Junk Electric Supercharger or Turbo [Merged 1-7] intake fan gimmick

[dTERM]

http://www.electricsupercharger.com/


Anyone used this? They claim 5-15 HP gains...even on an already compressed intake system. 1-3 pounds of boost from an electric fan for $300. Let's hear it, anyone got one, anyone got pics? Howabout dyno test scores? The ones on the web site look good...but they ARE selling it.

 

[mitsugst97]

Also very important is this. N.O.S (not NAWZ) stands Nitrious Oxide Systems a company that makes and sells N2O kits. The F&F came out along time ago and it's pure stupidity has been proven time and time again. Let's try and move on from that.

Shush!!!! I know what NOS is and i know that they are a brand of N2O..
No correction was needed here. everyone knew what i was saying and i put Nawz as to not be brand specific... I have used nitrous oxide way before F&F ever came out, so im not just a band wagon junkie.

I hate when people correct someone when no correction is needed.

and it stands for Nitrous Oxide,,, it doesn't " stand Nitous Oxide"

 

[ALLBoostAWD]

This is a good topic for me. I have tried this, not this particular electric charger, but a smaller intake tube mounted electric fan. I bought a 3" fan pushing 275 cfm for $50 from boatersworld.com. I stuck a filter on the end of it, hook'd it up to my V-DUB and did 3, 3rd gear pulls.
2001, GTI, VR6
peak power
1st pull - ABD short ram intake, no charger, 163Hp 168 Tq

2nd Pull - ABD intake, charger mounted but not on, 162HP 165Tq

3rd Pull - ABD intake, Charger mounted and turned on, 172HP 173Tq

So yes they do work. I gained 9 GROUND HP and 5 TQ. There was a noticable increase in power all the way across the power bands to peak. And all of this costed me about $75. It really surprised the hell out of all of us. We all thought it would hurt the power but it didnt.

It did however mess with my Mass Air Flow sensor throwing it way the hell off after a run on the street. Drivibility sucked after racing with it on for a minute but it would re-learn itself.

 

[Perfect Tool]

What a waste of money, don't get it. It doesn't even work man, the horsepower you get isn't worth it.

 

[black93es]

What a waste of money, don't get it. It doesn't even work man, the horsepower you get isn't worth it.

Yeah I sort of agree with you on that, but like someone else said, we need people who are willing to try these little mods, and report back. We saw the results, so it's up for everyone else to make their decision...me personally "as I quote myself" would never be caught with that on my car.

 

[shiftdrift06]

Why are people so bent against this? I can see that there is evidents from both sides. However if he wants to buy it, then let him. It is not your money or hurting you. And who knows, this could prove many wrong or just be a reference for the future.

 

[sakrafice]

wish i could find the video that these guys were dynoing cars using a leaf blower it would inspire him some more

 

[GVR4592]

That video is on www.Honda-Tech.com, I'll see if I can find it.

 

[GVR4592]

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player...F-416D-9CFD-A1AD23CA9564&term=leaf+blower&p=0

I found it on streetfire.

 

[L2RTSiAWD]

Now then. Stay on topic or don't post.

 

[7"exhaust_tip]

obviously you guys have never heard of the e-ram. http://www.electricsupercharger.com/

one of my neighbors has it on their grand caravan and you can hear that high pitched spoolin' blow dryin sound all the way down the street. sounds hilarious.

anyways, go ahead and get it, try it out, dyno it, and come back and post your results.

 

[Jonathanlc05]

hahaha did the e-ram do anything?

 

[Xero_Tolerance]

I think it's a great idea to use electricity to add power to N/T cars. It's basically free HP as long as you don't wear out your alternator and/or battery. I'm in the process of creating a little electric supercharger of my own that's similar to the one you bought. right now I have an electric blower that creates 800cfm so I'm using the motor from that to power the turbo and gear it to aim for 50-60k RPM so hopefully I can hit maybe 6-7psi. Another aspect of the electric turbo that people don't think about is the fact that the air being forced in the engine is WAY cooler than that of a regular turbo because there's no exhaust gas to heat it way up. I'm buying the intake side of a turbo for about $30 and I already have the electric motor so the whole setup won't be very expensive and will hopefully add a decent amount of HP considering it will just be a bolt-on.

If no one ever experimented with new types of technology then there would never be any new inventions so all you haters that are saying it will never work should just keep your mouth shut and let us people who have fun coming up with new ideas do our shit. Don't comment on what you don't know and only assume.

 

[Kanda]

If they worked, the manufacturers would put them on new cars. Enough said!!

 

[prplhz96]

If they worked, the manufacturers would put them on new cars. Enough said!!

now that is funny stuff

 

[BlackRaptor]

The eletric supercharger has always interested me.
I guess the idea and how simple they are.
I agree they will never come close to a real supercharer or turbo but i find tinkering with stuff like this kinda fun.
I was given two eletric superchargers they say they make They say upto 1000 cfm which seems high.
I'm going to move the battery and build two of these blowers into the car and get a higher output alternator because mine is shot anyways. Kinda wondering what two of these things can do running together. not like i have anything to lose they where free.

 

[jastermerrel]

What has happened to this site? Its turning into a bunch of whinning and name calling. Where are the mods to keep these people off? This used to be a respectable site with members who were willing to provide useful input.

