Junk Electric Supercharger or Turbo [Merged 1-7] intake fan gimmick

[dTERM]

http://www.electricsupercharger.com/


Anyone used this? They claim 5-15 HP gains...even on an already compressed intake system. 1-3 pounds of boost from an electric fan for $300. Let's hear it, anyone got one, anyone got pics? Howabout dyno test scores? The ones on the web site look good...but they ARE selling it.

 

[IceDragon]

I too am playing with ideas... but my idea's now are geared towards a belt driven way to turn some type of fan or turbine inside the intake to pull the air in... i dunno, i am trying to figure this out... I just want to do something noones done before.

 

[Raph]

You mean that G lader style on the coraddos??

You ever seen those those "comprex" setups..a kinda exhaust "roots type" blower..Mazda tried it..no good,gain=s too little, Isuzu tried it too)diesel) the effects weren't noticeable when compared to an conventional turbo..

 

[Larry L]

The RAM Electric Supercharger works, but only puts out 1 psi, And they are stackable. Can run 2 in series and put out just over 2 psi. But the drawback is that you need a car batery in the trunk to run it.

 

[IceDragon]

what if we put those crappy tornado pieces to good use... i wonder if they would make a good fan if spun at the appropriate speed... what if you could enclose one of those in some sort of unit and put a belt around it to spin it... .... ...

 

[Defiant]

We're gong to start urine testing in here.

No, hair samples.

I think we'd better start doing a chromosome count, too.

 

[IceDragon]

Yeah... I fail all of those tests... completely... I just thought it'd be really cool to have a supercharged 4g63...

 

[Catbox_95]

Ok, since we're already laughing, here's more fuel for ya-
I built an electric supercharger. I took an R/C electric jet turbine that runs off of 7.2 volts and plugged it into the 12 volt car battery. I fit it into the intake tube (it actually fit like a glove) and ran a switch into the cab. This was on my 4.6 liter Dodge Dakota V8. It was loud, ran a LOT of air threw. You could actually hear it over the motor.

So... The results? Absolutely nothing! No difference in anything at all, except for some swooshing noises! But it was a fun experiment none-the-less. It took a couple hours and $0 to try. Plus, I made a REALLY cool video of the whole thing!

 

[IceDragon]

yeah dude... but thats an 8 cylinder... your not gonna notice getting like 30cfm more air on something like that as much as you are on a 4... I dunno... i'm weird... and stubborn if you all haven't noticed

Just a question also... how many CFM do our engines take at wide open throttle??? Sorry, just wondering for one of my tinkering ideas....

 

[tbTalonES94]

CFM matters on a lot of things. Sometimes i read 1800cfm and i know some people that can push 2200. I know some people that push abou 1500. It verys a lot and of course on an N/A it will be a lower number then a properly tuned and running turbo car. Lets just say that the 14b can flow 450cfm at a certain psi---brain fart. If you can match that or get close to it then you got yourself a product. If you cant then you are wasting your time. If it is going to be in line with the intake then it has to completely unrestrictive while its not running or you will lose power. If you want to supercharge your car then buy a centrifical supercharger and fabricate something for it to run with your engine. Good luck.

 

[leakyfaucet]

I think we'd better start doing a chromosome count, too.

After reading the first few posts after mine, I'm going to have to agree with you...

I too am playing with ideas... but my idea's now are geared towards a belt driven way to turn some type of fan or turbine inside the intake to pull the air in... i dunno, i am trying to figure this out... I just want to do something noones done before.

This sounds like a really good idea that definetly hasn't already been invented! :laugh:

 

[IceDragon]

so you caught my joke... but yeah... so... I am to shoot for what is it, 450CFM aye? I am so gonna just mess around till 1 of 2 things happens... either it works... or it blows up my engine and I buy a honda and use it to mow my lawn....

 

[LaserDad91]

Winning racers don't have any ego about it. It's too much damned work to enjoy.

I don't agree with that one. Racing is all about "ego", being the fastest, the best, etc. Just like any sport or athlete. If it were not for "ego" which in turn drives a competitive spirit, there is no reason to do all the hard work. If the "ego" gets larger than the "common sense" or "respect", then there is a great potential for catastrophic failure! You can have and balence all three. But, how many "world champions" in any motorsport do not have some sort of "ego". NONE.

EDIT: I missed the "electric" part in the original post. My bad.

 

[IceDragon]

I have found a fan that moves 440cfm... http://shop.store.yahoo.com/77hydro-store/ecopl6infan4.html or http://shop.store.yahoo.com/77hydro-store/ac46blow.html ... but wouldn't forcing in air on an N/T mess something up... trying to push in air on a motor that isn't designed for it???

 

[tbTalonES94]

dude the second one is HUGE. Those are like garage space coolers. Those move that much air because they are soo big. The 1st one i dont think would fit in your intake track but you could try. Also it runs off of 120v supply so you would have to convert that to 12v.Try to steer away from the "fan" thing. I dont think you are going to find a fan out there that could flow enough or give you a decent amount of power. But you never know....impress all of us.

 

[IceDragon]

Yeah... I just noticed how huge they are too... screw it... FIRST i will do everything thats been done and proven to work... THAN play around and blow up my motor...

 

[speedy_talon28]

I just decided to get this instead of making one.

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[ilikespeeding]

Why would you want that?

 

[mitsugst97]

Soo, you are hooking a "blow dryer" up to your car?
Good luck with that. I guess it couldn't hurt.

 

[phillabaum03]

Well atleast it looks better then them shitty ones you hook on the end of you intake.

 

[DSMcrazy3]

Don't get it.

No electric motor can spin a turbine as fast as a belt or rushing air. You won't get very good if any positive results from this thing. You're wasting your money if you buy it.

Don't get it

I think you get my point...

 

[Booster-Shot]

Don't get it.

No electric motor can spin a turbine as fast as a belt or rushing air. You won't get very good if any positive results from this thing. You're wasting your money if you buy it.

Don't get it

I think you get my point...

It sounds like were already too late.

 

[speedy_talon28]

Well, atleast if it doesn't work I could always modifi it with a shaft and pully so it's engine driven

 

[4BangR-x]

Well electric motors can actually spin faster then any engine, however, I highly doubt this will give you much power...

 

[ilikespeeding]

Well electric motors can actually spin faster then any engine, however, I highly doubt this will give you much power...

For the 13 seconds that they run. Plus, speed is irrevellent. CFM is where its at.

 

[DSMcrazy3]

Well, atleast if it doesn't work I could always modifi it with a shaft and pully so it's engine driven

Sorry to be the barer of bad news, but I highly doubt that will work. That impeller isn't going to be able to handle the thrust generated with a pulley/rod like a normal supercharger. Like I said that electric motor isn't going to spin fast ehough, therefore the other parts aren't made to handle that much more than what is generally going to be giving them. Not to mention to attatch a shaft to it, you would have to get it perfectly mounted or else it will tear itself apart upon operation, possibly forcing blades on that turbine into your motor, potentially killing it.


This just has bad news written all over it man. I would suggest re-selling it, and putting a real kit together that you know won't fail on you.