Best Turbo? [Merged 9-9] turbocharger upgrade

[hukster00]

hi, i wona upgrade my turbo on the gsx, and there is so many choices dont know which one to buy, so i asking you pepz wich turbo is best for under 1k for street/strip setup thanks,

 

[nano]

97GSTAT you have a Hahn super 16G so I bet you know better. If you had good spool times then I'm sure it's good. Not many people have this turbo and the ones that I talked to or heard from with A/Ts I bet had some sort of boost leak like I did when I had bad spool up with my T28.

As far as the AT trannie braking often I'm not sure why. I personally only have a shift kit and high stall TC. THat's it and it took many low 12s and and some 11 second runs. Not to mention countless low 1.7 60fts. I'm real hard on my car.
I did have my last tranny blow up right after a rebuild. The tranny pump went bad and the mechanic insisted in rebuilding the tranny. Well it never worked right and while cruising through traffic it locked up, so I blame that on the rebuild since it worked great before hand. Even when it had a leaking pump. So I went and bought a brand new tranny and installed it my self. No more problems since.
One thing for sure to do in these trannies is to use Misubisih ATF only. Some people have used redline but you can't just pour any brand in or it'll kill the A/T preaty quick. Also let the car cool down between power brakes and change your fluid fairly often if you do it a lot. And always make sure your not low in fluid. If you plan on driving the car hard a shift kit is a must. Good luck.

 

[97GSTAT]

I'm doing a leak test myself this week end. And this turbo gets a bad rap, it's not near as bad as people WHO DON'T have it say. Before I did the turbo, FMIC, injecotrs, and TC install I was stalling like your one video on DSMTalk. But now I'm having a hard time going from 2500-3000 or 3500 quickly. This leads me to believe I might have a boost leak. by the way were did you find your leaks at? Just wondering.

 

[2boosted]

thanx for the tips, its funny becuz my tranny pump has just gone and I just had my tranny rebuilt in may/june and it went on me so I think I will look into the shift kit, it sounds like a good upgrade. Although i have been told the high stall t/c put a lot of stress on trannies! Thanx for all the help once again!

 

[Spinall4]

Ok, my turbo is making so funnie noises so out with the bad, in with the new. Up untill recently I was prety much set on getting a big 28 from Turbochargers.com, or agp and going on my way. But now I've decided that I will proalby want to spray on my car, and I've been trying to search for the best turbo to use with nitrous. I Aslan mentioning that a 6cm exhaust housing was too small, so I was thinking maby small 16g w/7cm exhaust housing. Then I came on hear and read one of Aslan's posts saying that the 7cm housing is fine but the whell sucks, and that you should atleast clip it, or even beter get a 7cm housing with a T-3 hi flow wheel in it. I'm not sure but, don't AGP L turbos come with the T-3 wheel I'm looking for? Are there any proablems with running an AGP LR-1 with nitrous? Is a 2.5" dp too small for what I'm looking to run? Also, has any body had any exp. with the Venom VCN-2000 set up? I like how it uses the stock fuel system, but does it by actualy giving the injectors an extra pulse width, rather than boosting your fuel presure into the stratosphe.

 

[Slowboy]

What do you plan on doing with the car, driving it everyday or making a track car?

Mike Huml
aka...slowboy

 

[Spinall4]

Originally posted by Slowboy
What do you plan on doing with the car, driving it everyday or making a track car?

Mike Huml
aka...slowboy

Dailydriver. I would like to be able to pull low 12's @ 4800' above sea level, in my at. mabey even high 11's once rebuild my engine(I'm thinking about doing the 4g64 stroker conversion). I realy want some quick spool up, beacuse lag sucks in A/T's.

 

[NosLaser]

You could run a 7cm housing with a TDO5H wheel however you are limiting the amount of nitrous you can run, and you are also making the tuning window that much narrower. EGT's are going to go up with that exhaust wheel; REGARDLESS of how well tuned the car is. My car NEVER detonated. EVER. I had as close to perfect tuning as humanly possible with my combo, and after 7 months, I killed a brand new (at the time) 16g. The shaft burnt up, blades fell off and shot out of the exhaust, etc. With the T3 Hi-flow back wheel, you can throw as much nitrous as you really want at it. You can go either way, but I personally think you'd be much happier with the T3 Hi-flow. Not only will you make more power by proxy, enabling you to run less spray in the first place, but you also have th echance to crank it later on and make some really big power.

