Think Driving Fast is Fun? WARNING! GRAPHIC!

[ramsack]

Then it sounds like you should call and complain to the police a lot, and get your neighborhoods to do so also. If you get cops there to patrol a lot people will stop using it as a thoroughfare to fly through. I might do the same if I had kids. But if I was driving down the highway and someone zoomed on past me I would not try to take the law into my own hands. It's ignorant. Why do you think animals have litters of young? The young may get eaten if it wanders off. Same thing with people, but people tend to normally have 1 kid at a time. Not saying people shouldn't value their kids or anything like that, but this is life. Driving is one of the biggest moral issues and I don't think anyone is wrong or right. If you break the law you will eventually pay. Either with death or by ticket. If they happen to survive and kill innocent people, do you really not think they will be haunted for the rest of their lives? If they aren't haunted, those are the people that get executed or are killed in prison for being THAT horrible of a person.

 

[SpawnedX]

Then it sounds like you should call and complain to the police a lot, and get your neighborhoods to do so also. If you get cops there to patrol a lot people will stop using it as a thoroughfare to fly through. I might do the same if I had kids. But if I was driving down the highway and someone zoomed on past me I would not try to take the law into my own hands. It's ignorant. Why do you think animals have litters of young? The young may get eaten if it wanders off. Same thing with people, but people tend to normally have 1 kid at a time. Not saying people shouldn't value their kids or anything like that, but this is life. Driving is one of the biggest moral issues and I don't think anyone is wrong or right. If you break the law you will eventually pay. Either with death or by ticket. If they happen to survive and kill innocent people, do you really not think they will be haunted for the rest of their lives? If they aren't haunted, those are the people that get executed or are killed in prison for being THAT horrible of a person.

You really have some growing to do. Who cares how haunted they are, the person is still dead. A family is still shattered. You think the family cares that the person is haunted? I think you should go and become a spokesman forr the people in prison for killing someone while speeding. You can go make your arguments to the families of the victims. See how long it takes before you get reemed.

 

[Calan]

Then it sounds like you should call and complain to the police a lot, and get your neighborhoods to do so also. If you get cops there to patrol a lot people will stop using it as a thoroughfare to fly through.

No need... people around here aren't that stupid. I was just saying that if the need ever did arise, I have no problem slowing down an idiot when my (or my neighbor's) kids are at risk.

If they happen to survive and kill innocent people, do you really not think they will be haunted for the rest of their lives? If they aren't haunted, those are the people that get executed or are killed in prison for being THAT horrible of a person.

Dude...judging from several posts of yours in the technical threads, you are obviously fairly intelligent. But you've also admitted that you just like to argue for the hell of it (which is just immature), and now your arguing is starting to sound retarded.

Of COURSE most people would be haunted by something like that. The point is, it should never come to that...which is also the whole point of the video, the posts here about the effects of speed, etc.

 

[King_Milo]

What kind of mother wouldn't put her child in a car seat?? While most of us are intelligent enough to refrain from driving like the people in the video, it should at least serve as a reminder that there are dumb-asses behind the wheel and shit happens. Nice post

 

[XiKeiyaZI]

You know what, screw it.

You know why speeding is so tantalizing?

When you hit 88, your Flux Capaci- xD I can't finish it.

 

[ramsack]

What is the definition of speeding? 5 mph over or 30 mph over? Are you going to fly off the handle as much if someone kills someone and is speeding 5 mph over, or if they are going 30 mph over? You SHOULD deem them the same with your logic. But oh wait. You don't get the same penalty for doing 5 mph over vs. 30 mph over. Neighborhood streets could benefit from having cameras to cite speeders and stop sign runners. There's no excuse for that.

I just feel that anything can happen at any time and you can't blame anyone for it. Everyone dies. Maybe I just look at death different as it doesn't really get to me emotionally. But I'm not gonna stop going the speed I do on the highway for anything. They can take my license, and I will get it back at some point, and I will still speed. I also slow down if I get distracted with something, whether it's a phone call or to change the radio. I won't text while driving anymore. I used to, because phones used to have buttons and you knew what you were typing without looking or focusing on the phone. Those were the good old days.

 

[Dewayne Waldron]

Anyone who drives like a fool deserves whatever they receive. I've had to many friends and family killed because of idiots on the street. I feel for anyone affected by those that don't abide by the law.

