Junk Electric Supercharger or Turbo [Merged 1-7] intake fan gimmick

[dTERM]

http://www.electricsupercharger.com/


Anyone used this? They claim 5-15 HP gains...even on an already compressed intake system. 1-3 pounds of boost from an electric fan for $300. Let's hear it, anyone got one, anyone got pics? Howabout dyno test scores? The ones on the web site look good...but they ARE selling it.

 

[Booster-Shot]

Well, atleast if it doesn't work I could always modifi it with a shaft and pully so it's engine driven

Thank god.

 

[Blue2GFWD]

it might give some power maybe like 3-5 psi ive seen vids of blowdryers giving you 10 -20 hp gain so it may work just might not do much.if its cheap have at it

 

[ilikespeeding]

it might give some power maybe like 3-5 psi ive seen vids of blowdryers giving you 10 -20 hp gain so it may work just might not do much.if its cheap have at it

You say that until it ruins your motor.

 

[MadTripper]

Don't get it.

No electric motor can spin a turbine as fast as a belt or rushing air. You won't get very good if any positive results from this thing. You're wasting your money if you buy it.

Don't get it

I think you get my point...

Electric motors spin fast enough. Look at a dremel, they spin 50K RPMs (granted its AC) and if you couple that with a 1:2 gear/pulley ratio, you have 100K RPMs. I would imagine the manf. of that unit compensated for the direct drive by using a more aggressive blade angle to increase the flow.

For the 13 seconds that they run. Plus, speed is irrevellent. CFM is where its at.

Why would you think it will only run for 13 seconds? If you added a beefier alternator, you could run it as needed. I'm not sure what the current pull is on this particular model but I doubt its pulling 10 amps at startup. Use a gel-cell and perhaps a 1 farad cap and I'd bet you could run it on a stock alternator indefinitely since max current pull is at startup for electric motors.

I say give it a try and let us know. Apparently noone can speak from first hand experience so everything in this thread is pure speculation. Do you have a link to the page or manufacturer? I'd be interested to see the control interface for this. From the pic, it looks like you would just wire it in and of course that would give a constant voltage (or pretty close to it) which in turn would produce constant boost at all times and that seems wrong.

Tripper

 

[blcknspo0ln]

'til this day, I cannot understand why people try to reinvent the wheel.

 

[2DaTrakNow]

If you have you heart set on an electric supercharger, get 4 or 5 of them, then run all of them into the same T. That would give you a lot of boost**

Dont forget to read the fine print either. --->

**The information giving is not responsible for you getting made fun of.

 

[drivemusicnow]

****NEWS FLASH****


They do make electric superchargers that work. They suck up a TON of power and typically do only run for a 15-20 second period of time. They can add significant power gains for a small amount of time, and then must wait until their SEPERATE capacitors/batteries charge. I think they also add a fair amount of weight with those capacitors and battery.


Overall, not really a worthwhile modification, however it IS possible to do. It is all a matter of airflow. if you can get an electric motor to push 500cfm of air at 20psi, It will work for as long as the power supply works.

 

[mitsugst97]

what i have seen of these, it's like a CHEAP nos setup, meaning that you set it up to kick on at a certain throttle postion via a switch (like a nawz kit). but i dont think there is much adjustment you can do.
You could reduce the "boost" that it puts out by putting resistors in-line with the power.
I dont see how this could be progressive.
Like i said, good luck.

You could always hook it up to a NAWZ button on your steering wheel and use it "on demand"

 

[SkyLineGtR-R34]

what i have seen of these, it's like a CHEAP nos setup, meaning that you set it up to kick on at a certain throttle postion via a switch (like a nawz kit). but i dont think there is much adjustment you can do.
You could reduce the "boost" that it puts out by putting resistors in-line with the power.
I dont see how this could be progressive.
Like i said, good luck.

You could always hook it up to a NAWZ button on your steering wheel and use it "on demand"

I bet for the price of that hair dryer he could get a wet n2o kit and have better results.

 

[boostedinaz]

I bet for the price of that hair dryer he could get a wet n2o kit and have better results.

Except he wasn't talking about N2O he was talking about NAWZ!!1111

'til this day, I cannot understand why people try to reinvent the wheel.

Me either.


You can have all kinds of people come in here and give you all this info on how it MIGHT work, but when it all comes down to it it just won't work the way you want it to. Sorry hate to burst your bubble but you wasted money and will soon waste even more if you try to make it "work."

Will the motor spin the wheel, probably, does the motor have enough RPM, probably, will all of this combined give you the HP you are after over and over again with no problems, nope.

Again good luck.

 

[mitsugst97]

I bet for the price of that hair dryer he could get a wet n2o kit and have better results.