On topic: As someone said in an earlier post...try it and give us the results. Seems that you are just getting people's "biased opinions" on this.

 

[Kanda]

obviously you guys have never heard of the e-ram. http://www.electricsupercharger.com/

one of my neighbors has it on their grand caravan and you can hear that high pitched spoolin' blow dryin sound all the way down the street. sounds hilarious.

anyways, go ahead and get it, try it out, dyno it, and come back and post your results.

The e-ram is a marine exhaust fan. Available for about $45 at most marine supply stores. Save some money and go to the boat store.

 

[MyBeatGSX]

I think most of you guys are missing something very important. Electric fans like that E-Ram crap aren't designed to make boost. I don't care if it flows 2389473284732894072389472389047cfm, when the air starts to back up, it WILL NOT compress it. So you have nothing. Someone hook this up with a boost gauge and I guarantee you don't see positive manifold pressure. Plain and simple, EBay style electric FANS are not compressors and will do nothing for power.

Those Thomas Knight blowers are actual Eaton blowers run by electric motors, its a far cry from these computer fans you guys are talking about.

Another aspect of the electric turbo that people don't think about is the fact that the air being forced in the engine is WAY cooler than that of a regular turbo because there's no exhaust gas to heat it way up

This is also false. Exhaust heat accounts for probably about <5% of the heat turbos create. Its the actual compressing of the air that causes it to heat up. I doubt if you'd see any differance in temps.

 

[rampridersrider]

I read this article in Turbo Magazine some time ago and thought it imperative to bring it up. Its about cars that don't have any modability to them other than full on custom setups. Not many people make bolt on turbo kits and what not for a lot of cars, which makes since cause not a lot of Geo Prizm owners turbocharge there vehicles so it would be a flop. Thomas Knight invented an electric supercharger for cars just as this. To sum up the article they took a stock Nissan Altima with a KADE 2.4 l and made 115 hp and 144 lb ft. After the electric charger install they netted 177 whp and 211 lb ft at 5 psi, then with 8 psi netted 208 whp and 226 lb ft of torque. Stock it ran low 18s at 78 mph with a 3800 lb car, with only 5 psi from the charger it made a best run of 15.5 at 89 with 2.4 60 fts in an automatic car. It also has its cons with you can read in the article towards the bottom of you like. You can all read the article if you want. I found it very interesting and also a good idea. Hopefully this will help deminish some of the doubters in the previous posts. If you have similar results you could definetly make some very solid numbers and open peoples eyes up a little bit. With upgraded fuel and good tuning you could really max that thing out and have quite a fun car on your hands. Post your results please, and happy boosting.

www.turbomagazine.com/tech/0406tur_knight_turbo_electric_supercharger/index.html

 

[MyBeatGSX]

Ok come on guys, relax.


But wow, at that picture!

 

[xveganxcowboyx]

Someone hook this up with a boost gauge and I guarantee you don't see positive manifold pressure.

This is really the best way to test what it will actually produce, besides dynoing it. If someone ever feels like lending me one of these things I'll gladly plumb one in and hook it to a battery. Well see if it effects boost/vacuum at all.

 

[99gst_racer]

Its turning into a bunch of whinning and name calling. Where are the mods to keep these people off?

You're right, but if you don't report the bad posts, they will remain until one of us stumbles across them. It takes a little bit of active participation amongst all members to ensure the information here doesn't become soaked with BS.



With that being said, STAY ON TOPIC AND LEAVE THE BS OUT OF THE FORUMS!

This thread has been edited several times, and you all have already been warned by John (post #46). If the thread strays away again, it will be locked for certain. And the creditworthy member(s) will be publicly whipped for one e-week, and so on and so forth.

Stay on topic - this is your final warning.

 

[speedy_talon28]

Ok, I am going to hook it up tomorrow along with my boost gauge to see what it does?

 

[MrBoxx]

Are you going to dyno the car to get a baseline before you install it, or are you going to install it, dyno the car with the supercharger off, then dyno again with it on? I'm concerned with how the airflow into the engine will be affected by the supercharger blocking the intake tract with it off, and since it's going to be off for the majority of the time, this is something to look at how it will affect your average driving performance and your gas mileage.

In any case, please get pictures of your install for everyone's future reference. In my opinion, "How to install a ______-brand electric supercharger in a NT DSM" would make a great tech article for people. I'm personally interested in how the whole thing fits in the engine bay and everything. If you don't have a digital camera, please borrow one and get us some pictures. Good luck with everything.

 

[Jeremoose]

Are you going to dyno the car to get a baseline before you install it, or are you going to install it, dyno the car with the supercharger off, then dyno again with it on? I'm concerned with how the airflow into the engine will be affected by the supercharger blocking the intake tract with it off, and since it's going to be off for the majority of the time, this is something to look at how it will affect your average driving performance and your gas mileage.

In any case, please get pictures of your install for everyone's future reference. In my opinion, "How to install a ______-brand electric supercharger in a NT DSM" would make a great tech article for people. I'm personally interested in how the whole thing fits in the engine bay and everything. If you don't have a digital camera, please borrow one and get us some pictures. Good luck with everything.

I have a freind with an NT dsm that's really interested in electric superchargers; make sure to get us some pictures.