Which Turbo Should I Get [merged] What Turbo

[Ludachris]

Which turbo will be sufficient for consistent 11 second times? I've recently decided on a big 16g, but will that be big enough to run 11s with supporting mods and decent tuning? Remember, this is for a budget street car, so any one purchase over $1k is tough. A big 16g will run about $700-900, which is about $300-400 less than the larger alternatives.

Of course, I'll need lots of practice to run these times, but, I just want to make sure that it's possible before the money is spent.

 

[WhiteCloud]

I don't have any plans to go huge as far a hp goes as I am a poor college student and can't even really afford this new turbo.

Then why are you buying a v-trim? Go with a 16g--it's a great street turbo, and will put you in the mid 12s with good supporting mods.

I'm a college student, too, and my lightly used EvoIII 16g turbo setup cost $700 for the turbo, injectors, and SAFC, installed

 

[RavenX]

In your situation i would just either get another t25 or a 14b. You can't just slap on a turbo of this size and expect it to run fine. And considering that your poor in the first place another t25 could go for $200 and you can have $ left over for some basic bolt ons. In my opinion the turbo should be the last thing you upgrade because everthing else leads up to it. As for the vtrim running at 12psi i doubt it will work that good. Your injectors are still stock and i am sure as hell know you will be running 100% injector duty cycle.

Edit: Guys beat me to it , A small 16g or a B16g will do u good as well

 

[MattyD]

Thanks for the help. I thought that it might be too big for my application. Looks like I will go with the E316g. I would get another t-25, but I figure if I have to replace it, I might as well get something better.

 

[RavenX]

Thanks for the help. I thought that it might be too big for my application. Looks like I will go with the E316g. I would get another t-25, but I figure if I have to replace it, I might as well get something better.

True, just don't run more than 14psi

 

[Eclipsei95cl]

If I remember correctly there was a thread with like 10 pages long called the evo 16g vs the to4b..

But ya for you EVO 16g All the way.. if your not looking to get alot of HP and from the sound of it you arent gonna have alot of supporting mods yet, the evo 16g will be your best bet.

 

[nazthug]

In your situation i would just either get another t25 or a 14b. You can't just slap on a turbo of this size and expect it to run fine. And considering that your poor in the first place another t25 could go for $200 and you can have $ left over for some basic bolt ons. In my opinion the turbo should be the last thing you upgrade because everthing else leads up to it. As for the vtrim running at 12psi i doubt it will work that good. Your injectors are still stock and i am sure as hell know you will be running 100% injector duty cycle.

Edit: Guys beat me to it , A small 16g or a B16g will do u good as well

totally agreed, im tired of fully setup 16g's putting out better numbers that newbies slapping on 50trims with nothing else making 230whp ....


while you guys keep debading on which snail is better, i had myself another kill today with my crappy, bad, old t04b

went at it with a supercharged 99 saleen, with a cobra motor, atiprocharged intercooler, 8lb, on the freeway, and took him by about 1 car in just 3rd gear....


so they're right, get another t25, those are dope

 

[BrokenTsi]

if you're poor, you can buy my fully ported 14b. Its like night and day compared to a t25. I ran a 13.2 on it with just exhaust, a fuel pump, and a boost controller. PM me.

 

[ITSME4G63]

tb04 can make so much power than 16g, but 16g is more reliable in your situation.

 

[MattyD]

Well, I just ordered this today. My new EVo III 16g I think it should be quite nice. I think that I will just leave my stock rewired fuel pump for now, and leave it at stock boost. Then when I get a AFPR I'll throw in the 255 and turn up the boost to about 14 or so. Sound good? Thanks for all the help.

~Matt

 

[RavenX]

Well, I just ordered this today. My new EVo III 16g I think it should be quite nice. I think that I will just leave my stock rewired fuel pump for now, and leave it at stock boost. Then when I get a AFPR I'll throw in the 255 and turn up the boost to about 14 or so. Sound good? Thanks for all the help.

~Matt

If you have the 255 i would just put it in now and rewire it later when u get the AFPR

 

[NJdsmguru]

I'm looking to upgrade my td06 20g. I have ran the best of 11.55@119 with with 20g @ 28 psi c16. I need the next turbo to be streetable and be worth the upgrade from a 20g. There's plenty of hybrids and bolt on Garrets out there now but I need to know which one are worth it. I want a turbo that can make more power than my 20g on pump gas and make more power on race gas @ 22-25 psi boost while keeping ill street characteristics( response and spoolup).I have following supporting mods...ross 9.0:1 pistons,eagle rods, no b shafts,mitsu 4 layer hg,arps, ported head, hks 264's,walbro 255 lph,FIC 650cc's,HKS 40mm external gate,ported 2g manifold ,afc,2g maf, Spearco FMIC 24x7x3,MSD DIS-2,HKS EVC, Full 3" exhaust,Charged air FPR,3" custom Intake pipe,magnecore wires, 4 bolt rear, act 2600lb clutch,welded diff...plus more

Here's the turbo's I was looking at FP green...not much more powerful than 20g timeslips.....AGP RS60T....Bullseye TO4e 60 trim......SCM 61........Holset HX 35..... or just spray 20g with 75 shot wet or recommend me a turbo????