Me too, and atleast you can change the jets on a nawz setup..and the wet kit adds more fuel.... and we all know fuel is important..

 

[Street Surgeon]

Looks like a great purchase, good luck with it!

 

[boostedinaz]

Me too, and atleast you can change the jets on a nawz setup..and the wet kit adds more fuel.... and we all know fuel is important..

Also very important is this. N.O.S (not NAWZ) stands Nitrious Oxide Systems a company that makes and sells N2O kits. The F&F came out along time ago and it's pure stupidity has been proven time and time again. Let's try and move on from that.

 

[97GS-TSpyder]

Don't get it.

No electric motor can spin a turbine as fast as a belt or rushing air. You won't get very good if any positive results from this thing. You're wasting your money if you buy it.

Don't get it

I think you get my point...

true however there was a setup with 3 motors that actualyl induced almsot 14 psi on a motor.....it works

 

[TrboANTsi]

Can we please just let the guy buy his hairdryer and try to succeed in his efforts..Although i love to laugh at other peoples misfortune and failure, it still is his idea. Yes it might have been done but..he might have a trick or an idea that someone else didnt. To be honest id be surprised as hell if it works for him, but id give him props for tryin. We all try to do something different at some point in time, So do it !!! its all good!

 

[black93es]

as for the "ecectric supercharger" yeah take it from me, a relative expert on N/T...ive tried one on my buddys shit-vic (civic) and it acctually kinda worked, nothing impressive...but you could tell something was there...i dunno, try it out, that ones metal and looks pretty heavy duty, his was one of those plastic eBay ones, but it produced 3psi, i was kinda amazed. i wanna see how that one might work.....but you could never catch one on my car..HAHA. Peace n good luck!

 

[xveganxcowboyx]

Why would you think it will only run for 13 seconds? If you added a beefier alternator, you could run it as needed. I'm not sure what the current pull is on this particular model but I doubt its pulling 10 amps at startup. Use a gel-cell and perhaps a 1 farad cap and I'd bet you could run it on a stock alternator indefinitely since max current pull is at startup for electric motors.

I say give it a try and let us know. Apparently noone can speak from first hand experience so everything in this thread is pure speculation. Do you have a link to the page or manufacturer? I'd be interested to see the control interface for this. From the pic, it looks like you would just wire it in and of course that would give a constant voltage (or pretty close to it) which in turn would produce constant boost at all times and that seems wrong.

Tripper

Read the posy by drivemusicnow. He has all the facts simply put. The energy draw for electric super-chargers that actually replicate the boost of a real super-charger pull so much current they draw a battery down in seconds.

Speed is one thing, CFM is another. Hook some big old fan blades up to that same dremel and see how muich air it actually moves.

 

[MadTripper]

I found a quick read for those interested.

Scroll down to the "Volts and Amps to Horsepower" section.

http://www.dansdata.com/danletters105.htm



I think that this would still make a fun project however there are some considerations. As stated in most threads and articles, it is tough to try and use this as a primary performance upgrade. There is a lot more you can do to get more power for the same amount (or less) of money. This would however be an interesting upgrade for people who already own turbos in that you could possibly get rid of some lag before your conventional turbo spools. Again I have to reference the VW products that use a supercharger and turbocharger to accomplish this.

Tripper

 

[boostedinaz]

Another thing to think about is that once this loses power from the batteries or just can't crank out enough air it will actually become a restriction.

 

[TrboANTsi]

wow now thats a hairdryer!

 

[MrBoxx]

Tell you what, speedy_talon28: Go dyno your car as it is right now. Get a baseline horsepower number. Install the electric supercharger that you have decided on. Dyno again and post the results for everyone to see.

This does a few things:
-A. It settles once and for all any possible increase in horsepower that may or may not come from this type of modification. Your experience will be used in the future for any other tuner looking into this as a possibility. Your results will be linked to and referred to as "a verifiable experiment," and you could make a whole tech article out of your install and testing processes. Cool, huh?
-B. A dyno test will give you an objective look at how much performance you may or may not have gained, rather than you coming back here after you install it and saying "My car feels faster." That means absolutely nothing to 99% of the people here. We want a dyno graph showing exactly how the hp/torque curve of your car changed.

If you've already decided on getting it or have already paid for it and are just waiting for it to be delivered, why not turn your purchase into a productive experience for the rest of DSMtuners and try dyno-testing it for the rest of us?

 

[blcknspo0ln]

why not turn your purchase into a productive experience for the rest of DSMtuners and try dyno-testing it for the rest of us?

That would be pleasant idea

 

[drivemusicnow]

Hear Hear.


Do it.... just Do it. DOOO it.

 

[speedy_talon28]

that's what was going to do

 

[leet]

Good luck with that.. that chick in the picture has the right idea