Wanting More N/T Power [Merged 9-18-09]

[trixtert]

I dont mean to sound like a noob but is the stock aircan the actual air filter or is it the whole peice inside the stock air can. And some of these ebay ones are goin for like 14$ cdn can u really get a short ram for $14

 

[mavisky]

you'll need to keep the can, the filter inside the can, and the sensor with the clips and plug on it.

and yes they're that cheap. i could build one for a couple bucks no problem. all you have to do is know how to weld.

 

[khsdm]

Why make fun out of a cheaper header, then recommend a cheap intake?

well if u buy a cheap header u run a chance of it cracking and not fitting right, if u buy a cheap intake, what could go wrong. not much, cheap headers that aren't made well could cause you trouble from the time u get it to 10k down the road. if u have a tight budget just get a intake. don't regreat buying a crap header

 

[baseballer0688]

I need some advice on how to get more power out of my 1999 Eclipse GS. It has a 2.0L DOHC 4 Cylinder Engine and I haven't had any modifications done to it yet. I would like to have a turbocharged engine but am not sure if its cheaper to buy a turbo kit or swap the engine for a turbocharged one? Or would it be cheaper to just sell the car and buy an eclipse with turbo? Any advice on what kind of upgrades I would need and how much it would cost would be appreciated.

 

[interceptor]

If you can find a GS-T or X in good to fair condition then get it but if ur GS is in better condition than those keep it and do what all of us GS with T have done. as far as mods start of with Under Drive Pulley cause if your gonna go turbo the intake and exhaust that you need to make your N/T fast will be worthless.The rest of the mods you will have to search through the forums on here.Good luck with making your car faster.

 

[ShadowWulf]

www.2gnt.com

 

[miamieclipse]

First off you will not be able to swap the 4g63 engine (engine located in gs-t/gsx) into your car.

Secondly, What interceptor said. If you abosuletly know for a FACT that you will turbo your car then do not bother with mods such as: Cold Air Intake, or a Header. Instead do mods such as an underdrive pulley, cams, cam gears, larger sized throttle body, ported intake manifold, head work etc etc.

Thirdly, it sounds more like you will be purchasing a kit, you can see what hahn offers for our cars at www.hahnracecraft.com, www.overboost.com sells Star kits.....

Good Luck and keep us posted

-Mike

 

[titogs95]

Read this and decide what you want to do.
http://www.dsmtuner.com/tuning-guide/2gnt/

Be honest with yourself and set a goal that match your POCKETS. (Money)
Everything Cost money. Nothing is cheap.

Good luck and Start looking information before you do something with your car.
First is knowledgment them WORK.

Later,

 

[baseballer0688]

What Upgrades or Modifications would have to be done to the car if I were to install a Turbo Kit and about how much would it cost?

 

[miamieclipse]

Theortically no modifications need extra modifications to be done in order for a turbo kit to function properly. But that never works

Before anything you will want to do a Compression Test & a Leak Down Test on your car to make sure it's functioning in tip-top condition. Is the turbo kit something you have the money to purchase right now? You can do some Modificatons such as a underdrive pulley, cam gears (will give no hp until it's tuned, no sense in tuning it as soon as you get them, i would wait until you have your turbo kit installed first) , cams, afc 2 (will give no hp until it's tuned), a Hi-Flow Cat, a Cat-Back Exhaust.

 

[interceptor]

Well depending on which stage of Turbo you get ? You really don't want your Turbo breathing through a straw so get a exhaust for it . I have stage one for Hahn but i got an exhaust so it won't choke up.Besides the Turbo spools alot better and faster cause the more coming in the faster it is being pushed out . I got the A'PEXi GT SPEC CAT. BACK EXHAUST .I payed $700 for it . You can get one custom made like it for a fraction of that price but it will never sound or feel the same.

 

[interceptor]

Well you really do need a missing link cause there is no black box or anything that comes with Hahn .Missing link smoothens vacuum to boost transition

Theortically no modifications need extra modifications to be done in order for a turbo kit to function properly. But that never works

Before anything you will want to do a Compression Test & a Leak Down Test on your car to make sure it's functioning in tip-top condition. Is the turbo kit something you have the money to purchase right now? You can do some Modificatons such as a underdrive pulley, cam gears (will give no hp until it's tuned, no sense in tuning it as soon as you get them, i would wait until you have your turbo kit installed first) , cams, afc 2 (will give no hp until it's tuned), a Hi-Flow Cat, a Cat-Back Exhaust.