 

[evolvingGS-t]

Give Buschur a call. I have had awesome results in the past from them. Thats the only recommendation I have.
If you want to go with a high produced turbo, you're going to lose some sense of security. Rather than a "home made" turbo such as buschurs.

 

[Steve93Talon]

You've got at least 1/2 second and 5 mph left in the 20g, why not stick with it? If you go to a 50 trim or similar size, it's gonna have more lag and not really make much - if any - more power. If you go with a 60 trim or bigger, you're in a whole other league in terms of lag and also how much boost you'll have to run to put the turbo into it's efficient range.

 

[1SloColt]

The SCM61 should be a nice turbo with the 9.0:1 compression and your supporting mods. But I would recommend a ball bearing turbo for little better spool up and good response and since an AWD car actually hooks for the most part, maybe a PTE GT3582R.

 

[DSMSpyder99]

FP 3065

 

[GSX4LIFE]

Your having extreme success with your 20G. I generally tell people to stear clear of them when upgrading. But when one comes along that rips like yours does...hold onto it. I have a good buddy(Tort), who you may know. He runs a *little* 20G as well. Yeah, and 11.0 at 124mph(?). He asked me the same question awhile back. I told him the same thing. Keep that damn thing. You may be on to something with the nitrous. Maybe a 50shot. You'll run 10s, Im sure. The you can add your name to the elite few that have managed a 10sec pass on a 20G.

 

[NJdsmguru]

You know what? I gave it some thought and I really don't see any reason to upgrade my turbo. I see these To4e 50-57-60 trims ,to4b ,Fp green, and other turbos of that caliper not really much more powerful than 20g. I talking track #'s. I think my td06 20g is so ill tempered because of my 9.0:1 comp and retarding of exhaust cam.This thing is spooling like a 16g if not faster.On the street spoolup is great and has nasty top end. I'm gonna try to focus on tuning out some more power and prepping it for NITROUS and weight reductions. I would love to drop my 1/8th mile et from 7.3 to 7.0 which net me low 11's or high 10's. I'm gonna get rid of 2g maf and go with gm maft/afc combo or vpc/combo .Swap in my HKS 264's (remove webcams 546/547),redo my intercooler piping shorter, scrap that leaking Greddy types bov for crushed 1g bov, Nitrous 50-75 wet shot and some 15" lightweight rims or 16x8 rims with drag radials. I think all the above mods will be more beneficial and cheaper than buying a new HYBRID turbo.

 

[gixxer]

i think that is a very wise decision. good luck on your 10!

 

[NOSLO2PT0]

I vote for the FP Green. I ran your ET's on PUMP GAS! That's the ultimate turbo there

 

[definitiveno]

yep, there are guys (who cant drive, ) that have your trap speeds on pump with fp30 models. Whatever your doing has little to do with your turbo, and more to do with your skill at manipulating the tune and being able to drive your car IMO. Damn decent times BTW.....damn decent

 

[definitiveno]

missed NOSLO2PT0's post there apparently he's making nice et's too

 

[blitz43]

*claps it up* props to you and ure achievement man!!!!!

right now im trying to decide what turbo should invest my tax return on and from ure results......

i should keep everything mitsu!!!!!

tdo6 20g here i come

 

[monotalonawd]

You know what? I gave it some thought and I really don't see any reason to upgrade my turbo. I see these To4e 50-57-60 trims ,to4b ,Fp green, and other turbos of that caliper not really much more powerful than 20g. I talking track #'s.

NJdsmguru, after reading that, you just convinced me to go through with the 20g comp. wheel I just bought to convert my 17c . Thanks a lot!

 

[Steve93Talon]

Whatever your doing has little to do with your turbo, and more to do with your skill at manipulating the tune and being able to drive your car IMO.

Amen.


Stick with the weight reduction plan, hold off on the spray, you're only adding another variable that could result in mixed results. And why did you get 264s? I'd at least get a 272 exhaust cam with that turbo.

Blitz, why not just get a TD06H-20g? It'll spool the same and have a bit more top end.

 

[Max-Eclipse]

Ok, I've decided to make my 420a faster for now, and wait till im making more money consistantly, instead of just saving up money to buy a GSX... as that will take a while. So, im going to be buying a turbo setup and FMIC for my car... but there are so many out there its mind boggling... the evo3 16G seems to have like 20 different Big16G, Small16G, this, that, and the other types...

whats a good one for little lag, and good power.... im not looking to get a ton of horsepower out of it... I'd like to make it a 12 - 13 second car...

suggestions on what turbo setup to get please...

thanks