Which Turbo Should I Get [merged] What Turbo

[Ludachris]

Which turbo will be sufficient for consistent 11 second times? I've recently decided on a big 16g, but will that be big enough to run 11s with supporting mods and decent tuning? Remember, this is for a budget street car, so any one purchase over $1k is tough. A big 16g will run about $700-900, which is about $300-400 less than the larger alternatives.

Of course, I'll need lots of practice to run these times, but, I just want to make sure that it's possible before the money is spent.

 

[Eagle 5]

Im getting a 1G AWD this summer and Im curiuos as to what turbo would be needed to hit 10's on 92-94 octane. I wont be using race gas and i wont be using a test pipe. I want to hit 10's, even if its a 10.99999999 it stilss a ten, on pump gas. no race gas and i will be using a high flow cat (one reason for not using race gas). so with that said. what turbo would i need to be able to hit 10's?

also, would having a 8 injector set up make it easier to hit 10's on pump gas or would that even help?

also NO NITROUS

 

[Tevenor]

10's on pumpgas WITH a cat and WITH a range of 92-94 octane. **sigh**

1) Strip the car down to <2500 lbs.
2) Buy a Red from FP.
3) Build up EVERYTHING including the tranny, engine, etc.
4) Spend an ungodly amount of money trying to do it the hard way.

Why don't you want to use race gas? Why don't you want to use a Test pipe? Either you are a racer or your not. A true racer will do anything to make his car go faster, including using race gas, and no sissy Cat's for you. If you really want to go 10's, untwist you high cut french panties and look at it from a realistic perspective.

If you really want to do 10's on pumpgas, save the money and aggravation you will get by trying to get that 1G into it and spend it on a Z06. Then throw $5000 into that and have fun.

 

[Eagle 5]

it was more of a whether or not its possible scenario. i msot likely will be using race gas and test pipe if i ever do go to the track., another wuestion though is what turbo would be good for 10's? my main thing is i dont want to use nitrous..but they may change. id rather do it without nitrous though

 

[Tevenor]

Originally posted by Eagle 5
it was more of a whether or not its possible scenario. i msot likely will be using race gas and test pipe if i ever do go to the track., another wuestion though is what turbo would be good for 10's? my main thing is i dont want to use nitrous..but they may change. id rather do it without nitrous though

I was leaving this open because maybe this could stay technical. However if you can't be bothered to proof read what you type (or worse yet you can't spell), then this discussion is over. Feel free to resubmit the thread when you plan on spending a little time on your questions and posts.

Thread closed.

 

[BoostNV]

Hello,
Now I know that I will need to do the supporting mods. But which turbo should I buy if I want a streetable car that will run at least 12.5 in the 1/4. Please give me some options and which is the easiest route.

 

[BoostNV]

OK so since asking general suggestions in out I will ask this question I have looked and can't find Where can I find advantages and disadvantages of the more popular turbo choices.

 

[RipperXX]

well i will point out this.. you can run mid 12's on the stock 14b turbo... (not to easy though)

 

[Dieselboy]

If thats all you want, get a 16G.

 

[dsmbandit]

Well i have been thinking over and over about turbo I should go with. I thought it would be a good idea to ask and get some feeback from everyone and then decide what I should lean towards more. The turbos I was thinking about are: 16g, big 16g, FP t28. I'm just not sure which one i should lean more to with what i have done to my car. Any feedback is appreciated.

 

[swordfish]

What are your goals?

jeff

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by dsmbandit
Well i have been thinking over and over about turbo I should go with. I thought it would be a good idea to ask and get some feeback from everyone and then decide what I should lean towards more. The turbos I was thinking about are: 16g, big 16g, FP t28. I'm just not sure which one i should lean more to with what i have done to my car. Any feedback is appreciated.

