Comp Turbo Died Today.

[keltalon]

Well resolved

 

[hurricanecris24]

That sucks, not good news since i plan on getting one.

 

[JusMX141]

What type of failure- smoke, no boost, noise...or a combo of the three? Any shaft play?

 

[JusMX141]

Shaft's wobbling like it bent?

Sounds like a possible bearing failure- if one of the bearings locks up while the shaft is at full speed, the momentum of the spinning wheels will twist or bend the shaft. Happens to under-oiled journal bearing turbos from time to time, but ball bearing turbos require such little oil to operate it's practically impossible for one to die from lack of lubrication. Oil contamination, however, is always a possibility....do you have an oil filter on the turbo?

 

[keltalon]

Resolved.

 

[JusMX141]

Yeah I am feeding from the head using the black fp inline oil filter. I pulled the filter element a few minutes ago and its clean no debris.

Pretty much a zero chance of oil contamination causing the failure then. As FP states on their site-

FP turbocharger customers who use the FP4ANFilter on their FP turbos for the entire service life of the turbocharger will NEVER pay for a turbo repair resulting from oil contamination.

So they're pretty confident that the filter does it's job.

Justin are you familiar with comp's turbo warranty policy?

Not really- haven't really liked the company much since their Innovative Turbo days. Innovative Turbo users seemed to have some serious reliability issues, so I was tuning in to see what happened here with yours and it definitely sounds like an internal issue....although it may be isolated as I've not heard much about Comp turbos failing- then again, I only know of a handful of users.

 

[rr06rs]

"Still spinnin....still spinnin.....still spinnin......DOH!!!.....not spinnin no mo....." Sorry bro...couldn't resist! Lol. Sorry to hear this man. Hope they take care of ya!

 

[Aproductions]

FP turbocharger customers who use the FP4ANFilter on their FP turbos for the entire service life of the turbocharger will NEVER pay for a turbo repair resulting from oil contamination.

So they're pretty confident that the filter does it's job.

Not on a comp turbo haha. just kidding.


@ rr06rs

"Still spinnin....still spinnin.....still spinnin......DOH!!!.....not spinnin no mo....." Sorry bro...couldn't resist! Lol. Sorry to hear this man. Hope they take care of ya!

Hahaha I didn't wanna be "that guy" but I was thinking the same thing. Everyone who saw that video is laughing their @ss off right now.


Anyways OP they better take care of you and back their product. You are making good HP on their turbo ( I don't know what other Comp turbo users make but still). Plus you just dished out the $600 for the upgrade.

Goodluck! oh and post a video of the turbo if you can.

 

[keltalon]

FP turbocharger customers who use the FP4ANFilter on their FP turbos for the entire service life of the turbocharger will NEVER pay for a turbo repair resulting from oil contamination.



Not on a comp turbo haha. just kidding.


@ rr06rs



Hahaha I didn't wanna be "that guy" but I was thinking the same thing. Everyone who saw that video is laughing their @ss off right now.


Anyways OP they better take care of you and back their product. You are making good HP on their turbo ( I don't know what other Comp turbo users make but still). Plus you just dished out the $600 for the upgrade.

Goodluck! oh and post a video of the turbo if you can.

Yeah I am going to hear it from a lot of members about the still spinning video but its cool . I put a lot of confidence in the comp turbo and have highly recommended their turbos to a lot of people You read on google their fail rate is slim to none that is why I think a mistake was made somewhere trying to get it upgraded and shipped back to me quickly

 

[spoolin ddub]

keltalon you have nothing to worry about. Just make sure call and holla at Joe asap. i'm sure they'll take care of you. You are the first owner I have personally heard that turbo has blown. This had to be a overlook while being upgraded. I ran the shit out of mine with no issues from 2008-2011. Sorry to hear this happen to you.

 

[red1993gsallmt]

I knew that noise was gonna equal wheel damage

 

[JusMX141]

Yup, major compressor damage there. Hope they honor that warranty!

 

[keltalon]

Ok guys comp was very surprised to hear of the failure and agreed with Justin that from watching the video it was indeed oil starvation that caused the failure. They had me to check my oil supply from head all the way to the turbo the fp filter was okay but I found that my oil restrictor was clogged and wouldn't allow the turbo to be lubricated this inturn lead to turbo failure. Why its clogged with the fp filter is besides me. But anyway despite my possible error they said that they will still replace the turbo. I am very fortunate not have to have my warranty declined. I feel bad for being impatient. Daggummitt! That's one reason for the deleted post if you are wondering. Thanks comp!!

 

[spoolin ddub]

You jumped the gun thinking they wouldn't help you but its understandable seeing the money you just dropped. So don't feel to bad. Told you they'd take care of you.

