shady people out there trying to sell off some broke ass shit.

I agree 100% everybody always says they "heard" or "know someone" but yet nobody has first hand experience with one with pictures of their "ebay turbo" that "broke after 200 miles" if so many people have had this happen, then where are all the pictures to show proof of the destruction? Because like this guy said its a myth same as crankwalk, just look at every crankwalk poll, there are very few who have had it and a shitload who haven't

 

[Blurred Talon]

Cheap, fast reliable. Pick two.

Hope the turbo doesn't blow and take half your motor with it.

 

[BlackDSMCR]

how many psi are you boosting??

how many do you want to boost with you new turbo??

do you have any new picture???

 

[joe sobo]

I bought an ebay turbo a while back. Yes it blew up right away. It acted like it wasn't balanced though it had a shaved compressor nut. It's likely that the shaved nut is just a ploy. And Actually could cause more harm than good since usually there's a large chunk removed to guarantee that you see the "balancing". It's cheap to shave the nut, but not so cheap to actually balance it.

. . . I too wonder why the ebay turbos sell, when you can get a used 16g for so little; or you can get a used h1c with the bolton housing and oil lines for about $400 total. Considering the ebay 16g turbos are laggier than MHI 16g turbos, the h1c has it beat in spool speed and flows as much as an 18g or 20g, depending on model, even in the bolton housing. . . Just doesn't make much sense. Ultimately if you want the name "16g" a real one can be had for SOO cheap used, and used is reliable. There's only 2 moving parts: the shaft and the actuator. If there's no lateral play and minimal radial play when full of oil, what's the difference in having a new turbo anyway . . . No one will ask if it's used . And if you sell your car because you have installed a 16g, it will be as "used" as the next guy who sells his car because it had a 16g. They are all used! because they are all installed.

So, really, ALL turbos are used once you install them and run them for a few thousand miles. I only buy new turbos for the warranty. How's the return policy on these ebay turbos???

There's no financial or performance advantage to chinese turbos.

i was not even going to get in this thread, but since you brought up the warranty issue with these ebay turbo, now i feel i must.
i bought about 3 thousand dollars worth of internals from slowboy, including a brand new pte 61- something. i paid for it, waited a month for it, never recieved it so i called, for two more moths i was told it was back - ordered..................... after another full moth i had to settle for a smaller 61-31 i beleive it was. i asked about the warrany and who honors their warranty, and was told i tthey (slowboy) does. so after a complete engine build and running the car for three weeks with a 16g , i finally get my settled for turbo. on the car for 3 weeks and it starts smoking. i send it back to them and they tell me that they have to send it to pte to see if it was my fault. i put the oil feed line where they told me, installed the right way , never over boosted (like 18 psi max). after a week i call them and he (jason, which i dont think he still works there) told me that the oil was contaminated. im thinking " what? , contaminated, how? new oil as this turbo went on and my engine was already broken in" i argued with him for hours. he says that pte wont warranty it,,,,,,,,,,,, after he tells me that they themselves warranty it to me /// i did not buy the turbo from pte's website. i bought it from slowboy so please lets not talk about chinese or japanese and their warranties
so now i still have a 15 lb. paper weight

 

[vanilla gorilla]

I feel your pain joe sobo. There are VERY few vendors I choose to do business with.

As for the ebay turbos...I do not have personal experience with. A friend of mine has a B18 integra which he ran a complete ebay turbo setup on. It lasted for about a year, and ran hard for that year. Then the turbo blew.

I have first hand experience with cheap ass manifolds and none of that experience was good. Both of them cracked. But, then again I see other people with the same exact manifold that I had, and its holding up for them so....Its hit and miss I guess.

Me personally I would rather pay more for a quality unit, to have the peice of mind, of not having to worry about when its going to break. And know that it is a performer.

Hows the old saying go? Mod cheap, mod twice.