 

[GSGoinFast]

i can not believe there isnt a turbo guy in here yet telling you to sell your car

i think you need to do a lot of research, and a lot of forum surfing both here and 2gnt.com before you start modding your car. trust me

 

[Danny_305]

sell your car and buy a gst or gsx (im selling my rs and im buying a gst soon )

 

[interceptor]

Good LUCK hope its in good condition

sell your car and buy a gst or gsx (im selling my rs and im buying a gst soon )

 

[GSGoinFast]

sell your car and buy a gst or gsx (im selling my rs and im buying a gst soon )

your not a turbo guy... your a retard

 

[drk mrk iv]

your not a turbo guy... your a retard

You're a retard

Anyway, I'm a fan of bolt ons for those types of cars. Really learn on this car, and do all of your mods yourself. Don't get carried away, and then later on down the line get a car that is relatively fast (or has a lot of potential), and max that car out.

My .02

 

[miamieclipse]

your not a turbo guy... your a retard

He is in the proccess of selling and buying a turbo car...Even tho he will be slower than me...Go Figure

 

[miamieclipse]

Well you really do need a missing link cause there is no black box or anything that comes with Hahn .Missing link smoothens vacuum to boost transition

Really? I thought it'd come with one....Sorry

 

[Redmachine]

Look at 3 to 5 grand for engine support mods(crank,pistons, cams etc) Then a grand in fuel mods, then 3 grand on the actual turbo kit. This is not including labor(unless you plan on doing it yourself) Or you could go by way of header exhaust CAI, UDP, Throttle body, and a wet shot.

BTW does anyone know if the af/x computer is only for 97's or have they solved that problem yet? IF you can get a programalbe ecu that'd be cool too, stay away from the venom control box

 

[miamieclipse]

To my knowledge its still only for the 97;s....

Red: Our cranks are pretty strong, I have never heard of a 420a crank going down for the count so He would only need forged pistons & rods. He could also replaced the piston rings while he is at it.

 

[Redmachine]

To my knowledge its still only for the 97;s....

Red: Our cranks are pretty strong, I have never heard of a 420a crank going down for the count so He would only need forged pistons & rods. He could also replaced the piston rings while he is at it.

I just figured while he was at it you know just knock the whole rotating assembly out, yeah get new rings and not chrom-moly cause they don't exist in a piston ring

 

[GSGoinFast]

Look at 3 to 5 grand for engine support mods(crank,pistons, cams etc) Then a grand in fuel mods, then 3 grand on the actual turbo kit. This is not including labor(unless you plan on doing it yourself) Or you could go by way of header exhaust CAI, UDP, Throttle body, and a wet shot.

BTW does anyone know if the af/x computer is only for 97's or have they solved that problem yet? IF you can get a programalbe ecu that'd be cool too, stay away from the venom control box

i think your prices are a little inflated...3-5 grand for parts alone? howell bottom end kit, pistons, rods, bearings, oil pump ect.. is only $999. you dont need cams to run a turbo. a grand in fuel mods is a bit pricey too. $100 for a walbro 255lph... $250 for injectors... $250 for a good fpr. theres your fuel mods. kit can only be $2000 if you get a stage one, get a stock smic from a junked turbo eclipse, get some piping and your done. labor will kill you, but installing it yourself, your prices are way too high.

 

[POlarSource]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/tuning-guide/2gnt/

 

[Redmachine]

i think your prices are a little inflated...3-5 grand for parts alone? howell bottom end kit, pistons, rods, bearings, oil pump ect.. is only $999. you dont need cams to run a turbo. a grand in fuel mods is a bit pricey too. $100 for a walbro 255lph... $250 for injectors... $250 for a good fpr. theres your fuel mods. kit can only be $2000 if you get a stage one, get a stock smic from a junked turbo eclipse, get some piping and your done. labor will kill you, but installing it yourself, your prices are way too high.

I don't think I was that off, I was also calculating a forged crank 1200 and new headstuds 399, and since you never reuse engin harware, you got to budget for that, we are up to 3 grand in engine mods, then If he wwanted cams , he probably needs a new water pump.
Dont just budget for the parts budget for the things you MIGHT need during the install, or else the car sits waiting for more cash.