I think you should read the posting guidlines regarding posting turbo selection questons and stop wasting out time with this garbage.

hi my name is bob what turbo should i get? i want to go vroom vroom real hard and fast

 

[dsmbandit]

Sorry Jdmawd i'm sorry i posted garbage and didn't ask you if it was ok. If you didn't want any part of this then why did you take time to post. It seems like you were wasting time posting here. Is b/c you want to try to piss people off. I don't appreciate it and all I'm asking is a lil feedback from people from what they are running and what were the pros and cons. My goals are 300fwhp and 13 second 1/4 time. Remember its fwd too, a lil downfall.

 

[peregrine]

you can spend $1100 for a 20g or you can spend $950 for a PTE/AGP/ETC 50trim. simple choice really.

 

[Cirus_93TSI]

it still depends heavily on what u want out of the car, if u want to drive it every day and race around at low rpm on the street then get a t28, if u want to trade off all ur low and torque for top and power get a 16g, and if ur only looking to make 300 whp then u dont need a 20g, its a 400hp turbo
id say get the t28, its all u will need to make 300whp, or u could get the 16g, the small 16g will probally suit ur car better, just like the 20g a big 16g is made to put out more power then ur aiming for
but u might as well start saving ur money now because u arent getting anywhere near 300whp untill u get injectors and fuel control, ur stock inectors are good to about 250whp, after that u will hit fuel cut, so ur better off buying them and installing it all at once then getting a new turbo only to find u cant punch it cause it will hit fuel cut

 

[Jason84]

well this is going to be on a dialy driver. i have the money to spend. im replacing everything and getting headwork done. the only thing thats staying stock is the engine block and other minor parts. but adding new pistons rods cams valvesprings and everything.

id like the car to be reliable. and somewhat efficent since it will be a daily driver.

i dont know much about turbos but have been reading about them all weekend. so im asking everybody what they all think i should get ? im going to be running premium pump fuel also.

and i have about 10+ grand to spend. im going with a 3" intake and a full VRS 3" turbo back exhaust. w/ or w/o the o2 eliminator i dont know.
but i was thinking of getting everything new intake manifold exhaust manifold wastegate (would like an external but internal is fine to) tial BOV and whatever else i need. i dont know much about these but have been reading for a week straight about the DSMs.

i was looking at getting the T3/T4 50 trim .63 stage 3 kit from dsmotor sports. but some people tell me i should probably go wtihs omething else. so i want all the opinions i can get.

and if anybody has a nice street setup. let me know what you have.

 

[abrxy3]

um pistons and rods are in the engine block, therefore it will no longer be stock. if you want daily driver, you will probably not want the horsepower that makes bottom end work needed. the 50 trim kit that ure talking about will require fuel and control, but will still be efficient and safe w/o getting your block worked on, though cams are usually suggested with full garret kits. check out www.agpturbo.com and look at their full garret setup.

 

[Jason84]

yeah i was looking at the kits there to. i was goign to get that one over the dsmotor sports because of the SS exhaust manifold.

i just want the engine to last thats why iw as going to change the pistons/rods. i want something that will handle almost double what im putting at it so it will be durable. unless i really want to turn up the boost to have some fun i can.

im planning on getting an AEM ECU also.

and i also was going to get the walbro 255 with like 750 or so injectors. and a FPR.

 

[Jason84]

any other opinions?

 

[Goro21]

The setups your talking about.. wont ever make a good daily driver or really reliable car, as you'll be putting down enough hp to break everything imaginable (especially driveline parts since you have and X). Instead of an FPR or t3/t4, i'd look more into an FPG or atleast something in that range. Just my .02

 

[Jason84]

i am going to be upgrading the transmission and putting a 4 bolt rear end in.