 

[turboglenn]

Got your PM but it looks like i'm a little late on this one. Glad it was taken care of for you. I've mentioned in other posts a few times about anytime i work around my turbo and it's lines i'll always edisonnect the return line and start the car, if i don't see oil running out in the first 15 seconds i shut it down and inspect. I had the tiniest piece of PTFE from making the oil feed line (some how didn't get cleaned out) but it got in my restrictor during some maintenance and there was no oil coming out.. took it apart and sure enough it was clogged. I look at it like this, it's only a few minutes extra work to pull the return and se if there's oil.. sadly in your case it sounds like contamination happened after assembly.. the restrictors are so small though it could have been a piece from the filtere element or oil feed line that dis-lodged and clogged the feed line.

either way, you got blessed with a free-bee, so might pay off to periodically check the return flow when ever you're doing something in the front of the car

 

[We're on Boost]

Keltalon, did you use their black filter that has a built-in .030" restrictor? Then another restrictor besides that?
Do you have any idea what it was that was stuck in your restrictor? I hate teflon tape btw. Loctite anaerobic pipe thread sealant is always my first choice.

 

[keltalon]

Keltalon, did you use their black filter that has a built-in .030" restrictor? Then another restrictor besides that?
Do you have any idea what it was that was stuck in your restrictor? I hate teflon tape btw. Loctite anaerobic pipe thread sealant is always my first choice.

Yeah I have always used the black filter and the .020 brass frestrictor that comp sent with the turbo, it inserts right into the center section , this is the one that had something in it. I left this resrictor in the turbo when it was sent in for the upgrade. Along the way to comp and back to me something got down in the brass resrictor and clogged it. Comp got my turbo back yesterday and will be giving me some word today as to there findings and when they will be sending a replacement back to me whether be this turbo repaired or a new unit I will hopefully know today.

 

[We're on Boost]

I'm thinking, even without the clog, it might not be a good thing to use both restrictors. You know, you've got 2 restrictors in series, the .030" one in the filter, and then the .020" one from Comp. Then you are feeding from the head besides, and there is some restriction from the filter element itself. I would ask Comp if all of that is just too much oil restriction. It's almost for sure more than they had in mind.

 

[keltalon]

I'm thinking, even without the clog, it might not be a good thing to use both restrictors. You know, you've got 2 restrictors in series, the .030" one in the filter, and then the .020" one from Comp. Then you are feeding from the head besides, and there is some restriction from the filter element itself. I would ask Comp if all of that is just too much oil restriction. It's almost for sure more than they had in mind.

Here is the thing all of their turbos comes with this 2nd restrictor built into the turbo. Another fact I ran the turbo flawlessly for over a year with this set up and no issue. Only when I sent it back in for the upgrade is when I had the failure. Comp looked at the unit yesterday and will be shipping me something back monday. I will see what they want to recommend. Thanks for input

 

[red1993gsallmt]

Here is the thing all of their turbos comes with this 2nd restrictor built into the turbo. Another fact I ran the turbo flawlessly for over a year with this set up and no issue. Only when I sent it back in for the upgrade is when I had the failure. Comp looked at the unit yesterday and will be shipping me something back monday. I will see what they want to recommend. Thanks for input

Could you drill out the fp filter/restrictor?

 

[keltalon]

Could you drill out the fp filter/restrictor?

Daggummitt man I didn't think about that but yeah this will help wouldn't it At this point I need help trying to decide what turbo to go with from comp? They will give me what i want. 6765, 6465, 6262, 6265, 6462 billet triple ball bearing .82 or .63 housing they even said whatever I chose they will send both housing .63 or .82 for testing and comparision purposes, They suggested the 6765 with .82 turbine housing. I think this will be too much for my goals what do you think? What ever I want they will give

 

[spoolin ddub]

Daggummitt man I didn't think about that but yeah this will help wouldn't it At this point I need help trying to decide what turbo to go with from comp? They will give me what i want. 6765, 6465, 6262, 6265, 6462 billet triple ball bearing .82 or .63 housing they even said whatever I chose they will send both housing .63 or .82 for testing and comparision purposes, They suggested the 6765 with .82 turbine housing. I think this will be too much for my goals what do you think? What ever I want they will give

That's is a hard decision . A 6765 is rated at like 95lbs/min. It flows way more air then you'll need for 600whp. Sure it'll get you to 600 with no problem and you'll have room to grow. You have to remeber you also have some hp to unlock on your motor setup (Bigger intake manifold etc). It's not just about throwing on a turbo and then making a number. where you reach the number is just as important and you may not like the 6765 powerband. I say stay with the 6467. I feel it's better suited for your current setup..

 

[We're on Boost]

What ever I want they will give

Wow.

 

[keltalon]

That's is a hard decision . A 6765 is rated at like 95lbs/min. It flows way more air then you'll need for 600whp. Sure it'll get you to 600 with no problem and you'll have room to grow. You have to remeber you also have some hp to unlock on your motor setup (Bigger intake manifold etc). It's not just about throwing on a turbo and then making a number. where you reach the number is just as important and you may not like the 6765 powerband. I say stay with the 6467. I feel it's better suited for your current setup..

I have watched a few videos on the 6765 true they are monstrous but dag they start to spool around 4500 and power goes all the way up to 9500 this is too much for me and I agree that i might not like the 6765 because I barely like the spool of the 6467. I may try the 6462 with a .82 ar housing and see what this net me. heck I have nothing to loose at this point.

 

[spoolin ddub]

I have watched a few videos on the 6765 true they are monstrous but dag they start to spool around 4500 and power goes all the way up to 9500 this is too much for me and I agree that i might not like the 6765 because I barely like the spool of the 6467. I may try the 6462 with a .82 ar housing and see what this net me. heck I have nothing to loose at this point.

what was the old housing?