Where are the FWDs at????

[killakev805]

I'm here to rep the fwd's, I ran a 13.65 @ 99 mph on sunday. I will get a better time soon, my 60' was 2.5's and I had to let off on my fastest run because of knock. After I get the tune a little better, I can make more power, and if I start getting the launch down I might make it down into the 12's. It's hard though on my 18" low profile tires, I might invest in some slicks.

 

[DSMcamaro]

I'm here to rep the fwd's, I ran a 13.65 @ 99 mph on sunday. I will get a better time soon, my 60' was 2.5's and I had to let off on my fastest run because of knock. After I get the tune a little better, I can make more power, and if I start getting the launch down I might make it down into the 12's. It's hard though on my 18" low profile tires, I might invest in some slicks.

Thats a good time but your trap speed seems a little low.
edit: nevermind, re-read your post.....sucks you had to let off.

 

[killakev805]

Thats a good time but your trap speed seems a little low.
edit: nevermind, re-read your post.....sucks you had to let off.

yeah I know, as soon as I get some cash to spare for race fuel I am going back to see if I can't do better. If I can get the 60 ft. down and get the tune down good I may see a high 12, that would be awesome on a 16g fwd with street tires.

 

[SICKWITitTSI]

Fwd dsmer checking in here, And loving every minute

 

[nicknorth11]

well guys, last year sucked pretty bad for me, but i'm hoping to do much better in the next month or two. i don't have it in my profile, but my major mods include:

stroked 2.3L
gt28rs dual ball bearing turbo (only good for 350 bhp ) [don't ask]
full exhaust
intake setup
fmic
680's
255 pump
link v2
2100
bs removed
lightened flywheel
dual stage boost controller
supporting crap

anyway, i still need some tires, but other than that i should run pretty good. i should be able to max out the turbo pretty easily and i'm hoping to do so over a good rpm range with this turbo. i'll post when i finally run it and let ya know what i get.

p.s.~i'm not hoping for great numbers since i have this turbo. my main idea for this car is to be fast and still great for dd with minimal lag.

good luck to all fwd's!

 

[redfury]

Compared to some FWD's on this thread, my GST is slow


I ran 14.2@98mph on the crappy T25, car has a blown engine now, so im going for a 6-bolt swap and a B16G with all supporting mods, by next summer/fall im looking for
high 12s.

 

[98evoIIIpwr]

well guys, last year sucked pretty bad for me, but i'm hoping to do much better in the next month or two. i don't have it in my profile, but my major mods include:

stroked 2.3L
gt28rs dual ball bearing turbo (only good for 350 bhp ) [don't ask]
full exhaust
intake setup
fmic
680's
255 pump
link v2
2100
bs removed
lightened flywheel
dual stage boost controller
supporting crap

anyway, i still need some tires, but other than that i should run pretty good. i should be able to max out the turbo pretty easily and i'm hoping to do so over a good rpm range with this turbo. i'll post when i finally run it and let ya know what i get.

p.s.~i'm not hoping for great numbers since i have this turbo. my main idea for this car is to be fast and still great for dd with minimal lag.

good luck to all fwd's!

Why a stroker? It seems wierd to go with a stroker on FWD. AWD guys love it because of the launch and auto torque it produces. It seems to me it would make it much harder to get traction on a FWD. I guess the power is there if you can get/maintain traction but if you cant then it seems you got yourself into even worse of a traction issue.

 

[Generation X]

Compared to some FWD's on this thread, my GST is slow


I ran 14.2@98mph on the crappy T25, car has a blown engine now, so im going for a 6-bolt swap and a B16G with all supporting mods, by next summer/fall im looking for
high 12s.

That sounds about right bro, for the mods that you have.

I've not seen to many 2g fwd's trap over a 100 mph in the 1/4 with the stock T-25, unless there on spray of course.

 

[thekellbeast]

Why a stroker? It seems wierd to go with a stroker on FWD. AWD guys love it because of the launch and auto torque it produces. It seems to me it would make it much harder to get traction on a FWD. I guess the power is there if you can get/maintain traction but if you cant then it seems you got yourself into even worse of a traction issue.

