t04b(v-trim) Bolt on Discussion

[1029TSG]

Good point, we decided to increase the diameter of the carbon fiber at the outlet to allow for your silicon hose to slide underneath and clamp to its original location. This will also hide the clamp for a cleaner look.

 

[green92gsx]

Good point, we decided to increase the diameter of the carbon fiber at the outlet to allow for your silicon hose to slide underneath and clamp to its original location. This will also hide the clamp for a cleaner look.

That would be a cleaner look. I'm just curious how would you tighten the clamp if the carbon fiber is flared around it?

 

[1029TSG]

There will be an open area in the back to accomodate any style clamp.

 

[ItsStockOfficer]

Honestly, I have been getting email responses about this subject for like 6 months, can't it just DIE?

 

[ItsStockOfficer]

Oh, and covering your compressor housing in carbon fiber is a fantastic way to dissipate heat. Not to mention most compressor covers only clear our main water pipe by a mm neways.

 

[1029TSG]

Its your intercooler's job to dissipate heat. We chose the T04B cover so it wouldn't hit the water pipe.

 

[ItsStockOfficer]

Its your intercooler's job to dissipate heat. We chose the T04B cover so it wouldn't hit the water pipe.

In that case Ill just run the 14b at 30 psi and let the IC take care of it. Adabiatic effciency what?

 

[redrkt]

Honestly, I have been getting email responses about this subject for like 6 months, can't it just DIE?

If your tired of getting these emails about this thread all the time you can click here and then you won't get them anymore.

 

[doug]

What?

It looks to me like a completely useless ricer mod. I like your turbine housings, but this just seems silly. Sorry for sounding like an asshat, but I just don't see the point.

 

[Black95TSIawd]

It looks to me like a completely useless ricer mod. I like your turbine housings, but this just seems silly. Sorry for sounding like an asshat, but I just don't see the point.

although i agree with you, i guarantee lots of peeps will buy it.

 

[1029TSG]

Well, of course you have to like carbon fiber to want to buy this. Its simply the only reason for making it and thanks for any input.

 

[turbo98eclipse]

hey i jus read this wholleee post like 4 times...im lookin to get a tubro..lookin for mid 12's mid low 13's...i was lookin to get the T04B v-trim...but then i was readin about the 20g...both of them seem capable of doin this but im not sure which 1 would b better. sounds like the 20g would have more potential in the end, but i dont wanna get the 20g if its gonna have sig. slower spool up time then the to4b... basically im just lookin for the turbo thatll get me to 12's the most reasonably w/ fast spool up time..

 

[prostreetdsmx1]

i dont wanna get the 20g if its gonna have sig. slower spool up time then the to4b... basically im just lookin for the turbo thatll get me to 12's the most reasonably w/ fast spool up time..

The T04b will spool quicker than a 20G. Its been our experience that the t04b is a great turbo for anyone looking for around 350+whp. For the money its hard to beat and when you compare the spool characteristics to the 20g it makes the decision a pretty easy one.

 

[GSXtsy]

I have a question for 1029TSG. Why is the internal wastegate option so expensive? I understand that different companies have different costs, but it is 3 times the price simular comapies sell the same option for (PTE for example).
Your turbos are priced great, but with all the added cost of the wastegate, it bring the price back up to not that special anymore.

Is the wastegate you sell better then others on the market, or do you just charge that much more?

 

[rsunahar]

The T04b will spool quicker than a 20G. Its been our experience that the t04b is a great turbo for anyone looking for around 350+whp. For the money its hard to beat and when you compare the spool characteristics to the 20g it makes the decision a pretty easy one.

Does it outflow a td0620g?

 

[1029TSG]

I'm glad you brought that up, that is a question I often answer. Our internal wastegate is a 38mm or 1.5 inch. It is an investment cast piece and all stainless steel, most of the competition uses a stamped steel. Our lever is splined, not welded so adjustments can be made by the end user. Our actuator is available in 2 different spring ratings and the rod is also threaded so that boost can be easily adjusted even if you dont have a boost controller. Our actuator is also bolted, not welded, to a sloted bracket so that if any additional "clocking" of the turbo is necessary the actuator rod will remain straight. Our actuators are also dipped to prevent corrosion. These advantages add to the overall cost of our internal option as well as the labor to assemble the wastegate and actuator. We are currently finding ways to reduce the cost of our internal set up and we will certainly pass the savings on the customer in the near future.

 

[1029TSG]

The only difference between a TD05 and a TD06 20g is the turbine wheel. Since flow rates are based on the compressor wheel then the T04B would still be rated higher.

 

[sweet97]

I have a question for 1029TSG. Why is the internal wastegate option so expensive? I understand that different companies have different costs, but it is 3 times the price simular comapies sell the same option for (PTE for example).
Your turbos are priced great, but with all the added cost of the wastegate, it bring the price back up to not that special anymore.

