Flared 1G fenders for wider tires

[Suparata]

I have a 24mm offset, and even with 225 wide tires there is overhang that requires a fender flare.

Smaller the offset=wheels further out from under the car.

 

[DarthBulk]

Smaller the offset=wheels further out from under the car.

True. My point was that he has 37mm offset, setting his centerline 13mm farther in the wheel well. Then add 1/2 of the additional wheel width (255 - 225) and that is 15mm farther out. With my setup, I have a clear overhang in need of fender flares. His overhang sounded like it should be similar.

 

[99gst_racer]

Chris - If you are still untested in that fender roller on page 1, I might be able to get my hands on one. A group of local mini-truckers that I hang out with were talking about buying one and then renting it out to people. I'm not sure if they ever bought it or not, but if they did, I'm sure they would be willing to rent it to you for a small fee. I'll check to see if they made the purchase or not.

 

[Suparata]

True. My point was that he has 37mm offset, setting his centerline 13mm farther in the wheel well. Then add 1/2 of the additional wheel width (255 - 225) and that is 15mm farther out. With my setup, I have a clear overhang in need of fender flares. His overhang sounded like it should be similar.

That almost makes sense but you have to take the wheel width into consideration.
I understand you have 225/?/? on what size/width wheel?

 

[DarthBulk]

That almost makes sense but you have to take the wheel width into consideration.
I understand you have 225/?/? on what size/width wheel?

Yes, for now I am using 225's on 17x9 wheels. When I made that post, I assumed he was talking about 17x9 wheels as well, because that is what this thread was about.

 

[GRNDSM]

Guys, you really do not need those for 245/45/16 tires with the right offset rims! I used to run those tires on Green Machine and negative camber took care of it .

Edit: I had tires listed as 17", which was wrong, they were 16"

 

[mavisky]

That's good news to hear, but I'm thinking more along the lines of 255-275 with the use of those flares. No point in blowing all that money in the first place just to limit myself.

 

[ghettosmurf]

are you dead set on using a 9" wheel? I have a 245 on my 16x8 and I through them on my buddies talon and it had no rubbing issues. As far as sticking out it was pretty much flush with the outside of the fender, but did not stick out. When he took agressive corners it just barely tucked underneath. If he would have rolled the fenders they would EASILY clear...

 

[99redgst]

The Eastwood company has these for $225, but I don't know if it is the exact same thing as at the Tirerack. Here is a link showing some pictures of what this fender rolling machine can do.

http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=1248&itemType=CATEGORY&iMainCat=688&iSubCat=1248

I re-checked my rear tire clearance, and I don't think I can get enough clearance with rolling alone on the rear anymore (after reading more about this fender roller). This is with 17x9 rims and 235 wide tires.

Anyone know if this tool causes any damage to the paint when using it? I am running 16x8 with 245/45/16 and know that rolling the fender will give me plenty of clearance. I am just wondering if bending the sheetmetal causes the paint to crack or anything like that.

 

[ghettosmurf]

you should be fine. i know alot of 240 guys pull and roll the fenders. the pulling causes a lot of distortion and can cause cracking, but for what the majority of people on here are doing, no there is no reason it should crack the paint, it is all underneath. the part you roll you cant even see from looking at the car standing aside it...another option besides rolling is actually just cutting that section out. MLopez has his fenders that way on the 2g. Looks VERY CLEAN.

 

[unlmtdndeavor]

anyone ever seen these flares on a 1gb? i almost think that the car is too round for them? id definately like to see one, im really tempted to do it.

 

[Ludachris]

anyone ever seen these flares on a 1gb? i almost think that the car is too round for them? id definately like to see one, im really tempted to do it.

Personally, I'm not sure that it looks great on any 1G because it's not made specifically for the car. It doesn't go with the body lines. But this thread is not really about looks it's about functionality. We're only considering doing this because we want to fit wider tires and wheels on the car and fender rolling probably won't give us enough clearance. If you really had to use them you'll get used to the looks I'm sure.

 

[robertd440]

Anyone know if this tool causes any damage to the paint when using it? I am running 16x8 with 245/45/16 and know that rolling the fender will give me plenty of clearance. I am just wondering if bending the sheetmetal causes the paint to crack or anything like that.

One trick i've used when rolling a fender is to take a hair dryer on low heat and preheat the paint in the area you will be working. Helps temporally (my spelling sucks sorry) soften the piant to keep it from cracking. I have never tried it on a dsm but it has worked well on other cars with modern paint, the old laquers sometimes dis-color if you get too hot.

 

[WatchItExplode]

Anyone know if this tool causes any damage to the paint when using it? I am running 16x8 with 245/45/16 and know that rolling the fender will give me plenty of clearance. I am just wondering if bending the sheetmetal causes the paint to crack or anything like that.

It certainly can crack. I know because I've seen paint on a 1g crack after rolling the fenders. But the cracking isn't the worst of it, and it doesn't just crack where nobody sees it like that other guy said. What happens when the paint cracks is it leaves a little ridge in the paint that sticks out and eventually chips off. In the case of the 1g I mentioned, he had some major paint chipping around his fender and it looked like ass. I myself have rolled fenders on trucks and had paint crack on me, even when using a heat gun. The trick is you want to keep the radius of the bend as wide as possible while still getting the clearance you require. The tighter the radius, the more likely the paint will crack.