The SRT-4 has a 2.4 liter engine, right? That seems to be working out for those guys.

 

[98evoIIIpwr]

The SRT-4 has a 2.4 liter engine, right? That seems to be working out for those guys.

I wouldnt quite say its exactly "working." They still have traction issues. The only thing is a stroker motor is claimed to add over 100 lb/ft of torque. That would put a first or second gen DSM above 300 lb/ft. I believe an SRT-4 aka neon is around 250. Plus from the factory these cars were set up with LSD and with the concept of that kind of power already built into the design of vehicle. SRT's w/o LSD (the first year or two they came out) have horrible traction issues. Im not saying it's bad so PLEASE dont get me wrong. Power is power. I was simply saying that I would think it to be easier accomplishing better 1/4 mi e.t.s with a 2.0.

 

[nicknorth11]

The only thing is a stroker motor is claimed to add over 100 lb/ft of torque. That would put a first or second gen DSM above 300 lb/ft.

Actually, a stroker only adds roughly 30 lb/ft. according to sbr, which I bought it from. It's not that much of a difference upon takeoff. However, the spool up time is reduced noticably. The primary reason I did it, though, is because it eliminated some of the theories of crank-walk.

Side benefits include a bit of rarity and a very nice sound, which is slightly deeper.

 

[98evoIIIpwr]

Actually, a stroker only adds roughly 30 lb/ft. according to sbr, which I bought it from. It's not that much of a difference upon takeoff. However, the spool up time is reduced noticably. The primary reason I did it, though, is because it eliminated some of the theories of crank-walk.

Side benefits include a bit of rarity and a very nice sound, which is slightly deeper.

Hmmm 30 ft/lbs? I guess you would know better then me though. I have heard results in the 100 plus range. I guess if its only 30 then it wouldnt be too bad, especially considering the faster spool.

 

[killakev805]

checking back in, I went back to the track last night and got a better time.

13.53 @107 on 18" street tires.

 

[nicknorth11]

Hmmm 30 ft/lbs? I guess you would know better then me though. I have heard results in the 100 plus range. I guess if its only 30 then it wouldnt be too bad, especially considering the faster spool.

Trust me, I would notice 100 ft./lbs.! I'm only stroked to a 2.3, whereas some go with a 2.4, so obviously the numbers vary, but I'm sure that even 2.4's don't get anything close to 100 ft/lbs.

I got one more thing to add to the list of new mods today. HKS 272's. I can't wait to get all this stuff on and tuned! It should be awefully quick.

 

[jpbrazill]

Hmmm 30 ft/lbs? I guess you would know better then me though. I have heard results in the 100 plus range. I guess if its only 30 then it wouldnt be too bad, especially considering the faster spool.

I gained 75ft/lbs from my 2.4 on a stock 14b at the wheels. I finally broke the 400whp barrier at 407whp, 398torque....not to bad for a turbo 4 popper.

2.4L, Wisecos, Eagles, removed bs, cometic hg, ported head
Garrett 57 trim T3/T04E, Turbonetics Mani, Tial 38mm WG
FIC 1000s, Walbro 255, SAFCII, SX FPR
Spearco FMIC, 2G maf
Window track modualtor 5000
OEM oil leak detection bearing WTF
Additional spark plugs added to crank shaft for better boost response

J.P.

 

[SteveL]

Were starting to loose this thread.

So couple of weeks ago I went 11.95 at 121.29 with a 60 of 1.94.
My first and only 11 sec. pass. but I also do-12.02-12.04-12.07-12.12.

This was done with a SBRG50 internal gate,kinetic fmic,hks272,dsmlinketc...
I was on race gas at 27-28psi going down to 24psi.
I was also on 24.5-8.5-15 slick spinning bad in first gear.
It was a great day, the car could not have been better, it would be so nice if it could be always like that but hey its a DSM.