Is the wastegate you sell better then others on the market, or do you just charge that much more?

I believe it's called ..... I have a AGP 50 trim which i believe has it's turbine housing from bullseye or they both use the same supplier for the turbine. Great housing. however it's advertised as having a 38mm internal gate or 38mm flapper. True. Though the wastegate hole itself is probably less than an inch or 25mm. Which sounds better, 25mm or 38m? How about selling the turbo's for $25. less than the lowest price of any competitor with similar options, not exact. www.dejontool.com sells a garrett 50 trim wih a great price internal gate included with the best price I've seen for oil lines also. bullseye doe not sell a 50 trim so no competition here. Don't get me wrong, I like bullseye and have done some business with them and will do more. You just need to shop around and compare prices with ALL of the options you require. Mark

 

[1029TSG]

Actually, the hole is drilled to 1.40 inch or 35.5 mm to be exact. We do supply AGP with their turbine housings. These are cast and machined in house, Bullseye is the manufacturer. I dont sell the 50 trims since we are not in the business of directly competing with our own distributors. The 50 trim is a 49 lb/min wheel, we offer two T04B combinations that are rated at 48 and 50 lbs/min. I offer a $50 discount off our regular price to DSM tuner members, am I still not being competitive?

 

[sweet97]

Well it's possible my eyes deeived me looking at the size of the wastegatehole. mine did not look anywhere near 35mm. I am not about to pull it to measure it! I never said bullseye was not competitive. When all of the options a particular buyer adds on then they can determine whether you are offering a competitive price. Your sales volume would speak for itself and and opinions are just that, not fact. It does seem that the internal gate is a popular option and it would not surprise me if most prduction and sales are internal gates so the original question the writer of the question on the cost of the bullseye internal gate still stands. I got my RS49 with internal gate, 90* elbow welded on and all oil lines for $823. plus shipping. Not bad. The turbine is the most impressive component of the turbo, it's downright beefy and cast very smooth! This pst is on it's 11th page so something is going well. Good luck to 1029 and bullseye! mark

 

[mister2sw20]

ok plain and simple question for me....i want 400awhp which turbo would take me there. Also id like to have alittle playing room left to maybe make a little more hp.
My car already has supporting mods and makes 290awhp untuned

 

[sweet97]

Well the TO4b is rated between 300-450HP. The 450HP would be under ideal conditions. the TO4b-H3 is rated from 350-500HP which would allow the 400HP goal easier to meet and give you the room to grow you would like.
This is an opinion of a fairly new DSM owner. Let's see what the more knowledgeable have to say! mark

 

[chubb]

Well it's possible my eyes deeived me looking at the size of the wastegatehole. mine did not look anywhere near 35mm. I am not about to pull it to measure it! I never said bullseye was not competitive. When all of the options a particular buyer adds on then they can determine whether you are offering a competitive price. Your sales volume would speak for itself and and opinions are just that, not fact. It does seem that the internal gate is a popular option and it would not surprise me if most prduction and sales are internal gates so the original question the writer of the question on the cost of the bullseye internal gate still stands. I got my RS49 with internal gate, 90* elbow welded on and all oil lines for $823. plus shipping. Not bad. The turbine is the most impressive component of the turbo, it's downright beefy and cast very smooth! This pst is on it's 11th page so something is going well. Good luck to 1029 and bullseye! mark

how did you get rs49 with oil lines for $823?..i guess you have hook up ...but they sell just turbo for around $850 last time I checked...and $100 for internally gated and $100 more for oil lines...that would be $1050 all together plus shipping...btw do they come with 360 tb?
to 1029:
can you make me an scm t3/t4e 50trim turbo with internally gated? or should I just get it from agp? i was gonna go with hx35 but its little too big for me...I was thinking h-3 to4b...im looking for good street turbo..pump gas..

 

[Dennis_McCain]

how did you get rs49 with oil lines for $823?..i guess you have hook up ...but they sell just turbo for around $850 last time I checked...and $100 for internally gated and $100 more for oil lines...that would be $1050 all together plus shipping...btw do they come with 360 tb?
to 1029:
can you make me an scm t3/t4e 50trim turbo with internally gated? or should I just get it from agp? i was gonna go with hx35 but its little too big for me...I was thinking h-3 to4b...im looking for good street turbo..pump gas..

Just had to jump in...I am now running the T04B-H3, it is extremely street-a-ble on pump gas!.... I am very happy with mine!

 

[1029TSG]

I wont compete directly with any of my distributors, so to copy one of AGP's combinations would be out of the question. If a 50-trim is a must have, please purchase it from Ben at AGP and you'll still receive one our custom cast housings. Thanks.