clutch pedal does not come all the way up also high idle

[91gsdohc]

so instead of making two threads im putting this all in one

clutch pedal: the clutch pedal doesnt come all the way up after pushing it in.. heres some info on that the guy i bought the car from said he just replaced the master cyl... the car is also hard to get into gear and with the clutch down if i put it in reverse the car will move back some (flat ground)

the car also idles at 3k rpms could this be the reason why its hard to get into first and sometimes grinds when i try and put in reverse?... the guy said it idles high because of a vacuum leak that he believe is because of the cracked valve cover. also he said the leak causes it to missfire sometimes?

any info would be appreciated thanks you

 

[92AWDHX40]

Terry's Talon Troubleshooting Tips #3 - Fast Idle (aka. Idle Surge)

idle help.

 

[Sebba]

Bleed your clutch and see if that fixes it. If not, replace the master and slave with OEM ones.

Why would you buy a car with so many problems you've no idea how to fix?

 

[cnordelo]

First the pedal could be a few issues like a bleed or bad line. As far as idle don't forget vac leaks.

 

[91gsdohc]

the clutch issue my guess was to bleed and adjust clutch i was just looking for confirmation or other reasons

i bought it because for 500 i dont think i could of went wrong for a 97 tsi awd 113k

bout the idle dont you think its more then a vacuum leak because i read even a vacuum leak wouldnt make it rev that high?

 

[cmfd]

check the cluch pedal assembly it self. where the adjustment rod is. the pivot gets worn out and causes play. this would cause it not come back up all they way and grind. happened to my buddy after pushing he tob through his pressuer plate. when that happened he would move foreward in gear with the clutch pedal pushed in

 

[92AWDHX40]

Read the thread i posted on idle, could be something in there that may help you, there is a lot of information regarding idle surge, and possible idle issues.

 

[91gsdohc]

let me throw something else in the clutch will eventually come back up all the way with the car off and i pump it a few times the clutch will come up about maybe half way give or take pause then come the rest of the way... i dont know if that makes a difference to what the problem may be exactly

Read the thread i posted on idle, could be something in there that may help you, there is a lot of information regarding idle surge, and possible idle issues.

the idle is not surging its staying still but if it more then just about surgeing ill take a look at it

 

[98mitsubishigst]

#1 clutch pedal problem solutions

Bleed the clutch pedal.
Then adjust the clutch pedal

Proper Clutch Adjustment - YouTube

#2 High Idle Problem Solution

Check your biss screw, inside the thottle body.. Turn it one way or the other, which ever lowers the idle, if this doesnt fix it..
Do a Boost leak Test.. Then fix leaks accordingly..

Do these before asking for more help from all of us..

 

[cmfd]

let me throw something else in the clutch will eventually come back up all the way with the car off and i pump it a few times the clutch will come up about maybe half way give or take pause then come the rest of the way... i dont know if that makes a difference to what the problem may be exactly

when we were having problems it wouldnt come all the way back unless you pulled it. sounds like you might have air in the line. ive heard of people using 2 to 4 bottles of brake fluid to bled it. dose it slowly come back up or does it spring up the rest of the way and make a thud?

 

[91gsdohc]

let me throw something else in the clutch will eventually come back up all the way with the car off and i pump it a few times the clutch will come up about maybe half way give or take pause then come the rest of the way... i dont know if that makes a difference to what the problem may be exactly

when we were having problems it wouldnt come all the way back unless you pulled it. sounds like you might have air in the line. ive heard of people using 2 to 4 bottles of brake fluid to bled it. dose it slowly come back up or does it spring up the rest of the way and make a thud?

it like springs up the rest of the way

#1 clutch pedal problem solutions

Bleed the clutch pedal.
Then adjust the clutch pedal

Proper Clutch Adjustment - YouTube

#2 High Idle Problem Solution

Check your biss screw, inside the thottle body.. Turn it one way or the other, which ever lowers the idle, if this doesnt fix it..
Do a Boost leak Test.. Then fix leaks accordingly..