 

[Aceman]

This is something that needs to be shown in driver's ed courses. If you laugh, you fail the class. Period. Any snide remarks? Fail. Period. I realize that this is the internet and being heartless and making snide remarks is cool, but driving is real. Human lives are real. Use the 2 second rule, be courteous, don't speed when you're late, don't street race. Its common sense. I am SO tired of being around people who drive like alot of people in these videos. One of the reasons I feel hesitation to go to import car meets is because I know these people will be there. Just yesterday, im working on my car in my driveway and this 300zx floors it past my house. 3-9 year old children live in 3 or 4 houses just on my street in my neighborhood and ride their bikes and play in their front yards and if even one of those children was out...I can not even predict my reaction...

 

[Boomdeeze]

For all that think that this video is fake and doesn't have an effect on you because you only drive fast when its SMART to drive fast. I am in Law Enforcement and you would be shocked with what you see when you pull up to an accident scene. Everyone should be encouraged to watch this and know that even the one time you feel like messing around, it could be the last time..

 

[extremeatheist]

What kind of mother wouldn't put her child in a car seat?? While most of us are intelligent enough to refrain from driving like the people in the video, it should at least serve as a reminder that there are dumb-asses behind the wheel and shit happens. Nice post

You would be amazed how many mothers and fathers just let their small kids literally run around in the back seat. Here you have to have a kid in a proper seat until they are 8 years old and 80 lbs. Just the other day I saw a women holding an INFANT in her lap with a seatbelt around them both. I got the tag number and called the police.

 

[nothingfiction]

the two that got me was the couple that got sandwiched and the douch who tapped the car in front of him, pushing that car to run over someone. That could be you just walking across the street with drivers patiently waiting for you to cross while some a**hole rams them into you. Those people weren't even in another car! and the couple weren't in a car either, they were like a block away. But this stuff does happen.

 

[sag1441]

video is nothing without amy lee

 

[ramsack]

OK. I thought about this post on the drive home from work. I just am thinking to myself how dumb this is. It's not like law enforcement is doing nothing about any of this. Street racing...The cops just don't sit there and be like "oh we'll only ticket you if you crash and hurt people." Speeding...same thing. There are penalties. Another thing too. It is unrealistic to expect any of this to stop completely. Yes it's sad and tragic when something like this happens, but it's NEVER going to stop with humans behind the wheel. This is what gives me a negative opinion of organizations that are against street racing, speeding, or drinking and driving. Their outlooks are totally unrealistic in the way that they think with enough picketing and protesting that bad things will just stop. Well it won't. What more do you expect law enforcement to do?

Street racing. Yes it is stupid and I am against it. I also don't agree that just making a little pull against someone on an open highway is street racing. To me street racing is a subculture. What is law enforcement supposed to do? Pull over every car with a loud exhaust, or that is riced out? That would be profiling, and it never does hold any solid ground for long when law attempts it because it is wrong. So what if these organizations against it had their way? Our hobby would be crushed. Do you really want that hassle any time you drive a modded car on the street, even responsibly?

Speeding. Most of what has been mentioned here about highway speeding sounds to me more like aggressive driving. Idiots who go as fast as they can passing cars. I speed. I don't drive aggressive. I give myself room in front of me, never on people's tails. Now because I am going faster than the law says I should and am going with the flow of traffic (all other people being offendors) you want to group me in with people who cause accidents and kill? That shit doesn't fly with me. That's what is pissing me off about this.

Law enforcement. I see more cops pull people over on the highway during rush hour than any time or other place. They really should be patrolling smaller streets more where kids play. As I said before it would be just as much the kid's fault as it would be the speeder that hit them, but the kid doesn't know better. But still, it is never going to stop.

And lastly, us humans feel the need for some reason to have a cause or be a part of something bigger. I get it. Well these organizations are crap. They are more of support groups for people who lost someone and to get pissed and rally, than a real cause. That may offend some people in this thread, but I don't mean it offensively, that's just how I see it, and I'm not saying it makes you a bad person. This stuff is never going to stop. Law enforcement is not around to abolish things, they are here to minimize it. To expect them to stop things 100%, like drugs, accidents, terrorism, crime, well that's just irrational. Law enforcement even knows it can't completely stop bad things. Bad things happens and it's sad, but I just can't stand bleeding-heart propaganda like that video. Until humans figure out how to become immortal Gods there will always be pain and suffering. No one person has the right to condemn a person to death for a mistake they made. This is why someone who kills someone in an accident will never be publically executed for what they did. It's all about intent. More on profiling. Sure, we could profile people and stop bad things from happening. Stop people of Arab descent from flying and planes wouldn't get blown up, but that's not a functioning society anymore. Technology could also bring us the ability to prosecute people before they commit a crime, just by their thought of doing it. But again, not a functioning society. We would have no freedom to be humans and we might as well just all be dead than to live in a world like that.