I went back 2 weeks ago to do only one pass before my diff. give up(only the third one this summer ). I managed to do a 12.36 at 117 with a 60 of 2.00at 22psi.

Here a vid with low quality, went 12.12 at 123mph against a 11.83 at 111mph : http://videos.qsrproductions.com/recentvideos/2/687c1cfa-2274-4992-8b32-9838016a3d01.htm

Keep up the great work everyone.

Steve

 

[Generation X]

Were starting to loose this thread.

So couple of weeks ago I went 11.95 at 121.29 with a 60 of 1.94.
My first and only 11 sec. pass. but I also do-12.02-12.04-12.07-12.12.

This was done with a SBRG50 internal gate,kinetic fmic,hks272,dsmlinketc...
I was on race gas at 27-28psi going down to 24psi.
I was also on 24.5-8.5-15 slick spinning bad in first gear.
It was a great day, the car could not have been better, it would be so nice if it could be always like that but hey its a DSM.

I went back 2 weeks ago to do only one pass before my diff. give up(only the third one this summer ). I managed to do a 12.36 at 117 with a 60 of 2.00at 22psi.

Here a vid with low quality, went 12.12 at 123mph against a 11.83 at 111mph : http://videos.qsrproductions.com/recentvideos/2/687c1cfa-2274-4992-8b32-9838016a3d01.htm

Keep up the great work everyone.

Steve

That's kick ass bro!

 

[1gjosh]

im rockin the fwd as well but i may be going awd , well see i might just stick to fwd because you guys are running dang good.

 

[95grntsi]

after reading through this thread there is no doubt in my mind that i am buying a set of slicks and an act 2600 clutch. after disappointment this year with my best time of 14.6 @86(missed 4th) and cut a 2.5 60ft time, not to mention the tires broke loose in every gear including 4th, i need to get the traction down now. that run was on two boost leaks and no tune what so ever. so this winter should keep me very busy, looking to get dyno tune at AMS and fix my traction problems. other than that the car is solid and my goal is a 12.## and trap @ at least 105mph. i do have to say that my keydiver with the 2-step rev limiter is going to help.

 

[compression]

Maybe, it might be a little harder because you will be building boost at the line bouncing off the studderbox, you just have to part throttle 2 step it. i build about 15-19 psi on my 6k studder.

 

[compression]

and i guess us awd guys better watch out huh

 

[nicknorth11]

my best time of 14.6 @86(missed 4th) and cut a 2.5 60ft time

I don't get why your trap was only 86 mph with a 2.5 60' and a 14.6 1/4. 3rd gear runs to 105 mph, so why did you attempt to shift to 4th? Also, it doesn't seem likely that you would slow down that much by coasting to the 1/4 mile marker once hitting 105 mph, does it? So, pealing out in 1st, maybe pealing out a little in second, and skirting the tires in third still should slow you down that much. I've read your mod list, so I know your car is pretty quick, i'm not doubting that, i'm just really confused on how you pulled off such an odd trap speed and why you even mention shifting into 4th gear.

 

[fourreGsixty3]

nicknorth11 Im not sure about your 3rd gear but I hit stock rev limiter in third at 98mph or so. Maybe if stock rev limiter isn't there, and you rev it past 8k. But I do get your point on what he was doing in 4th gear, I would hold 3rd, until I have to to gain some more speed, that would be at like 5500 rpm in 3rd gear @ 86mph.
PS: Great job guys keep the FWDs going faster everyday, once mine is all finished being built up, Ill hopefully be hitting low 11s with slicks, and a lot of surprises

Dustin

 

[DSMcamaro]

I trap can trap at 104 MPH turning 7200 RPM's in 3rd. I also went for 4th once and missed and still managed a 13.6 @ 97mph but I also had a 2.1 60'. Still didnt make a lot of sence to me though.

 

[killakev805]

I have trapped at 108 in 3rd gear, at no more than 7500rpms, because that is where my rev limiter is set at. I am not sure on the exact rpms I was turning, I wasn't looking at my tach that close, and I wasn't bouncing off the limiter yet.