Do these before asking for more help from all of us..

that what am going to do i just wanted to make sure and also get more sugestions on the issue in case that does not fix it



and with the biss i thought you not really supposed to mess with it? (i read that some where on the forums

 

[cmfd]

im leaning on the pedal assembly. there is a pivot with a nut go from the pedal across the top twards the gas pedal. where the adjustment is push it down slowly and dont let go of the pedal see if it springs on the way down and watch it on the way up and see where it springs back.

 

[my dreamt dsm]

For the clutch part seems like it's the master cylinder. Im not sure if they ever replaced it. If so can you confirm that. 2g's have a plastic tab inside the master cylinder that will break and cause it to not hold pressure. It doesn't mean there will be visible leaks outside the master though as I have experienced.
Bout the car not going into gear.
Even with my car revved to about 3k rpm I can press my clutch in and go into gear. My thought is you MIGHT have to tear into the tranny and check everything out. You said you just bought it... will you can't trust some guy's word. I would tear into it and check out everything clutch related... PIECE OF MIND IS PRICELESS.. good luck!

 

[91gsdohc]

im leaning on the pedal assembly. there is a pivot with a nut go from the pedal across the top twards the gas pedal. where the adjustment is push it down slowly and dont let go of the pedal see if it springs on the way down and watch it on the way up and see where it springs back.

ok im not really following you on what you just said...

what do you mean see if it springs on the way down?... and the pivot goes side to side?from the clutch towards the gas pedal?

For the clutch part seems like it's the master cylinder. Im not sure if they ever replaced it. If so can you confirm that. 2g's have a plastic tab inside the master cylinder that will break and cause it to not hold pressure. It doesn't mean there will be visible leaks outside the master though as I have experienced.
Bout the car not going into gear.
Even with my car revved to about 3k rpm I can press my clutch in and go into gear. My thought is you MIGHT have to tear into the tranny and check everything out. You said you just bought it... will you can't trust some guy's word. I would tear into it and check out everything clutch related... PIECE OF MIND IS PRICELESS.. good luck!

the master cyl looks new its real clean.. but that could also be because of its location.... but i read up on this all last night and some people said after adjusting the clutch and what not it worked better... i dont have a away to really get the tranny out

i could get it into gear it goes in gear its just really a PITA its just 1st gear and reverse thats giving me trouble when the cars off it goes perfect

 

[cmfd]

The pivot thing that I'm talking about is where the adjustment rod is. Its kind of complicated sorry if I'm confusing you. Grab the piece where the adjustment rod attaches hold cluch pedal stationary and try to move the pivot. If that moves up and down then you need a new assembly.

It makes sence in my head but when it comes out it dosent

 

[91gsdohc]

not sure what you are talking bout so i moved the only two things i could see and they both didnt move to i think im good with the assembly

 

[my dreamt dsm]

The thing with the car off and it goes to gear. No one on this site has pin point it to one thing.

I had the same problem also... After talking to the evo guys and dsm guys on here I had no choice but to redo everything. Everything as in I just bought new clutch, master, slave, pressure plate, throw out bearing, stainless steel clutch line and flywheel.
After redoing everything it just work.

 

[1995 brian]

I had the same issue with my gst. Mine had a brand new master and slave and bled the system like 7 times turned out to be the master cylinder adjustment. Just try to bleed it and if that dont work try adjusting the master its really easy. I would change your wires and plugs since you mentioned its missfiring.

 

[91gsdohc]

he said he has new plugs and wires but tomorrow if i dont over sleep like i did all weekend im gunna adjust the clutch and bleed it

 

[talon1990TSi]

If the pedal assembly is bad it don't matter how many times you bleed it. You will not get the full travel of the pedal. Get on your back and look up at the adjustment rod and push the pedal in some and see if it moves. If it your pedal can move up and down with out the rod moving. Your pedal assembly is broke and you need to replace it.

 

[91gsdohc]

i already looked the rod moves when i push the clutch in... and when the previous owner change the master cyl.. he said he just replaced it and did nothing else he even told it needs to adjusted... i havnt tried adjusting it yet later today im going to adjust the clutch and if i can find a clutch mover im going to bleed it