Has anyone ran a Comp Turbo(innovative Turbo)??

[AM3LJ]

Just wanted to know how these turbos compare to other popular turbo brands? Im interested in buying a ct467 but i just never heard of them. So an info would be great! thanks.

Also if you know of any other turbo that would compare to it for under 1000 just let me know.

 

[spoolin ddub]

Not to mention comp machine their own center sections in house from a block of aluminum. This means cooler temp under the hood. I love my custom 6265 unit it just simply puts to shame my old borg warner s259

Oh Wow. I didn't realize you went with Comp's billet 62mm. That's was a good choice. I'm glad you like it. I knew you would .

 

[JusMX141]

Checking out Comp's website I now see they've modeled many of their popular T3 and T4 framed turbochargers after the PTE numbering system. This is great for two reasons- it allows the customer to become familiar with a turbo based on it size, and it also allows the customer to compare between brands....giving them the benefit of price-shopping or shopping based on additional benefits.

For example, I'm NOT a PTE fan based on their journal bearing turbo reliability and customer support...any time you send something back for warranty, the reason it failed is either due to lack of oil or oil contamination- it has nothing to do with them making a shitty product. Now I understand PTE's ball bearing turbos are fine, but if there's not much price difference between the PTE 6262 and the Comp 6262 but the Comp unit is rebuildable, guess who's getting my business?

 

[keltalon]

Oh Wow. I didn't realize you went with Comp's billet 62mm. That's was a good choice. I'm glad you like it. I knew you would .

Yeah I read their site, search Google for any bad reviews couldn't find any, research similar turbo and compared to comp and couldn't find nothing but good! So I called up Justin at comp and they had me to send in all my mods, current dyno numbers, current turbo information and they put together a custom unit to fit my needs. I am more than please with this set up. I had some Cp piston issues therefore I have not tested the turbo yet on the dyno but that is coming soon.

 

[tenn-gsx]

I have a custom built unit by Comp. I dont have any numbers yet and might not have anything but a ECMlink log to use as proof indefinately. Im not exactly worried about specific numbers enough to warrant a 3-4 hour trip to the nearest AWD dyno. I will post up the specs of the turbo and my engine build once I have everything back together to get some real results off of my set up. Including 1/4 and 1/8 times. All that I can definately say about the turbo at this time is that it was performing better than my FP3575 at low boost.(somewhere arround 18-22psi)

 

[keltalon]

Here is some pics of mine.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/turbo-system-tech/381516-my-turbo-upgrade.html

 

[Ludachris]

Every aftermarket turbo built is generally modeled after something built by a manufacturer like Garrett. Take the popular FP3065, for example...FP takes a GT3076R cartridge, installs a GT35R compressor and cover, then installs a DSM bolt-on turbine housing and sells it as a 3065 which is a proven turbo. The best part about it is FP gives full credit for the durability of their turbos to Garrett in the listing for any of their turbos using the GT center housing.

Along comes Comp turbo (formerly Innovative turbo) claiming to have reinvented the wheel, when anyone surfing through their catalogs can tell you that many of their center housings and compressor wheel designs are visually identical as well as identical in size and measurement to Garrett and BW wheels that have been around a very long time. Of course there is not going to be any documentation of this from Comp; why give out one of their biggest secrets?

Comp's turbos look impressive, and their rebuildable ball bearing center housings are a stroke of genius....but my biggest concern before shelling out for one of their units priced 30-50% higher than a comparable Garrett would have to be is Comp going to be around when I need to get my turbo rebuilt, or are they going to close their doors in a few years like Innovative did in 2007?

So far we have a 472whp dyno chart which doesn't impress me in the least for the asking price of the unit- but I'm like you, I'll be tuned in to see where this goes in the future.

Valid points Justin. When the manufacturer has identical specs but doesn't give more info you are left to draw your own conclusions. From what some keep pointing out though is that there isn't a big price jump like you've pointed out.

In any event, I guess I'd just like to see some more constructive discussions when a new product comes out instead of seeing the owners of competing products tear it down, like what seems to happen almost all the time. Seems like it would do the community good.

