The 14b Drag Race Discussion Thread

[1qkfwd]

Congrats on breaking the 11sec barrier Jose. Especially on street tires. Took me slicks to cut those times . Better update your signature now.

 

[9!'clipseDOHC]

Huge Congrats Jose!!! Really wish I could have been there!

 

[SBstar]

There will be no chop busting here Jose. Those are some sick 60's for any street tires, much less something on 18's! The list of 11 second 14b cars is short, and the list for those on street tires is way short, good job man. I'm sad to hear about your health, get well man.

Just for clarification did you only get the two passes in?

You really need to start your own thread too, you deserve the recognition outside the 14b thread too! Especially since alot of guys recognize your name from "back in the day".

 

[ArcticTsi]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shook the cobwebs off QUICK!

Congrats!

Came back real quick, . Once you get up to the burn out pit, its pretty much instinct. But I had been at this track about two years prior with Nathan. When I first got back to the states. Even though I knew my car was in a poor state(due to the ecu I would later find out) just wanted to have some fun for old times sake. Still managed to get 13.4 with the car dropping 2 cylinders periodically.

Nice! Welcome to the club.

Thanks Nate, bout time for me.

Congrats on breaking the 11sec barrier Jose. Especially on street tires. Took me slicks to cut those times . Better update your signature now.

thanks man, not chasing any records, but just finishing what I didnt 9 years ago.

Huge Congrats Jose!!! Really wish I could have been there!

Same here, at least then there would have been two imports. It was Mustang & Firebird night for sure.

There will be no chop busting here Jose. Those are some sick 60's for any street tires, much less something on 18's! The list of 11 second 14b cars is short, and the list for those on street tires is way short, good job man. I'm sad to hear about your health, get well man.

Just for clarification did you only get the two passes in?

You really need to start your own thread too, you deserve the recognition outside the 14b thread too! Especially since alot of guys recognize your name from "back in the day".

People always e-mail me with "it cannot be done" and a bunch of other negative garbage. As far as a thread I dont need it. I started one back in the day when I went 12.1. Plus prior to that I was making frequent updates in the forum on my progress at the local 1/8th track I had nearby. That is where I was putting in the work and perfecting my technique. So since then nothing has changed on my mod list other than a 3KVR4 fuel pump and assembly to replace my stocker that crapped out. The biggest thing that has changed since is the 300+ lbs of weight reduction. Yup only two passes I got. It was taking an hour and a half to get through to another pass. They would let a wave of street cars go. Then the 10.5s, then a couple funny cars they had there and some dragsters. Then they would spend however long prepping the track again after ther street cars.

 

[Phil1320]

Well, it's great to see another 14b car in the 11's, glad you hit it Jose, and in only two passes! Hopefully you'll get another shot at it soon. I hope whatever you are dealing with medically sees itself through. Don't be a stranger!

And, Justin, good luck this weekend at snapping that 11.0 wall in half! Seems like you've got a few new additions to help the effort. I'll be at the track too, but, turning corners, in Archer Racing Talon #34.

 

[1SloEvo]

Good luck to Justin in the straight line...and Phil doing some carving! Glad to see the DSM being represented in different motorsports!

 

[LandSpeed-DSM]

Well, it's great to see another 14b car in the 11's, glad you hit it Jose, and in only two passes! Hopefully you'll get another shot at it soon. I hope whatever you are dealing with medically sees itself through. Don't be a stranger!

And, Justin, good luck this weekend at snapping that 11.0 wall in half! Seems like you've got a few new additions to help the effort. I'll be at the track too, but, turning corners, in Archer Racing Talon #34.

Any chance you'll be taking some video?

 

[Steve93Talon]

Just got back from the track, 2:45am. What a long a$$ drive.

11.88 @ 112

Will throw up the slip whenever I get up.

Quick question, your old time of 12.17 @ 111.94 - There's a time on dsmtimes.org listed under Tommy Watkins that's identical. Is this the same car by any chance? I threw together a list to see where my previous AWD time and my current FWD time fall and I want to rule out any duplicates of the same car/driver.

DSMTimes.org - Home

Edit - Here's the list in case anyone else is interested in seeing where they stand. Feel free to chime in if I missed anyone. I pulled everything I could find from this thread, dsmtimes, this forum's 1/4 mile times list, etc. I tried to remove any 3KGTs, nitrous times, etc.