Regards,

 

[Spinall4]

Originally posted by NosLaser
You could run a 7cm housing with a TDO5H wheel however you are limiting the amount of nitrous you can run, and you are also making the tuning window that much narrower. EGT's are going to go up with that exhaust wheel; REGARDLESS of how well tuned the car is. My car NEVER detonated. EVER. I had as close to perfect tuning as humanly possible with my combo, and after 7 months, I killed a brand new (at the time) 16g. The shaft burnt up, blades fell off and shot out of the exhaust, etc. With the T3 Hi-flow back wheel, you can throw as much nitrous as you really want at it. You can go either way, but I personally think you'd be much happier with the T3 Hi-flow. Not only will you make more power by proxy, enabling you to run less spray in the first place, but you also have th echance to crank it later on and make some really big power.

Regards,

But what is the smallest turbo to run that setup? is it the AGP lr1? or should I be looking into somting from Slowboy racing, or even a mutt?

 

[dsm_racing`]

I'm looking into putting a 2.2 stroker into my car. I can buy the short block from Howell for 2400. I was planning on having the heads worked with upgraded cams, and upgraded fuel system. I was wondering what would be the best turbo for a daily driver. I want to a quik spool time with little lag. I have been reading alot and alot of people said the fpbig28 is an awsome turbo, I have also looked at some of the turbos slowboy racing has. I have heard that a hybrid turbo is the only way to go. 1/4 times maybe around low 12. I live in Colorado so I gain a second on my 1/4 times and lose about 12% in HP. Does anyone know what kind of HP numbers I could expect from a setup around 15psi. Any help would be awsome.

 

[Rob]

Ok theres a groop buy going on with the Agp turbo Its a T25/28 in the classified look under Groop buy or just groop.....
Its really a great turbo almost the same as fpt28 but at a better price 150.00 less then the Fp turbo on the groop buy and free porting of the turbo and this turbo spools up very fast at low rpms all the way through the rpms and is good for 350hp or more and will put you in the mid to low 13s with the right mods and in some freek cases a high 12 possible.
Thats right there with a VIPER waaaahhhooooo

 

[NosLaser]

Alright, let me get this straight. You are going to spend 2400 dollars on a built stroker motor, and waste it with some little willy T28? You are kidding right? Do yourself a favor. Get a turbo with a 50 trim (or 60 trim) compressor side, and a T3 hi-flow back wheel. Examples are the AGPL2R (I think) or an ETE32. That t28 will be a huge restriction with the motor you are putting behind it.

Regards,

 

[supereclipse]

Yeah all the money your putting into the engine get a turbo that will take advantage of that. Green l2 l2r ete32 any of those are pretty common.

 

[Rob]

True but if he wants a nice steet car and less worry to go with a smaller one then fine ....... im just answer his question so no one jump on me =0)

 

[nothing stock]

the best turbo for your setup is a Green, L2R, 50 trim T3T4. Take your pick.

I really hope your motor is blown if your considering swaping it for no reason your retarded.

 

[NosLaser]

With a built 2.2 stroker motor, if your goals are only 12's, then you must really be terrible at setting up a car. If I built a 2.2 stroker motor, my goal would likely be bottom 9's or faster. To get 12's in a DSM, get a 1G AWD, put exhaust a fuel pump and a clutch in it, and go to the track. Don't spend umpteen thousand dollars on a bad boy motor to run 12's. DSM'ers are so damn back-ass-wards. They either bolt the biggest turbo they can find on a completely stock motor with a stock fuel system, and stock sidemount, or they go out and spend 10 grand on a built motor so they can run a T28. Would it hurt that much to just do things the right way for just once??

Regards,

 

[dsm_racing`]

Let me put something straight. I never said I was going to put on a t28. All I did was ask I f that would be a resonable turbo. I ALSO said I looked at some from slowboy racing. I have heard that the green is the best model to go with. As for NosLaser who thinks he is a baddass by insulting people on not knowing how to SETUP A CAR without knowing a person is a crock of @#$*, wiseman my ass. Thanks to to rest for your help. If anyone knows where I can get these turbos for a resonable price would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Turbo]

Slowboy's internaly gated BB turbos look awfully tasty

 

[rdrkt]

Originally posted by dsm_racing`
Let me put something straight. I never said I was going to put on a t28. All I did was ask I f that would be a resonable turbo. I ALSO said I looked at some from slowboy racing. I have heard that the green is the best model to go with. As for NosLaser who thinks he is a baddass by insulting people on not knowing how to SETUP A CAR without knowing a person is a crock of @#$*, wiseman my ass. Thanks to to rest for your help. If anyone knows where I can get these turbos for a resonable price would be greatly appreciated.

Blah blah.

Aslan lacks sugar coating but his advice is correct. You seem to have lots of money but no idea how to properly spend it. This is why he is giving you a hard time because you are spending your money on the wrong things. You can run 12s in a 1g awd with basic bolt ons. It’s ridiculous to spend so much money to run 12s. Also if you are going to spend all the money to run a stroker motor get a BIG turbo like a 60-1, GT35R or larger. Lag is overrated. I have a big 60-1 and I’m getting a 4g64. The thing should spool like some people spool a big 16g yet it will make 550+hp on c16.