 

[Ludachris]

I generally base my expectations for any turbocharger off of real-world results, not necessarily what shop cars with unlimited funds can pull off. I want to know what the guy who tinkers with his car in the evenings after work and races it on the weekends can do, not what the guy who puts in a 40-hour week doing nothing but making his car faster can do.....mostly because I want to know what works for 99.9% of the potential customer base and not just the .1% that throws every hour they're awake and every dime they earn into their car.

That is why reliability is so important to me- nobody wants a turbo that requires constant attention. This is why I say the most impressive thing about Comp's ball bearing setup is that it's rebuildable, so you get the durability of a ball bearing turbo which is able to be rebuilt in the event of a problem....and we all know DSM's have their share of issues.

From what I know of Revolution Motorsport, it's not like AMS or Buschur. It's a small operation and the guy running it is more along the lines of the type of person you explained you're looking for data from. Just because people try and brand a shop name on a car build to help market their business doesn't mean the car is built by the type of shop we tend to picture in our minds. Half the time it's one guy doing the build just like you and me, especially in the DSM market.

 

[rEclipserGST]

Why have you not posted a video, a dyno sheet, tons of pix of anything? Also, why do you keep converting your mustang dyno numbers to dynojet? How would you even do that accurately without putting your car ON a dynojet? Shade in that area.

I've spent a lil too much time on this thread, I feel as though I've been ripped off like those dumb titled youtube vids. Damn kids

 

[JusMX141]

From what some keep pointing out though is that there isn't a big price jump like you've pointed out.

Hard to say because I've yet to see any publicly-viewable pricing on Comp's website...you're supposed to inquire about every turbo you may be interested in. I don't know why they want to keep this pricing a secret, but the only info I can find has the Comp 6262 triple ball bearing priced around $1800, and S&R has the PTE HP6262 for $1400- so there's your 30% difference in a comparable ball-bearing turbo with equal compressor build material and wheel size.

From what I know of Revolution Motorsport, it's not like AMS or Buschur. It's a small operation and the guy running it is more along the lines of the type of person you explained you're looking for data from. Just because people try and brand a shop name on a car build to help market their business doesn't mean the car is built by the type of shop we tend to picture in our minds. Half the time it's one guy doing the build just like you and me, especially in the DSM market.

That's great as long as the guy running the show is not another Curt Brown performing miracles with setups that most of the population cannot do, like 10.3 @ 133 with a street-driven 16G-powered car or 9.10 @ 160 / 800+whp from a T3-based FP 3586HTA. Guys like that are going to make power no matter what is bolted to their manifolds.

 

[Ludachris]

Hard to say because I've yet to see any publicly-viewable pricing on Comp's website...you're supposed to inquire about every turbo you may be interested in. I don't know why they want to keep this pricing a secret, but the only info I can find has the Comp 6262 triple ball bearing priced around $1800, and S&R has the PTE HP6262 for $1400- so there's your 30% difference in a comparable ball-bearing turbo with equal compressor build material and wheel size.

Maybe we'll see more vendors posting pricing soon.

That's great as long as the guy running the show is not another Curt Brown performing miracles with setups that most of the population cannot do, like 10.3 @ 133 with a street-driven 16G-powered car or 9.10 @ 160 / 800+whp from a T3-based FP 3586HTA. Guys like that are going to make power no matter what is bolted to their manifolds.

If that were the case, you'd already know the guy like you do Curt Brown, as would everyone else.

 

[AutoMods]

Comp turbo video

I really don't know the specs or any details on this turbo or setup. But I thought it was a fun video and the author says its a comp turbo.

I've never seen a turbo spin this long after shutoff, especially just coming off of an idle and it spins for another 45 seconds

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[keltalon]

Comp turbo video

I really don't know the specs or any details on this turbo or setup. But I thought it was a fun video and the author says its a comp turbo.

I've never seen a turbo spin this long after shutoff, especially just coming off of an idle and it spins for another 45 seconds

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Mybe other comp turbo users will chim in mine spins forever after I turn my engine off. Infact you can take your hand and spin the thing and it just keep going and going. Maygbe this is why it boost faster than the old bw s259 and flow a low more air up top. 70lbs to be exact.

 

[JusMX141]

Maygbe this is why it boost faster than the old bw s259 and flow a low more air up top.

Faster spool and/or better transient boost response on the ball bearing unit, sure....but you're comparing a 59mm cast compressor to a 62mm billet compressor, so obviously peak airflow should be greater with the billet compressor.