1. Joe Bucci 10.876 123.83 FWD
2. Justin Aichele 11.03 125.5 FWD
3. Nate Crisman 11.377 116.63 AWD (auto)
4. Phil Beers 11.497 113.85 AWD
5. David Womer 11.514 118.13 AWD
6. Shane Webster 11.541 116.38 AWD
7. Leon Reitman 11.642 116.56 AWD
8. Nick Carleton 11.767 115.93 AWD
9. Aaron Sadorf 11.76 113.37 FWD
10. Lucas English 11.7X XXX.X AWD (auto?)
11. TealTalon 11.815 116.330 FWD
12. Mike Knott 11.839 117.78 FWD
13. Jonathan Isak 11.877 118.97 FWD
14. Jose (Arctic Tsi) 11.8815 112.64 AWD
15. Rob Harfman 11.938 119.41 FWD
16. Dan Loncher 12.084 122.10 FWD
17. Adam Garberg 12.102 112.58 AWD
18. Steve Strzempek 12.12 112.1 AWD (My previous car/setup)
19. Jordan Young 12.180 111.45 AWD
20. Stefan 12.229 102.35 AWD auto (PhillyDSM local Scapaldo)
21. IHateDSMs 12.26 111.23 AWD
22. Aaron Wilson 12.270 112.16 FWD
23. black92 tsi awd 12.270 111.10 AWD
24. Chris Lange 12.274 111.08 AWD
25. Brian Swanson 12.339 110.06 AWD
26. Joe Shuler 12.370 110.03 AWD
27. Colin Wadsworth 12.373 109.36 AWD (Sleepyvr4)
28. William Keim 12.382 109.37 AWD (PhillyDSM Local RIP)
29. Greg Horn 12.400 110.00 AWD
30. Mathieu Haman 12.445 110.93 AWD
31. Jason O'Donnell 12.448 111.14 AWD
32. Alex Chromy 12.465 109.67 AWD
33. Steve Strzempek 12.477 114.88 FWD

 

[SBstar]

It becomes extremely difficult once you get into anyone not in the 11's. I know Mr. Peepers "Matt" ran a 12.0? at one point. I know another personal friend who ran a 12.2 a long time ago. Too many folks ran quicker setups later so their 14b entries were erased.

 

[ArcticTsi]

Well, it's great to see another 14b car in the 11's, glad you hit it Jose, and in only two passes! Hopefully you'll get another shot at it soon. I hope whatever you are dealing with medically sees itself through. Don't be a stranger!

Thanks Phil. Looking forward to the future when I can devote some quality time to the car.

Quick question, your old time of 12.17 @ 111.94 - There's a time on dsmtimes.org listed under Tommy Watkins that's identical. Is this the same car by any chance?

That is my old time. If you look at my profile you will see the link to my slip and a vid of that run. Somewhere along the way my name and this Tommy Watkins got transposed. I wrote them about it several times, but they never fixed it. So that old time can come off the list.

 

[Nate Crisman]

It becomes extremely difficult once you get into anyone not in the 11's. I know Mr. Peepers "Matt" ran a 12.0? at one point. I know another personal friend who ran a 12.2 a long time ago. Too many folks ran quicker setups later so their 14b entries were erased.

Look on the gvr4 list too. I went 12.0 in the "box car" 4dr with the 14b. I'll look for slips.

 

[Phil1320]

Any chance you'll be taking some video?

Yes.....I have some gopro and shorter exterior vids from March 30, which was my first time out with it. At some point here I'll start a thread about it in the Road Race Forum

 

[SBstar]

Look on the gvr4 list too. I went 12.0 in the "box car" 4dr with the 14b. I'll look for slips.

My point exactly, and I should've remembered that! I'm pretty sure the list of those in the 11's is pretty easy to compile, but there have been alot of guys in the low 12's.

Good luck Justin, can't wait for the updates. Looking forward to a new PB at least for that track, 10's would be awesome.

 

[Phil1320]

Thanks Phil. Looking forward to the future when I can devote some quality time to the car.

Anytime. It will happen. What you are involved in must take priority. The Talon will always be there for that time. As you've shown, spend a little time, get a nice reward(11seconds,) life is good...

 

[1qkfwd]

Good luck this weekend Phil. I know you'll have a blast this weekend. I wanna see a bunch of pics and some vids come Monday.

Thanks guys! I load up tonight and looking forward to tomorrow. I'll keep you guys updated somehow.

 

[ArcticTsi]

Good luck this weekend Phil. I know you'll have a blast this weekend. I wanna see a bunch of pics and some vids come Monday.

Thanks guys! I load up tonight and looking forward to tomorrow. I'll keep you guys updated somehow.

Good Luck!

 

[Phil1320]

Good luck to Justin in the straight line...and Phil doing some carving! Glad to see the DSM being represented in different motorsports!

Thanks btw! It was a good day.....details soon in RR forum.

Where's the update Justin???

Good luck this weekend Phil. I know you'll have a blast this weekend. I wanna see a bunch of pics and some vids come Monday.

Thanks guys! I load up tonight and looking forward to tomorrow. I'll keep you guys updated somehow.

And thanks as well! I had a blast, learned a few new things, found a little more speed. All I can ask for.

Now, what became of your day?

Good Luck!

Much appreciated! I know you like the roadcourse as well!

 

[1qkfwd]

Thanks btw! It was a good day.....details soon in RR forum.

Where's the update Justin???

I'll have them when I get to a computer. Lots of stuff to type up. No 10s but lots of runs, broken axle, and 3 new personal best. All with the DA being 1000ft more than last time. So it was 6200-6600 ft all day and temp between 71-76 degrees. I'll update my build thread.

This car for what it is, all I can say its a monster. I'm learning new things and this thing will destroy the 14b record when I get the setup corrected.