 

[Calan]

I just feel that anything can happen at any time and you can't blame anyone for it.

So if some nut job just breaks into your mother's house in the middle of the night and shoots her in the head...it's nobody's fault and shit just happens? Give me a break.

This is something that needs to be shown in driver's ed courses. If you laugh, you fail the class. Period. Any snide remarks? Fail. Period.

Is this not the way it is anymore? When I went through DE (many years ago), we had to watch a film just like this, only 100% real and much more graphic.

Just one more result of our politically correct "don't offend anyone" society.

When you think about it, is it really any wonder that most of the young people nowadays are insensitive to death and have the attitudes shown in this thread? It's not much different than the terrorists that took down the WTC; no respect for life, desensitized to death and tragedy, it's all about their feelings with no regard for others...kind of scary when you think about it isn't it?

...It is unrealistic to expect any of this to stop completely. Yes it's sad and tragic when something like this happens, but it's NEVER going to stop with humans behind the wheel. This is what gives me a negative opinion of organizations that are against street racing, speeding, or drinking and driving. Their outlooks are totally unrealistic in the way that they think with enough picketing and protesting that bad things will just stop. Well it won't. What more do you expect law enforcement to do?

Holy crap. You've completely lost it, or you're the biggest troll on the planet.

It's called awareness. There are a lot of people that really are stupid enough to not understand that not paying attention, speeding, and reckless driving kills people. (and apparently a lot more of them hang out on tuners than I would have guessed).

Nobody expects anything to "stop immediately". Organizations exist and put this stuff out in the hopes that maybe it will reach one or two stupid albeit sane individuals and maybe it will make a difference.

So what if these organizations against it had their way? Our hobby would be crushed. Do you really want that hassle any time you drive a modded car on the street, even responsibly

Are you SERIOUS? If street racing didn't exist, police WOULDN'T hassle every modded car out there. The whole point of not street racing (and why discussing it isn't allowed on this site) is so that we CAN enjoy our hobby without worrying that a group of morons (a subculture as you put it) is going to screw it up for everybody.

 

[Fotowntalon]

This thread cracks me up. I don't know if it's the people arguing against physics and kinetic energy, or the ones that are so sure they are in control of everything out in the streets.

Wow people are still arguing about this. Well I'll put in my final thoughts and then move on because this is really not going anywhere. My arguments got way off topic, we all know that accidents at a higher rate of speed have a higher % chance of fatality. Nothing new there. I was never making a an argument that enthusiasts should speed, just that enthusiasts are normally better drivers than the average driver.

My final thoughts on to speed not to speed and etc, (sorry if you lost somebody and never meant to offend anyone) is that neither side is changing any sides minds. This thread is full of hypothetical and real scenarios and statistics for and against each side.

The REAL POINT is that videos like this are dumb and pointless. They are to incite panic, pull at your heartstrings, and get tons of hits so that the creators can get money. Sure they may make a few people think twice before they engage in some dumb activity, it will probably effect the same amount of people as it will inspire some people to speed and act recklessly to prove how much they hate this video.

Look at what this video has done here, beyond somewhat divide the community and wasting tons of peoples time on rants and debate which hasn't changed one persons mind. This is like discussing religion or politics gotten nowhere. I am sure it reinforced SpawnedX's mind on careful driving, well oh well he was already a practicing driver of that. I am sure I got a laugh at how dumb i thought this video was and done nothing for me. And that's the point. Beyond those few people that will now either think twice or drive more recklessly that i pointed out earlier(which cancel each other out), this video has done nothing to change anything for the better, only ignited the movies popularity (for good or bad) and gotten the creators one step closer to a payday.

Dont believe me? click on the video posted to go to the web page, whats it say? "please drive safe WARNING GRAPHIC VIDEO
Meet Sexy Women in your Area!" <--- No i did not make that up.

 

[SpawnedX]

OK. I thought about this post on the drive home from work. I just am thinking to myself how dumb this is. It's not like law enforcement is doing nothing about any of this. Street racing...The cops just don't sit there and be like "oh we'll only ticket you if you crash and hurt people." Speeding...same thing. There are penalties. Another thing too. It is unrealistic to expect any of this to stop completely. Yes it's sad and tragic when something like this happens, but it's NEVER going to stop with humans behind the wheel. This is what gives me a negative opinion of organizations that are against street racing, speeding, or drinking and driving. Their outlooks are totally unrealistic in the way that they think with enough picketing and protesting that bad things will just stop. Well it won't What more do you expect law enforcement to do?