 

[spoolin ddub]

Yeah it has to have oil pressure but once it does its ridiculous how easy the turbine spins. I have a video of the turbo 5-10 seconds after shutdown in another thread. My phone can't post it so I'll post it later. I get positive boost around 3200rpm in 3rd gear. It surges like crazy for a while but it does try to come on fairly quickly. I'll have the last bug worked out and put down some real numbers and finally hit the track this year.

 

[keltalon]

Faster spool and/or better transient boost response on the ball bearing unit, sure....but you're comparing a 59mm cast compressor to a 62mm billet compressor, so obviously peak airflow should be greater with the billet compressor.

Well to out perform in both directions speaks volumes for me The turbo is just plain awesome!

 

[dsm-onster]

Why have you not posted a video, a dyno sheet, tons of pix of anything?

I think that would be to the benefit of all here discussing or interested in these turbochargers. . .

 

[spoolin ddub]

I only have a few vids. I'll be back with more in the spring once the manifold is welded .

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Custom 70mm turbo. 70mm compressor/71mm exducer turbine

 

[keltalon]

I only have a few vids. I'll be back with more in the spring once the manifold is welded .

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Nice!

 

[dsm-onster]

I was talking about pictures of the dyno sheets accrued for the various dyno runs you've done so far.

 

[AutoMods]

any info helps but its hard to judge a turbo off of one customer. I have a feeling he's going to get jumped as soon as he posts results.

The fp green has users that run 10's but there is also some people running 13 second quarter miles with the green also.

 

[keltalon]

any info helps but its hard to judge a turbo off of one customer. I have a feeling he's going to get jumped as soon as he posts results.

The fp green has users that run 10's but there is also some people running 13 second quarter miles with the green also.

Don't worry as soon as I get some issues worked out I will post a dyno sheet right behind him with logs and video of dyno runs.

 

[spoolin ddub]

Why have you not posted a video, a dyno sheet, tons of pix of anything? Also, why do you keep converting your mustang dyno numbers to dynojet? How would you even do that accurately without putting your car ON a dynojet?

A few people in the area have went to a local dynojet and mustang dyno. Most say the mustang dyno reads 12% lower than the dynojet. Being one who really doesn't care about dyno numbers I lower the bar giving my car 10%!

I have the very first dyno for the initial WOT tune. This was hitting 23psi with boost falling off making a peak of 447whp (around 492whp dynojet). Seeing there were still bugs with the ignition and huge boost leaks this was never meant to be posted. There is no dyno sheet. I keep it 100 and will gladly post info once the manifold is fixed and I hit the dyno etc.

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[gsxkid81]

i just bought a oilless 6765 comp turbo. i see there are alot of people that do not know what these turbos cost.i just wanted to say that i got my turbo on sale for 1650 shipped and i just got a quote for a friend of mine for a 6262 billet wheel journal bearing=819
Triplex ceramic ball bearing =1239
and he quoted me for a billet wheel 5862 as well journal bearing=819
Triplex ceramic ball bearing=1239
i think they are price fair in right beside there pte and garrett counterparts.

 

[keltalon]

i just bought a oilless 6765 comp turbo. i see there are alot of people that do not know what these turbos cost.i just wanted to say that i got my turbo on sale for 1650 shipped and i just got a quote for a friend of mine for a 6262 billet wheel journal bearing=819
Triplex ceramic ball bearing =1239
and he quoted me for a billet wheel 5862 as well journal bearing=819
Triplex ceramic ball bearing=1239
i think they are price fair in right beside there pte and garrett counterparts.

yeah I paid $900.00 for my custom 6265 water and oil cooled billet series triplex ceramic ball bearing.

 

[spoolin ddub]

I made it to the track today. untuned on regular street tires with no 2 step 10.1 a/f . air temps 125* she ran 11.4 @125mph at 20psi. up the boost air temps soared to 150* AEM pulled timing, the alternator belt came off, all 4 plugs fouled from being pig rich with a 10.1 a/f , no 2 step she ran 10.7 @133. We plan to dyno & tune the car next weekend. Track vids coming soon. With a tune it should break high 10's at 20psi with no 2step. I am happy but not satisfied. Its not set on kill but it has made progress.

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