 

[9!'clipseDOHC]

Why must you only give us a little teaser and then make us wait? Lol! Good to hear Justin! Won't be much longer til that record falls!

 

[Phil1320]

I'll have them when I get to a computer. Lots of stuff to type up. No 10s but lots of runs, broken axle, and 3 new personal best. All with the DA being 1000ft more than last time. So it was 6200-6600 ft all day and temp between 71-76 degrees. I'll update my build thread.

This car for what it is, all I can say its a monster. I'm learning new things and this thing will destroy the 14b record when I get the setup corrected.

Eventful day then.

No doubt it will.

However, you won't be able to say it was easy.

At this point, if you want the record this year, I'd say another trip to the same track is probably a waste.

I say just get down to sea level and lay it to rest. But, that's my thought. All the DA altitude stuff is pretty irrelevant because it's down to what the time slip says in the end.

 

[1qkfwd]

Why must you only give us a little teaser and then make us wait? Lol! Good to hear Justin! Won't be much longer til that record falls!

It was a long day and way to much typing to do on my phone. I'll get to is very soon.

Eventful day then.

No doubt it will.

However, you won't be able to say it was easy.

At this point, if you want the record this year, I'd say another trip to the same track is probably a waste.

I say just get down to sea level and lay it to rest. But, that's my thought. All the DA altitude stuff is pretty irrelevant because it's down to what the time slip says in the end.

The anxiety of knowing the car will break the record getting to you??

I'm in no hurry to get that record. Every trip to the track has been a positive move forward. High or low elevation it doesn't matter. So it really hadn't been a waste. I'm not just running to chase a record. I'm out to perfect my setup.

After this weekend I have a lot of things to address on the car. You bet I'll be running again at the local track. Your doubt Phil motivates me even more to show you this car will run at least a 10.87 at my local high elevation track.

 

[Phil1320]

It was a long day and way to much typing to do on my phone. I'll get to is very soon.



The anxiety of knowing the car will break the record getting to you??

I'm in no hurry to get that record. Every trip to the track has been a positive move forward. High or low elevation it doesn't matter. So it really hadn't been a waste. I'm not just running to chase a record. I'm out to perfect my setup.

After this weekend I have a lot of things to address on the car. You bet I'll be running again at the local track. Your doubt Phil motivates me even more to show you this car will run at least a 10.87 at my local high elevation track.

This is funny

Anxiety? Hardly.

I was already a 14b record holder, before Joe Bucci, and a long time before you were around, 12 years ago. No anxiety then, no anxiety now. But, I WAS the record holder.

Currently, your 2nd quickest, but, not a record holder, period.


Let me remind you:

''92 GST Stealing 14b record build''

&

And ^ ''I'm not just running to chase a record''

Contradiction...hmmmm.

Also, I don't have any doubt about anything. To think you can't hit 10.86 while you're currently at 11.0....

In the end, I don't care about anything but the ET printed on a timeslip. All the other variables don't mean a thing.

this thing will destroy the 14b record when I get the setup corrected.

Getting the set up right is *part* of chasing the record, but, after this statement, for you to say it's your main focus .... I think not.

 

[1qkfwd]

This is funny

Anxiety? Hardly.

I was already a 14b record holder, before Joe Bucci, and a long time before you were around, 12 years ago. No anxiety then, no anxiety now. But, I WAS the record holder.

Currently, your 2nd quickest, but, not a record holder, period.


Let me remind you:

''92 GST Stealing 14b record build''

&

And ^ ''I'm not just running to chase a record''

Contradiction...hmmmm.

Also, I don't have any doubt about anything. To think you can't hit 10.86 while you're currently at 11.0....

In the end, I don't care about anything but the ET printed on a timeslip. All the other variables don't mean a thing.



Getting the set up right is *part* of chasing the record, but, after this statement, for you to say it's your main focus .... I think not.

*sarcasm* I totally forgot that you held or had anything to do with the record.
Seems like your taking what I say a bit personal this morning.

I am building to steal the record. I didnt run yesterday with any intentions of breaking the record or getting close to the record. I was running to perfect what I have. And I did. I made some big steps forward.

I dont think that any time I go to the track is wasted. I go because its fun and its good to get the seat time and experience. I have a lot of that so yes right now I need to focus on perfecting the car. Getting my shift points down, getting the 60' times down, collecting data and making changes to the car. All stuff im doing. I know what the car will do. Time slip does tell the outcome. Aside what the slips say now this car is more than you expect it to be.

Is the perfect setup not the setup to destroy the current 14B record???

 

[CrackedDSM]

Keep up the good work Justin!

 

[Kevin Jewer]

This is funny

Anxiety? Hardly.

I was already a 14b record holder, before Joe Bucci, and a long time before you were around, 12 years ago. No anxiety then, no anxiety now. But, I WAS the record holder.

Currently, your 2nd quickest, but, not a record holder, period.

LMFAO. "Was" is the operative word there. Someone else "was" the record holder 10 years before you running high 14s. You were the record holder, but Justin's gone quite a bit quicker than you did. Period. You said yourself the timeslip is all that matters.