Firing Order [Merged 5-7]

[STARION]

forgot firing order. 1990 4G63T.
call the cylander farthest on the passenger side #1. and call the ignition tower farthest from the firewall #1.

thanks

 

[Shogunstang]

im running 1234 right now

 

[timloomis]

Well 4123 is the stock order on the coil pack.you can switch 1,4 and 2,3 with no problem,since they fire at the same time.1234 will not work right though,since 2 and 1 dont share a coil.

 

[marcus95turbo]

hey guys iam sorry for the trouble i t was my cam sensor that was messed up i had checked it out before and it was giving me false readings so i end it up in buying a new one so that was the big mystery sorry yo for the inconvience

 

[95badasstsi95]

i put a 1g head in a 2g and i hav the 1g cas hooked up but i forgot wut the new firing order i was thinking u switch 1 with 2 and 3 with 4 but im not sure thanks

 

[supermanvick]

the setup for a 1g awd talon is:

4-3-2-1 on the head reading left to right then,

4-1-2-3 on the coil pack reading left to right with the plugs facing you sorry but hope that helps!

 

[nightracer91]

The firing order for dsm's is 1-3-4-2. Supermanvick is correct about the placement.

 

[dsm mad man]

im puting on spark plugs whats the spark patern on the motor and coil

 

[dsm mad man]

the word i was looking for is fireing order

 

[MrBoxx]

The cylinder firing order is 1, 3, 4, 2.

The order of cylinders on the motor is, from driver's side to passenger's side: 1, 2, 3, 4.

The order of the spark plug wires on the coil is, from top to bottom: 3, 2, 1, 4.

This is assuming a 1g, 2.0 engine.

 

[jerry_69]

Hey, so I changed my spark wires and when I was changing the wires I like a newbie didn't check were I was pulling the end from. So when I turned the car on it idled real bad and turned off. The car didnt do this till right know that I changed the wires. so if some one knows were they go can they please tell me... thanks.

 

[oldman]

From left to right, head = 4321, coil = 4123.

 

[Inprogress]

Your fireing order is 4123. Thats starting at the coil pack closest to the head.

 

[eagle_talon90]

Hey, starting at the timing belt and going from right to left its 1 - 2 - 3 - 4. then on the coil pack from front of car towards back its 4 - 1 - 2 - 3. So jus hook wires up accordingly. Jus do a quick search next time, its quicker then posting about it since its bin answered many times before.

 

[oldman]

Your fireing order is 4123. Thats starting at the coil pack closest to the head.

2G coil packs run parallel to the head.

 

[jerry_69]

thank you guys....

 

[eagle4life]

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[Vi3tMikeDSM]

Sorry to bring this thread back from the dead, but I'd like to clear something out

I have a 96 talon TSi AWD with a 99 ecu would mine still be 4123

 

[steve]

Please make it stop.

The firing order is just that, the order in which the cylinders fire. On both generation it's 1 - 3 - 4 - 2.
Cylinder 1 is the one next to the timing belt.

The order of the plug wires on the coil packs is normally 4 - 1 - 2 - 3 left to right when you are looking into the coil towers list shown in the diagram above but if you have 2G DSMlink on anything other than a 95/96 car you need to move the wires to 3 - 2 - 4 - 1. swapplugwires [ECMTuning - wiki]

Keep in mind that because we run a wasted spark, the wires on a coil both fire at the same time so swapping 4 and 1 or 2 and 3 will have no functional difference.

 

[9gst0]

coil pack near vavle cover4
1
2
last towerds fire wall 3
trans side to front of moter4321

 

[interex]

How exactly does the 4G63 fire if 1/4 and 2/3 are in the same position at all times?

If the firing order is 3214... How can 3 and 2 fire, then 1 and 4 fire? 1 and 4 are at TDC together... Maybe I'm just not understanding this...

 

[eagle_talon90]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/problem-diagnosis/10465-firing-order-merged-5-7-a.html
Does that help?

 

[interex]

No, not exactly. I read that before posting. I'm just not understanding how 1 and 4 can fire at the same time, or if not at the same time, in order because they are both up at the same time.

 

[eagle_talon90]

4
3
2
1

4123 <-coil

Thats how its set up, cylinders 1 and 4 are firing at the same time, and cylinders 2 and 3 fire at the same time. The coil sends the spark to cylinders 1 and 4 at the same time and to cylinders 2 and 3 at the same time. If you look at the coil on these cars its actually 2 small ones beside each other i think, 1 and 4 are one and 2 and 3 are the other. Thats how they fire at the same time I believe. Does that make any sense to you and help out at all?

 

[interex]

No because I already determined they fire 1 and 4, then 2 and 3 at the same time. How does the engine run if it fires 2 cylinders, then 2 cylinders at a time. It would be like running a big 2 cylinder engine but with 4 cylinders... That is what isnt making sense.

 

[Jeff_Ciesielski]

Its called wasted spark. It can work like that because of the design of a four stroke engine. Just because both pistons are at the top of the stroke, doesn't mean that they are both in the ignition phase of the cycle. For example: cylinder 1 could be in the end of its compression phase, with a compacted air/fuel mix getting ready to ignite. Cylinder 4 on the other hand is ending its exhaust phase and getting ready to draw in a new air/fuel mixture to be compressed. Does that make sense?