How are they unrealistic? If they stop one person from doing it, and that person doesn't hit and kill someone, they made a difference.

Street racing. Yes it is stupid and I am against it. I also don't agree that just making a little pull against someone on an open highway is street racing. To me street racing is a subculture. What is law enforcement supposed to do? Pull over every car with a loud exhaust, or that is riced out? That would be profiling, and it never does hold any solid ground for long when law attempts it because it is wrong. So what if these organizations against it had their way? Our hobby would be crushed. Do you really want that hassle any time you drive a modded car on the street, even responsibly?

Racers Against Street Racing, run by SEMA, who runs the SEMA Action Network, who actively fights against unfair laws against performance. Their goal is to save lives not harass you.

Speeding. Most of what has been mentioned here about highway speeding sounds to me more like aggressive driving. Idiots who go as fast as they can passing cars. I speed. I don't drive aggressive. I give myself room in front of me, never on people's tails. Now because I am going faster than the law says I should and am going with the flow of traffic (all other people being offendors) you want to group me in with people who cause accidents and kill? That shit doesn't fly with me. That's what is pissing me off about this.

Every single aggressive person says the exact same things you do. They THINK they are good drivers and capable of sustained driving like this. Because you think you are a good driver, doesn't mean you are.

Law enforcement. I see more cops pull people over on the highway during rush hour than any time or other place. They really should be patrolling smaller streets more where kids play. As I said before it would be just as much the kid's fault as it would be the speeder that hit them, but the kid doesn't know better. But still, it is never going to stop.

Nope it's the speeders fault, had the speeder not been speeding he would have needed less space to slow down and allow that kid to cross safely. The difference between the speeder and the kid? The speeder is breaking the law.

And lastly, us humans feel the need for some reason to have a cause or be a part of something bigger. I get it. Well these organizations are crap. They are more of support groups for people who lost someone and to get pissed and rally, than a real cause. That may offend some people in this thread, but I don't mean it offensively, that's just how I see it, and I'm not saying it makes you a bad person. This stuff is never going to stop. Law enforcement is not around to abolish things, they are here to minimize it. To expect them to stop things 100%, like drugs, accidents, terrorism, crime, well that's just irrational. Law enforcement even knows it can't completely stop bad things. Bad things happens and it's sad, but I just can't stand bleeding-heart propaganda like that video. Until humans figure out how to become immortal Gods there will always be pain and suffering. No one person has the right to condemn a person to death for a mistake they made. This is why someone who kills someone in an accident will never be publically executed for what they did. It's all about intent.

First this video isn't propaganda. It offers no facts. It asks you to drive safely by showing you what can happen if you don't. So before you start labeling things you need to actually be educated on them. Propaganda is providing selective facts to influence a community. A video illiciting emotion cannot be called propaganda.

None of these organizations think they can make a 100% difference, 1 life saved is a campaign worth it's cost.

A mistake is not a willful disregard for the law. When you are speeding you are maliciously breaking the law. It will never be called a mistake. The person is never sorry for the actual crime, they are just sorry for the result.

You can keep speeding, just remember this, this forum is a public forum. Everything you post here is subject to be used against you. So whether it is likely or not, if you go out tonight and get in an accident, kill someone and are going to be prosecuted, all your words and beliefs here can be used against you.

So best of luck to someone who has to defend their position when you blatantly admit to negligence and recklessness.

 

[ramsack]

So if some nut job just breaks into your mother's house in the middle of the night and shoots her in the head...it's nobody's fault and shit just happens? Give me a break.

Haha ok you got me there. I did word it wrong. What I mean by all of this is that you cannot expect it to ever stop. And the terrorists that took down the WTC, they had an agenda. They were probably praying to their religious figure right beforehand for forgiveness in what they were doing. It is not right at all I agree, but again, it can't be stopped. If you want the government to take over every aspect of our lives and sit in our cars with us and shoot us if we speed, or babysit us all the time and slap us on the wrists if we do something wrong, than that's what I have a problem with, and that's the kind of agenda propaganda like this supports. Not a world I want to live in.

