Firing Order [Merged 5-7]

[STARION]

forgot firing order. 1990 4G63T.
call the cylander farthest on the passenger side #1. and call the ignition tower farthest from the firewall #1.

thanks

 

[UW95GST]

Car won't start after timing belt job...we HOPE it's because the spark plugs wires are connected incorrectly.

Is there a scan of the service manual around? or how should the plugs be connected to the distributor from left to right facing the engine from the front?

 

[CyberEye]

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[Defiant]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159058
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148010
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133101
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117319
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104404
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101019
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100864
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89523
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89452
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72415
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57631
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10465

 

[Batmobile]

Please help I got work in like an hour and half..and I put new wires on the way the manual says..and the car isn't running right.
what did I do wrong?
4-3-2-1
and the coil pack I got from top to bottom is 4-1-2-3?
Is that wrong, or what? Tryed the search thing..but it never works for me, sorry guys this is probly a 1,000 repost....
by the this is a 6 bolt in a 96 tsi awd

 

[Batmobile]

figured it out!
Found my notes...forgot ya gotta switch the 4 n 3 and 2 n 1 to make it a 3214
woot...thanks!!

 

[CYrUs0k5]

Is the 1995 firing order any diffrent from a 98? If so what is it.

 

[CyberEye]

shouldn't be no.

 

[biglady112]

Yes it is. 95 and 96 are, 4,1,2,3. I am sure that the 97-99 share thier order with 1G's.

95 and 96, if you look at the coil pack, from left to right it should read 4,1,2,3. Just hook up wires accordingly. From right to left(driver's side to passenger) the order is 1,2,3,4/

Steve

 

[ChiGGz]

Ok, heres what I'm running..

DSMLINK (95 ECU)
6 bolt in a '97 2G
1g CAS
I'm not sure what Gen Coil pack im running, does that matter?

I've been searching and searching and searching, and theres just different orders for different configs.

Looking at the Coil Pack, starting with furthest away from firewall, what is the cylinder order (1st cylinder being closest to timing belt.)

I've run 4123 no probs, and even 4132 no probs.. 4-1 and 2-3 are interchangeable in any order correct? ie 1-4-3-2

Thanks so much, rep points offered for correct clarification!

 

[weith1111]

4123 is correct, but yes you can mix them up and be ok if they are the pistons in phase with eachother.

edit: I spoke too soon, your situation is more confusing than I thought. I'll get back to you

 

[Fayt]

I just got my car back today, went to change the spark plug wires, and forgot how the wires are supposed to be hooked up. I'm using all 1g parts. 1g CAS, coil, 96 ECU. If someone could help me out, my car doesnt run at all right now.

 

[overdoseheroin]

4-1-2-3 from left to right looking directly at the coil pack

 

[Fayt]

Cylinders are from left to right or right to left looking at them?

Sorry if I seem retarded.. its been a long day.

 

[femmeDSM]

Here you go.

Kinda south park style, but it gets the job done. haha.

 

[Fayt]

Hmmm... still not starting... that works even when I had a 6 bolt swap done, and just did the wire splicing for the 1g CAS?

 

[femmeDSM]

Hmm. Well, there are only two ways you can set up the firing order. Since cyls 1 & 4 and 2 &3 are on the same coils, try swapping them and see if that changes anything. Car should at least try to start even with incorrect firing order, provided the order hasn't been completely fubared. Off topic, but what's wrong with your car? Do you have another post diagnosing the no start? I can try to help....

For now, just try swapping your 1 & 4 plugs with 2 & 3. Since you have a rewired CAS, this might be the ticket (missed that in your original post, sorry)

 

[Fayt]

Well, I just got it back and NOW, its set up right even with the rewire, but I think the flywheel is fuxored. Brand new starter, so that isn't the issue. The car tries to start, grinds, but then you just hear this spinning sound (like the starter disengaged). Here's the link to my problems... I'm using someone's used flywheel (person from here -.-) and it all sounds like flywheel problems.

http://dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=211200

 

[phillabaum03]

I was wondering in what order the plugs go onto the coil pack.. The cylinders go in order from 4 3 2 1 now what order do they go onto the coilpack.. thanks

 

[RotaryRyan]

If you are doing 6 bolt swap (since you have a 95-96, right?), you need to swap 1 with 2, and 3 with 4.