And by the way, I use my heat gun on it's hottest setting for rolling fenders. I really don't think you have to worry about discoloring the paint. You basically want it as hot as you can get it, short of taking a torch to it

I'm thinking about investing in a fender rolling tool once I have a little extra money. Mostly because I want to do my own fenders, but also because I've been using the baseball bat method on customer's cars and I'm getting sick of it. I'm trying to fit +35mm 17x8" wheels with 245/45 rubber on my car and I'm definately cutting it close even if I roll the fenders. I'm thinking about selling the wheels and getting some with +40mm, but that will require coilovers. The spending never ends!!!

 

[konigtalon]

Hey there guys im actually getting fender flares installed in my car right now not for the same reason u all are but mine are for looks I have motegi 18 on my car right now and i can def get a tuck out of them with the flares on the im also lowered 2 inches so when He gets done putting them on my car i'll post some close up pics of the car for you all. I got them from sportcompactonly.com for 170 dollars shipped i held them up to the car and they looked like they would fit pretty well hope this helps

 

[unlmtdndeavor]

sweet...can't wait to see

 

[nightspeed87]

Hey there guys im actually getting fender flares installed in my car right now not for the same reason u all are but mine are for looks I have motegi 18 on my car right now and i can def get a tuck out of them with the flares on the im also lowered 2 inches so when He gets done putting them on my car i'll post some close up pics of the car for you all. I got them from sportcompactonly.com for 170 dollars shipped i held them up to the car and they looked like they would fit pretty well hope this helps

Did you ever get pics of the fender flares ?

Also were are the rivoted fender flares on the red 1g that Chris posted in the begining purchased at?

 

[Phil1320]

Chris--I actually saw the post from the guy with the Z flares earlier this year and had seen the pics of the Japanese red Eclipse years back which look to be almost identical to those of the Z Store. I was going to get those, but 3 weeks ago I met a guy at a track day at Pocono that had a built E30 BMW and it had a nice set of flares on it. So, I asked where he got them and he said, "Ireland." I said, damn. He said, "NO, Ireland Engineering in CA. Anyway they or more flat on top than the perfect roundness of the Z Store and will probably take more trimming than the Z flares for sure, but I think I will be happier with them aesthetically. They are not drilled yet for rivets/hardware and were $267 shipped all the way over here to Connecticut. Check it out:

http://store.nexternal.com/shared/S...t2=485969185&CategoryID=3&Target=products.asp

E30 Body/Chassis

Good luck!

Phil Beers

 

[roadrunner2176]

I'm almost positive that these are the fender flares your looking for. I bought a pair a few years ago, they come with rivet dimples, but are meant to me molded. Nice product, left and right sides, Somewhere between 1.25 and 1.5 inches flare at top. Not what I wanted, ended up molding my own.

http://www.autosportz.com/bodykits_miscellaneous_fender_flares_universal.htm

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[mavisky]

Noone knows ### the car is in Japan. They do look very similar to the 240z flares though. I'll be purchasing the 240z flares sometime this week and hope to have them installed by the end of July at the latest.

 

[nightspeed87]

Noone knows ### the car is in Japan. They do look very similar to the 240z flares though. I'll be purchasing the 240z flares sometime this week and hope to have them installed by the end of July at the latest.

So are all these different car flares universal and need fabbing or are the 240 flares your getting soemthing that is a no brainer straight bolt on. Because thats what Im looking for.
And i want flares that dont quite buldge out as much as the flares on the red one 1gs.
I want something more suttle... Any links to which ones I should get to satisfy my cars needs?

 

[roadrunner2176]

The ones I purchased from http://www.autosportz.com/bodykits_m..._universal.htm are universal flares. Their tapered, so if you want more or less you can trim the bottoms off. They come as a 3/4 flare and since the eclipse has an oversized wheel well nothing on the market will fit perfect, 350z flares are the closest size wise, but if you dont have measurements than a universal in second best. I dont know about the 240z, but if their a universal than odds are your could trim here and shape there to fit just like any other universal flare.

 

[nightspeed87]

The ones I purchased from http://www.autosportz.com/bodykits_m..._universal.htm are universal flares. Their tapered, so if you want more or less you can trim the bottoms off. They come as a 3/4 flare and since the eclipse has an oversized wheel well nothing on the market will fit perfect, 350z flares are the closest size wise, but if you dont have measurements than a universal in second best. I dont know about the 240z, but if their a universal than odds are your could trim here and shape there to fit just like any other universal flare.

If someone where to put flares that were flush with the 1g body style
and looked decent on my current 225/50/r16 rx7 rims w/ 1/8th in spacers which flares would you pick.

 

[Ludachris]

If someone where to put flares that were flush with the 1g body style
and looked decent on my current 225/50/r16 rx7 rims w/ 1/8th in spacers which flares would you pick.

Not too many people have experimented with different flares so I'm not sure you're going to get an answer to your question. Using flares is a relatively new practice in the DSM world now that we're getting a few more people wanting to use wider wheels for road racing/autocrossing. I think I like Phil's suggestion above for the E30 BMWs. They look like they're wider and might fit better.

 

[Phil1320]

Chris---Actually, I did a quick mock up on the car this weekend and even though the E30 flares seem to match the shape of our cars better, at the bottom, they come tighter in than the Z flares, as in they are not as wide at the bottom, thus will require more work than the Z flares to get on properly. So, hope that helps your decision anyway. I think once done, they will ultimately look better, although that obviously isn't the priority here. Good luck! Talk to you soon..

Phil

ps--to avoid confusion, I don't mean wider in the lateral sense, I mean if you were standing on the side of your car looking at your wheel arches, the E30 flares curve in tighter than where the front bumper cover bottom is and where the front of the side skirt starts. So, I will actually have to widen the arch of the flare to make it flush..........