Don’t for a second fool yourself into thinking that your big power DSM will be a reliable daily driver. I have been down that route myself and found out that it doesn’t work that way. I run 117 traps on pump gas in my full weight 91 awd. I have witnessed first hand how long it takes to get a car “tuned” and all the issues you run into along the way.

 

[jdmawd]

minus all the rude comments, i think what they are trying to get across. is that with a 2.2L motor, you can run a much larger turbo and get very quick spool up. here are some good site so check out if you are looking for a bolt on ball bearing gt30 turbo

www.slowboyracing.com

www.agpturbo.com

 

[BatmanGSX]

Did anyone else notice that this guy has an RS?

*SIGH*

Dude, you aren't getting a stroker and you aren't getting a turbo. Give it up.

 

[rdrkt]

Originally posted by BatmanGSX
Did anyone else notice that this guy has an RS?

You know what I didnt nor did I notice this gem

Originally posted by dsm_racing`
I live in Colorado so I gain a second on my 1/4 times and lose about 12% in HP.

Batman Im sure you can clue him in

 

[NosLaser]

Alright..cat's out of the bag. The tool PM'ed me, and here is my reply:

Before you can go around thinking your a baddass bashing people on the internet you might want to check your self. For one I'm not terrible at setting up a car. Did you miss the main points about me living in colorado and my car being a daily driver. Considering I'm not going to strip my car down so it can run 9's. By me running low 12's - high 11's up here would be MINUS one second at sea level BECAUSE OF ELAVATION GAIN. Ever heard the term think before you speak maybe you should try it some time. I'll I did was ask a simple question and you gotta come and be a dick about it. If all your gonna do is gripe and #@%#@%#@%#@%#@% about something go somewhere else. How can you even make an assumption that I don't know how to setup a car without even knowing me baffels me. So you can continue to be a baddass bashing people you have never even met on the internet, I could say some things but I'm more mature than that.


...Before you can go around thinking your a baddass bashing people on the internet you might want to check your self....

Might want want to check myself huh? What in the blue hell is that supposed to be? Check myself how?

...For one I'm not terrible at setting up a car. Did you miss the main points about me living in colorado and my car being a daily driver....

Go re-read my post, and see where I said you couldn't set up a car. In fact, since you prolly WON'T go re-read it, I'll paste a part of it for you:

...With a built 2.2 stroker motor, if your goals are only 12's, then you must really be terrible at setting up a car....

I was clearly setting up for the fact that if your goals are only to have a 12 second daily driver, perhaps you could run a cheaper, less difficult setup to acheive your goal. I was trying to SAVE YOU MONEY.

...Considering I'm not going to strip my car down so it can run 9's. By me running low 12's - high 11's up here would be MINUS one second at sea level BECAUSE OF ELAVATION GAIN. Ever heard the term think before you speak maybe you should try it some time....

I knew full well what you meant. In knowing what you meant, I was offering you GOOD advice. You chose to have your head up your as$ instead of taking my advice. Go right ahead moron, spend $2400 on a stroker motor. But just keep in the back of your little pea-brain that you could run 12's on a STOCK motor with a 16G.

...I'll I did was ask a simple question and you gotta come and be a dick about it. If all your gonna do is gripe and #@%#@%#@%#@%#@% about something go somewhere else....

Wanna take a poll? Why don't you take a poll and see how many people want me to stay, as opposed to how many people want YOU to stay? If YOU don't like it, and can't take the heat from someone who actually knows what he's doing, and you want to have some little import circle jerk, why don't YOU leave?

...How can you even make an assumption that I don't know how to setup a car without even knowing me baffels me. So you can continue to be a baddass bashing people you have never even met on the internet, I could say some things but I'm more mature than that....

Yeah, you have shown your maturity immensely.

Regards,

 

[BatmanGSX]

Originally posted by rdrkt
Batman Im sure you can clue him in

I'm sure I don't have the time it would take accomplish such a task.

Running your car at Bandimere can be quite sobering, especially on a N/A car. You will wonder why your buddies with turbos can get within a half second of their car's MotorTrend time and you can't get within two. My first time out I ran a 16.3. I thought my car was broken. This guy would be doing himself a favor by going to Bandimere, he would do a 19.0 or something and realize modding an RS, especially up here, is pointless.

How's that for a clue?

 

[BatmanGSX]

Originally posted by Dork Boy
I'm not going to strip my car down so it can run 9's.

You're right, because you have an RS and it's never going to break the 16 second mark let alone the 10 second one.

 

[jdmawd]

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