Driver's ed anymore is a joke, and you don't have to pass it to get a license. You simply have to pass a written test to get a permit, and then a driving test to get a license, in PA that is. You can educate all you want about what can happen if you do something, but we're all human, we all make mistakes, and people's lives sometimes end because of it. But really, how do you expect to stop it?

 

[Calan]

Beyond those few people that will now either think twice or drive more recklessly that i pointed out earlier(which cancel each other out), this video has done nothing to change anything for the better...

If one of those few people that think twice is the one driving through town when my son isn't paying attention and does something silly (like all kids do), then it served it's purpose. I would say that's a change for the better. And anyone that drives more recklessly after seeing that video has mental issues and would (will) find many ways of screwing up someone's life regardless.

Maybe some moron (possibly even someone on this site) saw that video, and instead of getting plowed and running you and your G/F (or parents, kids, etc) down someday, he's the one that now acts a little more mature and saves your life. Still think the video is useless under those circumstances?

 

[SpawnedX]

Haha ok you got me there. I did word it wrong. What I mean by all of this is that you cannot expect it to ever stop. And the terrorists that took down the WTC, they had an agenda. They were probably praying to their religious figure right beforehand for forgiveness in what they were doing. It is not right at all I agree, but again, it can't be stopped. If you want the government to take over every aspect of our lives and sit in our cars with us and shoot us if we speed, or babysit us all the time and slap us on the wrists if we do something wrong, than that's what I have a problem with, and that's the kind of agenda propaganda like this supports. Not a world I want to live in.

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

The propaganda didn't cause the situation you are pissed off about. The people who partook and partake in it did. Their speeding, cockiness and negligence during these events and outside of them brought the national attention to the hobby. Had their not been so many accidents in which young, innocent lives were lost, than we wouldn't be harassed. We wouldn't have to push the clutch in to quiet the exhaust, or be subject to random vehicle component inspections whenever the police feel like it.

The reason our cars get this negative attention is not because of propaganda (because propaganda doesn't randomly exist, it is spawned from actual events that enrage people), it is because all of these speeding and street racing morons all happened to be driving sport compacts in so many instances with aftermarket parts and decals.

The major flaw in your argument? I drive a car just like you. I even have so much more done to it than you. I am probably targeted more than you. Yet I want people to stop the original action that got the negative attention, before I bother responding to the propaganda created because of it.

 

[ramsack]

Watch some old propaganda films about drugs from the 60's and show me where they list facts Those marijuana commercials with kids melting into couches or doing other stupid shit, what facts do they offer?

You are so diluted in the fact that you think I am an aggressive driver because I speed. I will never kill someone doing so because I am not doing it blatantly. As I have said all throughout this thread I do not drive aggressively. I go with the flow of speeding traffic. I drive with the responsibility that other people's lives are in my hands and I could kill if I make a mistake. I really don't care what you think about how I drive. You've never met me, or been in the car with me, or been on the roads I drive on to work. So stop judging me. If you feel so strongly about me going 75 in a 55 you can do something about it. You know how to drive or buy a plane ticket.

I don't drive fast, I don't drive cocky, I just go at an appropriate speed. Why is this so hard to understand? I am sick of all the negative attention too that I don't even try to be quiet around cops, because I have nothing to hide. On the way to work I go past cops at my 75-80 mph in a 55 and they don't even look twice, even if I happen to be passing someone doing maybe 65.

 

[SpawnedX]

You don't do it blatantly...let's see what the definition of blatant is...

bla·tant/&#712;bl&#257;tnt/Adjective1. (of bad behavior) Done openly and unashamedly.

 

[Calan]

You're digging a pretty deep hole here ramsack.

 

[ramsack]

It's blatant if everyone is going 55 and I am driving like an asshole. If everyone chooses to do 55 for some stupid reason I'm not flipping out in my car riding people's asses or looking for spots to pass them. If it's blatant that I go with the flow of traffic then I would have a lot of tickets

 

[SpawnedX]

It's blatant if everyone is going 55 and I am driving like an asshole. If everyone chooses to do 55 for some stupid reason I'm not flipping out in my car riding people's asses or looking for spots to pass them. If it's blatant that I go with the flow of traffic then I would have a lot of tickets

The flow of traffic has already been addressed. Is there like the grasping of straws?

 

[ramsack]

You're digging a pretty deep hole here ramsack.

That's just because I feel strongly about people trying to tell me what to do when they don't even know me as a person, just as a message boad persona. I invite anyone who feels what I am doing as wrong to come to where I live and sit it on the way to my job. I would change their mind about me and I know it.