10.3 on Fp68 HTA 16G

[TSIMonsteR]

Thats pretty awesome though. I'd be curious to how much slower, if any, the car would be the the E3 16g. See if the extra flow on the compressor side is really helping that much.

Nice times!

 

[forcefed86]

Thats pretty awesome though. I'd be curious to how much slower, if any, the car would be the the E3 16g. See if the extra flow on the compressor side is really helping that much.

Nice times!

If you look at his other thread thats what he started with... I think it bested 10.5x's.

 

[LucasEnglish]

I did one 10.6 on the EVOIII few 10.7 and ran 10.8 all day. Now the car has ran best of 10.2 quite a few 10.3 and 10.4-10.5 all day.

This setup with out the Meth and V3 is much so much simpler.

Still the stock trans that came in the car with a shift kit and blue wire mod.

 

[Phil1320]

Very nice. I thought the 10.6-10.7's were impressive. Now heading toward single digits is pretty insane! Keep it up!

 

[94awdcoupe]

amazing the stock tranny has that much life. How many passes now on that 160k mile tranny??

 

[dsm-onster]

I've saved most of my auto stuff when I converted to a 5 speed just because these dsm automatics are so impressive!!!

 

[1qkfwd]

Haha I had to go gather all the parts to swap over to auto. Whn I get done breaking trannys I'm ready to swap.

 

[autotalon]

Perhaps a re-stall is in order? Might be enough to get you into the 9's.

 

[forcefed86]

Perhaps a re-stall is in order? Might be enough to get you into the 9's.

If anything I think that would slow him down... The combo of the tiny turbo and tight converter are what makes it so snappy down low and MPH so high at the end of the 1/4. He already can't 60' any better than 1.5x's without breaking parts. A looser converter would just slow him down up top. Unless he went with a larger turbo which would snowball into 100 other needed up-grades.

I'm thinking that setup is maxed out. It has no more gear and can't 60' any better.

IMO the only other thing to do is taller tires and a a little juice. May squeak into the 10 teens.

Then again, it's freekin beautiful! I wouldn't change a thing....

 

[LucasEnglish]

Could have not said it better my self.

Also I started clicking OD at about 7k and if feels pretty good. So taller tires is not really needed. Going to do a few more break mods for my wife and get a little more weight out of the car so in the right conditions there should be another tenth left in it

Bet a little 50shot would get it into the 9's but that opens another can of worms I dont want to deal with at my local tracks.

 

[camfast]

When i break my TRE tranny i will highly consider going auto. Reliable and fast, enough said!

 

[autotalon]

If anything I think that would slow him down... The combo of the tiny turbo and tight converter are what makes it so snappy down low and MPH so high at the end of the 1/4. He already can't 60' any better than 1.5x's without breaking parts. A looser converter would just slow him down up top. Unless he went with a larger turbo which would snowball into 100 other needed up-grades.

I'm thinking that setup is maxed out. It has no more gear and can't 60' any better.

IMO the only other thing to do is taller tires and a a little juice. May squeak into the 10 teens.

Then again, it's freekin beautiful! I wouldn't change a thing....

I wouldn't say that.

With a higher stall he could break torque more boost on the line. (how much boost at launch Lucas?) 1/10th in the 60' = 2/10th in the quarter.

Based on my experience and research, a stall can shave anywhere from .5-1.0 second.

 

[LucasEnglish]

A higher stall would slow the car down. If I could hold it back it could do 40psi at the line. With that kinda of TQ the stock stall will hit over 4k. I can only hold it back to about 3900. Thats with 30in vac pump and an extra 2in leverage on the pedal.

Or 5spd car with the max EVOIII combo like this does 509ftlbs of TQ I would imagine with the 2.3 that I am close to 550ftl lbs through a 5spd. The whip starts around 3200rpm so if the converter stayed there I think it could do 40+psi at 3200 RPM if I waited long enough.

I think on a better prepped track ware I would not hop and lower tire pressure i could cut quite a few 1.4s with no problem.

 

[1qkfwd]

A restall would probably be to loose on the top side. The setup is ran perfect right now as is. The weakest link is the t-case. Find a fix for that and maybe suspension changes and I'm sure you can sweak another tenth or two off that time.

 

[LucasEnglish]

Just got back from the track. Still the same Amazing car.

Ran 3 10.3's 1 10.2 and my slowest of a 10.4

Got the video of the 10.2 this time so I will have it up Sunday I hope.

Also got a new best MPH of 131.

 

[Black_Bullet]

I think theres still some bolt on power increases to be made as well as more weight lose that could possibly step the trap speed up another 4-5mph and get it into the single digits on a full effort pass. But otherwise, it is a perfect dsm in regards to track performance...

 

[forcefed86]

Just got back from the track. Still the same Amazing car.

Ran 3 10.3's 1 10.2 and my slowest of a 10.4

Got the video of the 10.2 this time so I will have it up Sunday I hope.

Also got a new best MPH of 131.

Congrats...

 

[zacson]

Amazing times for that setup!!.. Are you using the same internal gate FP supplies with the turbo? If so, what boost controller are you using to get 30#'s?

 

[forcefed86]

Amazing times for that setup!!.. Are you using the same internal gate FP supplies with the turbo? If so, what boost controller are you using to get 30#'s?

There is a picture of it in the first post.... Yes it's the internal gate.

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Turbo is ported to create boost creep....As his level there really isn't boost control just lock the wg shut and see how high you can get the boost...

 

[LucasEnglish]

Yep just how they send it out. We port the turbo to creep which helps with boost out he top.

Here is the Video
YouTube - English Racing goes 10.2@131 in 1G Automatic on FP 68HTA stock Framed turbo

Due to he Auto I doubt there is much more trap. I do think we can get about 100 more lbs out of it. So maybe a 9.9 some day.

 

[forcefed86]

Due to he Auto I doubt there is much more trap. I do think we can get about 100 more lbs out of it. So maybe a 9.9 some day.

Do you run a temp gauge on your trans fluid? Change it often? Ever burn? What do you use for fluid?

Yep just how they send it out. We port the turbo to creep which helps with boost out he top.

Ever consider doing a write up with a few pics showing how you port it to creep? I've had it described to me a few times and each time it has been a different method. Your method seems to be the only one getting great results.

Unless of course this is a service you provide at your shop. Don't want to mess with anyones livelihood.

 

[LucasEnglish]

Have never burned the fluid, just on some Cheap Napa type F fluid, If I make more then 4 passes in 20 min I have seen the temp lite. That was on the 2.0 that took alot longer then the 2.3 to stall up. Have not seen the lite on the 2.3. So no it does not have a trans temp gauge.

We do offer the port service for $75 from our shop. Of course it would never work right for pump fuel.

 

[Black_Bullet]

Im selling my FP manifold to a friend, if he wasnt getting it already Id sell it to you cheap just to see if it made your car run faster or not. Do you think solid motor mounts and stiffer suspension would get you out of the hole quicker?

 

[LucasEnglish]

She ran a new best of 132mph on the snow tires this weekend and still runs 10.3 on the snow tires

 

[jrohner]

Great results!

How would you go about tuning for a better launch with an automatic? I have a 1G with a bolton Holset H1C running E85 that I'm planning to drag race, but it takes me probably 10 seconds to get to 5psi, after that the boost rises faster. I've played with timing a little with no good results, and fixing boost leaks didn't really help. I'm wanting to say with a stock engine, but I'm thinking I may have to go with a 2.4 or at least higher compression (I'm not spending 5-600+ to restall the converter). On the street I get 20-25psi at around 3500rpms, and it never seems laggy at all anywhere except trying to launch.