Therefor making the order 3-2-1-4 from left to right. (Stock it is 4-1-2-3)

 

[CanadianTSi]

1 and 4 Fire at the same time likewise with 2 and 3, so whatever combination of those will work.

 

[RotaryRyan]

4-1-2-3

Quit confusing people.

If you are doing 6 bolt swap you need to swap 1 with 2, and 3 with 4.

Therefor making the order 3-2-1-4 from left to right. (Stock it is 4-1-2-3)

(BTW, I know 1 and 4 as well as 2 and 3 are the same, its just simpler to explain it as I did above. So technically you could use 2-3-4-1, 2-3-1-4, or 3-2-4-1)

 

[1993TalonTsiAWD]

You guys are quite funny sometimes as CanadianTSi and kevingst said.1 4 and 2 3 FIRE together? So it doesn't matter if you use the 6bolt or 7bolt pattern. They run on a wate spark system. That mean as 1 is on it's compression stroke 4 is on it's exhaust. They both fire, but because the one under compression is a higher resistance, it gets the most of the spark available. You see the system never uses or almost never uses it's full capacity, it just uses what it needs based on the resistance of the cylinder on compression the other gets some spark on exhaust,but not enough to notice. Since there is two coils and not 4 you can switch 1 4 and 2 3 because they are companion cylinders. Both 1 4 and 2 3 are up together and down together. I really can't explain it much more without confusing people in this thread. All you need to know is a 7bolt (4 1 2 3) or 6bolt (3 2 1 4) firing order will work reguard less if you have a 6bolt or 7bolt or a 2g or 1g ecu. SO go have fun and pick whatever order out of the two you want,because in the end the spark chooses the compression stroke everytime,so as long as you have the companions hooked up right your good to go.

Derek

 

[phillabaum03]

Quit confusing people.

If you are doing 6 bolt swap you need to swap 1 with 2, and 3 with 4.

Therefor making the order 3-2-1-4 from left to right. (Stock it is 4-1-2-3)

(BTW, I know 1 and 4 as well as 2 and 3 are the same, its just simpler to explain it as I did above. So technically you could use 2-3-4-1, 2-3-1-4, or 3-2-4-1)

Thanks. Your the only person that didnt confuse me..I got the car running

 

[Mely-Mel]

Okay guys. I think my 95 EPROM ECU with DSM Link is dead. I dont get fuel spark or anything. So I still have my old 99 ECU that Im putting in there. I do get fuel and spark now but the car doesnt turn over.

Howver I have a 1G motor and I know that the firing order was changed to work with the new motor and DSM Link.

Here is what I need. I need the firing order for a 1G motor with a 99 ECU. Im not going to drive th car like this, but I need the car to start so I can have somethin else worked on in the car.

Also can I get my 95 Eprom fixed or do I have to find a new one?

Thanks guys...I did do a search and tried to find the anwers but Im kind of in a hurry on this one.

Thanks!

 

[JessesTalon]

Okay guys. I think my 95 EPROM ECU with DSM Link is dead. I dont get fuel spark or anything. So I still have my old 99 ECU that Im putting in there. I do get fuel and spark now but the car doesnt turn over.

Howver I have a 1G motor and I know that the firing order was changed to work with the new motor and DSM Link.

Here is what I need. I need the firing order for a 1G motor with a 99 ECU. Im not going to drive th car like this, but I need the car to start so I can have somethin else worked on in the car.

Also can I get my 95 Eprom fixed or do I have to find a new one?

Thanks guys...I did do a search and tried to find the anwers but Im kind of in a hurry on this one.

Thanks!

1-3-4-2


Just find a new 95 eprom ecu...