 

[Cirus_93TSI]

ur still going to break things no matter how much driveline work u do, ur talking about driving around every day on a drag set up, if u were going with something like a 20g it might still be a reliable daily driver but its kinda pointless to go with a big full garret set up if ur going to drive the car to work every day, the way ur planing on building it will make it a hell of a drag car but its going to drive like crap when cruising at low rpm, and ur going to end up being scared to put the gas down for fear of breaking axles or a differential, when u get to the hp numbers ur taliing about making with that set up every time u make 1 part stronger it shifts that stress to another part, get aftemarket axles and u will break diffs and ur trans instead, unless ur planing on spending 15k on the driveline alone u will break things
im going to tell u the same thing someone tells everyone who asks this type of question, u need to figure out ur goals before anyone can help u decide on what set up u should get, are u aiming to run a certain time, or for a certain hp number, or do u just want something that will be able to beat whatever car tries to race u on the street? if u want to have a 350whp street car u dont need half of what ur planing on buying, and if u really do want a 500+hp street car u need to think about buying another car to drive every day
and many people here will probally disagree with me but i suggest u get a mitsubishi turbo or a mitsu garret hybrid, IMO a mitsu turbo would be much more driveable due to how it spoils and builds boost, but u probally shouldnt go by me cause i absolutly hate garret turbos
oh, and get a magnus intake mani, its nice and no matter what turbo u get u will be quite happy with it

 

[Jason84]

ok
basically i just want to beat the V8 stangs camaros etc. on the street.(and the kids with there dads brand new vettes that think they are fast but are all stock)

i dont plan on doing any track drag racing or anything. but i also do want the power to be there when id like to have it.
i dont want driveline breaking power but i would like something better then stock.


and i'd rather spend more money to make it reliable then be broken down on the side of the road on the way to work.

 

[TaloNKiD505]

Originally posted by Jason84


and i'd rather spend more money to make it reliable then be broken down on the side of the road on the way to work.

If u want to beat almost everything on the road but still be reliable go with the 20g.This way u wont have to do anything half ass because u spent so much money fixing eveything because of the t4 turbo that u put in.A low 12 second car will destroy any ss,cobra,or ws6 u see on the road(well most likely).So my opinion is go with 20g this way after u do that u can beef up the driveline and tranny and support the turbo well so that everything will work together better and not break.Hope that helped without flaming for being an a*hole because your probaly gunna catch a lot of crap for wanting to go t/4 but do what u want .
Matt

 

[Cirus_93TSI]

u can beat most mustangs on stock turbo, im running a stock 14b with exhaust, an MBC, and an act clutch and iv yet to see a mustang that could beat me without thousands invested on internals, a vette on the other hand would reqiire a new turbo, a 20g will probally suit ur needs quite well, u can easily make well over 350 wheel hp with it, that should be enough o beat any non-turbo domestic
this reminds me of something funny that happened the other nite, my friend tried to race a vette in his 2g(w/ stock t25), whats funny is that he punched it and the vette..... spoils up its turbos and flys past him, it turned out to be a dual turbo lingenfeltter vette, it even had the badges on the side, it was freakin fast
u can run low 12s or high 11s on a 20g depending on how much motor work u have, that should be more then enough to keep u happy on pump gas, with an external wastegate, whatever internal motor work ur getting, a good engine management system(im looking at an apexi power fc stand alone because its the only one iv found that has its own controler and does not use a laptop, i cant afford a laptop), and ur usual air flow and cooling mods u should be able to make short work of almost anything that pulls up next to u
my advice is that u shouldnt overshoot ur goals and buy things u dont need, if u do ur just asking for things to break, keep a low boost level when ur driving to work, u dont need to be on 22 psi all the time, and make sure u beef up ur driveline(aftermarket axles, driveshaft, and maybe differentials if u can afford it), and get a good suspension, it can make all the difference when u get into the higher horsepower numbers
and above all else, get alot of guages and keep ur eye on them and ur datalogger, make sure ur engine isnt knocking and ur timing is where it should be, it would be a shame make ur car fast like u want it only to have ur engine detonate cause u werent monitoring ur guages and datalogger, and always run the highest octane gas u can get, i run 94

 

[Jason84]

so what exacly is the diff between the garret t3/t4 50 trim and the 20g? what do they spool up at?

couldnt i just turn down the garre tto when i dont want alot of power or does it move to much air or what?